The GOP in Meltdown

**Butterfly** · 06-08-2009, 05:15 PM

^ it's not pretty when the replicans are being exposed, and in good cowardice, they will take cover under another disguise

**Rattanaburi** · 06-08-2009, 08:54 PM

just a little right and left harmony on one subject that I stumbled upon on the net...

**S Landreth** · 08-08-2009, 02:11 AM

The scene on Thursday afternoon was fitting for the historic occasion: A group of Colombians, Nicaraguans and Cubans meeting at a Peruvian restaurant in Miami to toast a Puerto Rican woman's ascent to the highest court in the land.

``We did it!'' shouted Nubia Rodriguez over the cheers of a dozen others who celebrated the Senate confirmation of federal appellate court judge Sonia Sotomayor to a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court.

The diversity of Latinos at the Sabor a Peru restaurant on Biscayne Boulevard illustrates the pride Sotomayor's appointment represented to not just Puerto Ricans but to the nation's 45 million Hispanics.

snip

A new generation of young women will have the judge as a role model of what you can accomplish if you stay honest and work hard,'' Torres said.

Also a new generation of Hispanic voters will be looking how the Repubs voted (for or against Sotomayor). Some of those Republican Senators are digging their own grave (hell the entire party is digging their own grave).

Link: http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/1175178.html

**Jet Gorgon** · 08-08-2009, 02:39 AM

^ I think it is sad that in this age of "looking past race", it is more and more about race. Anyone who voted against Soto did so for good reason (and I saw many reasons to vote against her), rather than going for the race/gender vote.
I look forward to the day when a white person wins a seat in a minority neighbourhood solely on his/her credentials.

**S Landreth** · 08-08-2009, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I look forward to the day when a white person wins a seat in a minority neighbourhood solely on his/her credentials.

Not that likely to happen where I come from (Miami). It is a pity.

**sabang** · 09-08-2009, 11:25 AM

The GOP in Meltdown? I started this thread about six months ago, just after the election- and a fair bit has happened since then. For a start, the Dem's majority has become even bigger in Congress. And the Meltdown has happened- the GOP now resembles nothing more than primeval sludge. For shame.

We always knew the GOP contained an element that could be termed the 'Rabid Right' (or 'the Loonies' under Bush snr), and that in turn this contained an element who were potentially dangerous, lowbrow thugs. But just an element- just like a small element of the Dem's are rather close to the wacky end of the Left. Such cabals were safely contained within the broader party, not a major concern. Not any more.

Where or what is the voice of the GOP now? None from the political party itself, as best I can tell- apart from Obstructionism, Opposition for the sake of it. From the media, it's the likes of Glen Beck (ffs), blowhard Limbaugh, Coulter. Populist dunderheads. Incitements to protest, to shout down rational debate. Conspiracy theories, disinformation, panicmongering, barely veiled racism and xenophobia.

Where is the voice of reason in the GOP? Where is the Leadership, the Responsibility, from the Politicians? That it should come to this. For shame. The intellectual vaccuum, the total lack of credible opposition that is the current Republican Party has turned the US political process into a farce, a sham. To think that this could happen in a country like the USA. For shame.

Just a snippet from a larger NYT editorial, but this makes really sad reading:-

Belligerence is the currency of the intellectually bankrupt.

Trapped in their vacuum of ideas, too many Republicans continue to display an astounding ability to believe utter nonsense, even when faced with facts that contradict it.

A Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll released last Friday found that 28 percent of Republicans don’t believe that Barack Obama was born in the United States and another 30 percent are still “not sure.” That’s nearly 6 out of 10 Republicans refusing to accept a basic truth. Then again, this shouldn’t surprise me. According to a Gallup poll released last summer, 6 in 10 Republicans also said they thought that humans were created, in their present form, 10,000 years ago.

