Thread: Sarah Palin

Originally Posted by panama hat

Women don't simply vote for a woman because she is . . . a woman . . .

Really? That clears up that issue. If you can make this judgment, then you must be a woman.
I'll let your other comments slide as you are likely missing your nanny, too. Hope you still have your teddybear and blanket.

She is just tit interest for the redneck bible bashers who would love four more years of Bush. Her constant gaffs and incoherent babblings and out of her depth dawdling remind me of George W so much it is uncanny.

Does the USA really think that Sarah Palin is a compelling representative of their interests on the world stage?

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

the global anti poverty programme will dwarf the war on terror

And so it should.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Americans are going to suffer like they never have before

I doubt it will match the Great depression, but America is in for a harrd time. You can thank the Bush administration for that.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

universal healthcare scheme will suck money out of workers' wages to provide free healthcare for illegal immigrants and the unemployed

Frankly I do not know the position of II's when it comes to State health care. But is it really so radical for the US to have a similar system of State health care as every other western democracy? I've thought for several years now that what is radical is that this wealthy nation does not afford this level of entitlement- that is basically your birthright in most advanced countries- to it's own citizens.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

the global anti poverty programme will dwarf the war on terror

And so it should.

Yeah, I don't quite see how that's a bad thing either. The War on/of (depending on your perspective) Terror's the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff or the bandage to apply after the injury.

Combating poverty, a root cause, is the saftey rail at the top of the cliff and instructions to avoid injury.

But is it really so radical for the US to have a similar system of State health care as every other western democracy? I've thought for several years now that what is radical is that this wealthy nation does not afford this level of entitlement- that is basically your birthright in most advanced countries- to it's own citizens.

It all boils down to the 'S' word: "socialism". A word that has the power to turn even a seemingly rationale American into a quivering mess of fear. Even more bizzare considering that the US already has elements of socialism. I think it can all be traced back to the 50's, 60's and the Red Menace (check uder your beds!) scare and propaganda.

^ Ant, how would you fare if you moved home with your family? How much tax do you pay in Thailand? 5%? You would have a different view. All you guys crying about the dichotomy between the rich and the poor starving folks. Do you donate to Thai charities or care for the welfare of those poor folks in your neighbourhood?
Yes, the S word turns me off, because I have worked honestly for my investments and I still work because I enjoy it. I don't need a libbie govt to tell me where to spend for charity, especially when they do such a crap job of dispensing my wealth anyway.
Please tell me your research results from the homeland after your next visit.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I have worked honestly for my investments

Good for you- and so have I Jet, so have many other people who come from countries that do have a health care system for it's citizens. It did not preclude us from doing well at the end of the day, and you would have to have a strange mindset to accuse countries such as Aus, Canada, NZ, UK, Germany, Singapore & Sweden of being Socialist. Jeez, even Hong Kong has a State health care system for it's people.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ Ant, how would you fare if you moved home with your family? How much tax do you pay in Thailand? 5%?

Five percent!? I bloody well wish! It's more like 35%, soon to be even higher. In relative terms actually paying more in tax here than I would be back home.

You would have a different view. All you guys crying about the dichotomy between the rich and the poor starving folks. Do you donate to Thai charities or care for the welfare of those poor folks in your neighbourhood?
Yes, the S word turns me off, because I have worked honestly for my investments and I still work because I enjoy it. I don't need a libbie govt to tell me where to spend for charity, especially when they do such a crap job of dispensing my wealth anyway.
Please tell me your research results from the homeland after your next visit.

No, I wouldn't have a different view actually.

A society can be judged by how it treats the lowest of its members, Jet. All this talk of charity and who's giving what to whom is a red-herring.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

How much tax do you pay in Thailand? 5%?

I thought you lived in Thailand. 5%? Hey Terry! Proof she never lived/worked here.

Originally Posted by sabang

Good for you- and so have I Jet, so have many other people who come from countries that do have a health care system for it's citizens. It did not preclude us from doing well at the end of the day, and you would have to have a strange mindset to accuse countries such as Aus, Canada, NZ, UK, Germany, Singapore & Sweden of being Socialist. Jeez, even Hong Kong has a State health care system for it's people.

Because in the eyes of the uneducated, but bulldog partisan, anything to do with taxation expenditure is equaled to socialism. The idea that helping those in need is an alien concept for those who believe in everyone for themselves . . . oddly enough there is so much of a bolster all around them that they can't see it. The very society that protects the poor also protects the wealthy . . . even more.

Tax dollars include defense (big time in the US), roads, bureaucrats (any kind, even he ones that help the rich) etc . . . it is NOT just all welfare and health.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

A society can be judged by how it treats the lowest of its members

Bingo, but it doesn't compute because the idea is that everyone can and should stand on their own feet . . . yet when these blowhards are in trouble they have the same reaction and the need for aid. Funny that

^ So what happened after you lost your biz in Loei?

^ closed it down . . . and re-built it in Chanthaburi . . . still making money . . . and paying taxes . . . nowhere near the 5% you are talking about, is that how much you paid?

If you're interested I'll happily explain how we built the bio-fuel plant as a community project to supply the rural poor with cheap diesel-Ersatz and provide work for
almost 20 people directly . . . and more indirectly . . .

I can also explain how we supplied local rubber small-holders with the newest technology to increase their wealth with minimum investment - RoI (OH that means Return of Investment, Jet) 4 days and lasts 10 months.

