Thread: Biden-Palin debate: gaffe potential?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Joe Barrelguts would be more appropriate for the US

Hey, I resemble that remark.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

'man on the clapham omnibus'

Or
Aelod o Dŷy'r Cyffredin. Close? Apologies for foriegn language use. Mods feel free to trash.

^
very close actually.

I've been warned not to post furrinish by the anglo mods that are too lazy to learn any other lingos.

Nearly watched the whole thing now.

Biden is very, very polished isn't he?

Rather like that he calls Iraq 'Iraq' instead of Airaq, he'd get my vote on that alone.

^ Wasn't it you who referred to the American voter as shallow and stupid?

Can you say Isuzu for us?

I didn't watch the debate. Intentionally. Palin has a wide mouth that often distracts me.

I didn't see where Biden looked polished or Palin seemed more intelligent than before. What I did notice is that Biden spoke as if he were running for president. I can imagine Obama and Biden getting along like oil and water.

Traditionally the VP is a silent type that works in the shadows. Biden still wants to be president.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Biden still wants to be president.

If Biden were the Democratic presidential nominee, he'd be ahead of McCain by 15% points and on his way to a landslide victory. The trouble with the primary system is that it favors the Democrats' liberal activists, not the best candidate. Biden is an establishment Democrat, a polished and intelligent guy with good people skills, very acceptable to a mainstream that is fed up with Republican rule. The Bush-Cheney regime has ruined the Republican brand, even for many Americans with conservative sentiments.

Originally Posted by floorpotato

If Biden were the Democratic presidential nominee, he'd be ahead of McCain by 15% points and on his way to a landslide victory.

Biden's propensity for putting his foot in his mouth makes this scenario highly unlikely.

I wonder why no one is making more of his Hezbolah/Lebanon gaffe in the debate?

He didn't know Herbert Hoover was President during the great depression.
He didn't know television wasn't widely distributed prior to 1935.

He's a pompous idiot career politician.

I'd agree with the 15% . . . no-one is gaffe-proof and when you've given over 100 interviews in 120 days then it's pretty much a given that the odd faux-pas will slip in.

Imagine if Palin had given more than her three (?) interviews . . . thw world would have had cannon-fodder for decades.

I think he is being harshly judged, particularly because Palin is such an empty shell . . .

McCain? Yes, prior to his cuddling up to the far-right, a good man, but not really a maverick.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Imagine if Palin had given more than her three (?) interviews . . . thw world would have had cannon-fodder for decades.
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It will be interesting how the unedited interviews play.

Likely better than the heavily edited Gibson/Couric interviews.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Traditionally the VP is a silent type that works in the shadows.

i think that dynamic changed during this administration.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Biden wants to be president.

i would imagine he does.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by Texpat

Traditionally the VP is a silent type that works in the shadows.

i think that dynamic changed during this administration.

Oh? How many speeches has Dick C given lately?
Where has he been and where is he going?
How often is he quoted in the papers?
The VP is the president of the Senate and is FAR less visible than even senior congressmen. It's a quiet position regardless of which party holds the WH.

Except for that weekend when Cheney shot his friend in the face.
Anybody remember Clinton's VP? It wasn't that long ago.

Sorry, you're just wrong.

^ Well he tried twice.

By golly, gosh, gee willikers, Joe!

What a bunch of apes!

Originally Posted by Texpat

How many speeches has Dick C given lately?

Very few- but don't you think both he and Bush are being kept away from the public glare as much as possible to aid the Mccain campaign?

Originally Posted by Texpat

Sorry, you're just wrong.

this is an interesting segment of the debate.

IFILL: Vice President Cheney's interpretation of the vice presidency?

BIDEN: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.

And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit.

The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

By golly, gosh, gee willikers, Joe

cool, gee dickuddy dammit, Palin speak.

Yeah, we all understand that. No more so than McCain.

But we all don't understand that the VP is a behind the curtains guy/gal.

Aside from being on (opposite ends of) a similar GOP spectrum, McCain and Bush ain't quite drinkin' buddies.

Why didn McCain lose in previous pres elections? Not Republican enough.
Read some of the commentary early on in this campaign -- many of the GOP pundits all said he didn't have a chance. Why? Same reason -- wasn't Republican enough.

Boon Mee even called him GOP-lite.

Seems Biden didn't get the memo.

What makes you think Cheney was any more influential as an adviser than Bush Sr (CIA chief) to Reagan, or Al Gore (umm, Tennessee senator and inventor of the Internet) to Slick Willy?

^ my god...do you read?

I watched this deabte with great interest. Palin's replies seemed very rehearsed and I'm suprised she got through through it without any major blunders.

Originally Posted by HungryHeart

I watched this deabte with great interest. Palin's replies seemed very rehearsed and I'm suprised she got through through it without any major blunders.

Heh...too bad Greasy Joe's blunders overshadowed Palin's - whatever they might have perceived to have been, eh?

^ I like that fancy crayon colouring there, Tex. Ya, and it will be Chicago slime balls in exec positions all over the WH.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

who is Joe sixpack??

Not Joe Biden.

The noms were both in debate training school for several days with stand-ins (a chick congesswoman for Biden, I think) for their opponents. Biden has more political savvy, which is to be expected for his lifetime in office. Palin was not too shabby, IMO.

Originally Posted by HungryHeart

I watched this deabte with great interest. Palin's replies seemed very rehearsed and I'm suprised she got through through it without any major blunders.

Yeah, blunders.

deabte
suprised
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