Let’s face it: This is no party of Einsteins. Really, it isn’t. A Pew poll last month found that only 6 percent of scientists said that they were Republicans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/op...w.html?_r=1&em

The Op Ed (written by a black man, for the benefit of the rabids) concludes with a comment on the Healthcare reform, umm, 'debate'-

"Democrats should be leading this discussion. Instead, they’re losing control of it. That’s unfortunate because the debate is too important to be hijacked by hooligans."

Hijacked by Hooligans- that encapsulates the current state of the US political process. How sad.

**Jet Gorgon** · 10-08-2009, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/op...w.html?_r=1&em

The Op Ed (written by a black man, for the benefit of the rabids) concludes with a comment on the Healthcare reform, umm, 'debate'-

"Democrats should be leading this discussion. Instead, they’re losing control of it. That’s unfortunate because the debate is too important to be hijacked by hooligans."

Hijacked by Hooligans- that encapsulates the current state of the US political process. How sad.

That is sad. I've never heard the right-wingers spew slurs like that. What are the anti-health refom folks? Astro turf, angry mob, swastika wearers...

**S Landreth** · 19-08-2009, 07:35 AM

Interesting,............

The Republican Party Is Turning Into A Cult

Something strange has happened in America in the nine months since Barack Obama was elected. It has best been summarized by the comedian Bill Maher: "The Democrats have moved to the right, and the Republicans have moved to a mental hospital."

The election of Obama -- a center-left black man -- as a successor to George W. Bush has scrambled the core American right's view of their country. In their gut, they saw the US as a white-skinned, right-wing nation forever shaped like Sarah Palin. When this image was repudiated by a majority of Americans in a massive landslide, it simply didn't compute. How could this have happened? How could the cry of "Drill, baby, drill" have been beaten by a supposedly big government black guy? So a streak that has always been there in the American right's world-view -- to deny reality, and argue against a demonic phantasm of their own creation -- has swollen. Now it is all they can see.

(Big snip)

How do they train themselves to be so impervious to reality? It begins, I suspect, with religion. They are taught from a young age that it is good to have "faith" -- which is, by definition, a belief without any evidence to back it up. You don't have "faith" Australia exists, or fire burns: you have evidence. You only need "faith" to believe the untrue or unprovable. Indeed, they are taught that faith is the highest aspiration and most noble cause. Is it any surprise this then percolates into their political views? Faith-based thinking spreads and contaminates the rational.

(Snip)

However strange it seems, the Republican Party really is spinning off into a bizarro-cult who believe Barack Obama is a baby-killer plotting to build death panels for the grannies of America. Their new slogan should be -- shrill, baby, shrill.

A New Cult

**AntRobertson** · 19-08-2009, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

That is sad. I've never heard the right-wingers spew slurs like that. What are the anti-health refom folks? Astro turf, angry mob, swastika wearers...

You are kidding, right??

**raycarey** · 19-08-2009, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

What are the anti-health refom folks?

let's see...

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

astro turf

proven fact. dick armey's group is behind all this, and the money behind him is well documented.
FreedomWorks | Lower Taxes, Less Government, More Freedom
The Tea Party Movement: Who's In Charge? - The Atlantic Politics Channel

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

angry mob,

you can start your search here:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

swastika wearers

NEXT!

**panama hat** · 19-08-2009, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by raycarey

I wonder what the percentage of these semi-literate and ill-educated actually know about the health care issues or reform - or know about the Swastika and how it relates (???) to the topic.

**sabang** · 19-08-2009, 01:27 PM

It's pretty clear who they are speaking to. And these protests, to my mind, are speaking to poor and working class whites who are feeling alienated in today's economy and in today's culture.

Moonbattery

Pretty much says it all.

**sabang** · 19-08-2009, 01:48 PM

Moon bats in Action-

But the real impact has been . It shows a Republican congressman, Mike Castle, addressing a town hall meeting on health care in Delaware last month when a woman suddenly stands up waving a bunch of papers. She says this is her birth certificate and demands to see the president's. "He is not an American citizen, he is a citizen of Kenya," she shouts to applause from others in the audience. Castle insists that Obama was indeed born an American. The crowd boos. As the congressman tries to change the subject, the woman suddenly demands everyone recites the Pledge of Allegiance. The entire hall stands, faces the US flag, place their right hand on their hearts and begins reciting the pledge.