I could tell you lots of things that we did - how about free legal advice three times a week at a local wat by my wife for the people . . .

And we still made money and still do, even from afar

Nah, you don't want to hear that, you can't slag it off . . .


Oh, thank you for finally writing a post to me without insults.

Here are some more attendees at Palin's rallies.

Such nice, calm, rational people.

^ It is clear, and clearly pathetic, that these people belong to the economic strata that will benefit from Obamas policies. How can people be so out of touch with the world around them?

Oh, thats right- he's Black, he's Muslim, he's a Terrorist and a Pinko. Brainwashed, and brainless- the sort of environment these people inhabit strikes me as a pretty sad place.

Originally Posted by sabang

^ It is clear, and clearly pathetic, that these people belong to the economic strata that will benefit from Obamas policies. How can people be so out of touch with the world around them?

That's what I don't get either!? How can they be so completely pig-headed ignorant; it's cutting of your nose to spite your face taken to the nth degree.

Oh sorry, I see you've already answered that:

Oh, thats right- he's Black, he's Muslim, he's a Terrorist and a Pinko. Brainwashed, and brainless- the sort of environment these people inhabit strikes me as a pretty sad place.

Sad indeed.

Originally Posted by panama hat

^ closed it down . . . and re-built it in Chanthaburi . . . still making money . . . and paying taxes . . . nowhere near the 5% you are talking about, is that how much you paid?

If you're interested I'll happily explain how we built the bio-fuel plant as a community project to supply the rural poor with cheap diesel-Ersatz and provide work for
almost 20 people directly . . . and more indirectly . . .

I can also explain how we supplied local rubber small-holders with the newest technology to increase their wealth with minimum investment - RoI (OH that means Return of Investment, Jet) 4 days and lasts 10 months.

I could tell you lots of things that we did - how about free legal advice three times a week at a local wat by my wife for the people . . .

And we still made money and still do, even from afar

Nah, you don't want to hear that, you can't slag it off . . .


Oh, thank you for finally writing a post to me without insults.

Yep, flood us with side details to cover up the facts.

^ You be a pushover, hatter. You can't be a good bizman. I ask you one Q and you blabber a whole pile of personal and biz info. That's where ego kills ya, madder. Cannae stop talking about yerself. There's a free lesson for ya if you can understand it.

Either America is going to have unversal healthcare or it isn't. The moment you start asking accident victims for their ID you cease to have universal care. If the USA introduces a system similar to that in the UK every Mexican who sneezes will be across the border for his free healthcare and an entire industry will grow up ferrying them back and forth. Not to mention the Cubans and the occasional hard-up Canadian.

It only works if all of your neighbours are affluent or if you are surrounded by water.

I am also pleased to learn that Obama wants America to eradicate world poverty.

Not so sure about where the money comes from for this if taxes are being cut too, unless he plans on removing tax breaks on things like company pensions and 401K's. Well, that's what the nice charismatic Mr. Blair did in the UK, before he raised social security payments (Social Security isn't tax, apparently).

So you wind up with the poor buggers who are working paying higher social Security and getting lower pensions to pay for the "free" healthcare everyone else is enjoying.

When I lived in the UK the free healthcare was atrocious so I had private healthcare too.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Well, that's what the nice charismatic Mr. Blair did in the UK, before he raised social security payments (Social Security isn't tax, apparently).

Same same Bush- I wonder who copied who.

I do not believe II's, or visitors, should have a free health care entitlement- except perhaps casualty/outpatient- as basically exists now in the US.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

I am also pleased to learn that Obama wants America to eradicate world poverty.

Did he say that? how wonderful- but I suggest he start eliminating US poverty first.

Really, the US foreign aid budget is quite modest as a percentage of it's GDP compared to many other countries, and last thing I knew about half of that went to Israel anyway.

Originally Posted by sabang

Did he say that? how wonderful- but I suggest he start eliminating US poverty first.

That's the plan. Eliminate poverty in the US so the world can sell more to the biggest consumer market in the world. See it all fits don't it.

Originally Posted by Milkman

^ Do you get any money from the Federal or state government, Earl?

No, but for years I worked in a business that reaped fat government subsidies.
If I'm lucky I'll be alive to cash out some SS benefits with the USD being worth more than the paper it's printed on.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

Either America is going to have universal healthcare or it isn't. The moment you start asking accident victims for their ID you cease to have universal care.

US emergency care is free, innit? They have to admit and care for you whether you have healthcare or not. (Hey, I watch ER.)
I have to show my healthcare card if I go to emergency in Canada. A few Mericans sneak across to get care, but end up going back home coz they have to wait so long.

She is the new Bush !!! No one has showed such bare faced ignorance since W's first campain for the White House

1. "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?" --Sarah Palin, interview with CNBC's "Kudlow & Co", July 2008 (Watch video clip)

2. "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." --Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008 (Watch video clip)

3. "Well, let's see. There's -- of course -- in the great history of America rulings there have been rulings." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Watch video clip)

4. "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Watch video clip)

5. "They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008

6. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending soldiers out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." –Sarah Pailn, on the Iraq war, speaking to students at the Wasilla Assembly of God, June 2008 ( )

7. "I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you." --Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS interview, Sept. 24, 2008 (Watch video clip)

8. "That's exactly what we're going to do in a Palin and McCain administration." --Sarah Palin, elevating herself to the top of the ticket, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008 (Watch video clip)

9. "I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere." –Sarah Palin, who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it

10. "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council