Anti-Barack Obama 'birther movement' gathers steam | World news | guardian.co.uk

**panama hat** · 19-08-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

the woman suddenly demands everyone recites the Pledge of Allegiance. The entire hall stands, faces the US flag, place their right hand on their hearts and begins reciting the pledge.

Friggin' primates . . . this overt nationalism is simply disgusting as it not only borders on xenophobia but thrives on it.

Braindead lemmings

**Jet Gorgon** · 19-08-2009, 10:12 PM

^ You still making money off those Burmese peasants, hatter?

So, I would then assume that all the scientists of the Manhattan Project were libbies, too? And, um, wasn't Truman a libbie? Such nice, thoughtful, peace-abiding folks.

**ItsRobsLife** · 20-08-2009, 02:00 AM

^^
Of course a climate of fear and predjudice are pre-requisite to a Nationalist system. How are you going to hate people in other countries, if you can't even hate your neighbours?
It's funny how the self proclaimed enlightened members of the right fall neatly into step with the propaganda.
Sad knuts.

**Texpat** · 20-08-2009, 02:09 AM

of course, we should just trust this guy.

**Jet Gorgon** · 20-08-2009, 03:17 AM

^ Yep. Note how they dodge the info I put up for them when it's not convenient to their libbie cause.

**slackula** · 20-08-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

So, I would then assume that all the scientists of the Manhattan Project were libbies, too?

I wouldn't dare to say all were, but I don't think Robert Oppenheimer would be voting for the GOP if he were around today...

J. Robert Oppenheimer - Conservapedia

**panama hat** · 20-08-2009, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

^^
Of course a climate of fear and predjudice are pre-requisite to a Nationalist system. How are you going to hate people in other countries, if you can't even hate your neighbours?
It's funny how the self proclaimed enlightened members of the right fall neatly into step with the propaganda.
Sad knuts.

It is simply wrapping yourself in the flag and leading a blinkered life . . .

**ItsRobsLife** · 20-08-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ Yep. Note how they dodge the info I put up for them when it's not convenient to their libbie cause.

Probably more to do with the fact that your posts are hackneyed, puerile and irrelavant.

**Butterfly** · 20-08-2009, 01:58 PM

those conservatives are sad and hopeless, just look at those in this thread, they are beyond pathetic

completely lost, how long before they start blowing themselves up at political rallies ?

**sabang** · 20-08-2009, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

those conservatives are sad and hopeless

Not really- real conservatives have been abandoning the GOP in droves, or just keeping their head down. The cannon fodder at these rallies, well it's blue collar republicans who opposed Barak Hussein Obamas election in the first place. A disenfranchised, embittered minority- and a declining demographic at that.

I suppose three years is a long time, but I can't see any realistic prospect of the Republicans winning the next elections now- I mean what rational person would vote for them, except maybe the 5% richest (the Greedy ones) and the dufus tea party crowds? They've played right into Obamas hands- as long as he gets his Health care reforms through, which seems to me pretty much a given.

**barbaro** · 20-08-2009, 11:43 PM

^ As discussed previously, many demographics voted (D) in the last national Presidential and Congressional elections.

The GOP seems to be a very narrow base apprealing to - yes, a dwindling demographically group - if you look at the county-wide voting throughout the USA.

The Repubs needs to change their brand and appeal to groups. Yes, fiscal conservatives and even higher income Americans didn['t vote GOP last time.

3 years is a long time. A lot can happen in the meantime. But the GOP must change to attract, IMO.

**lysander** · 21-08-2009, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by raycarey

I wonder what the percentage of these semi-literate and ill-educated actually know about the health care issues or reform - or know about the Swastika and how it relates (???) to the topic.

I wonder how those who lost relatives or friends to the Nazi regime feel about the casual use of the Swastika to smear the POTUS?

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