Thread: HIV Infection risks

^ Keep moving those posts, DTW.

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Yes it does, but my point on that was mostly directed at those who haven't..As they can't relate..

so therefore mozzies carried and spread AIDS, excellent logic....

Originally Posted by Driventowin

You having been in the medical community however counter balances and disqualifies your point since you have inside understanding of the continual disclaimers made in these circumstances, it places you in league with that mind set..

now i know you are just trolling!

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Yes, to a certain extent it does, but my point on that was mostly directed at those who haven't..As they can't relate..

You having been in the medical community however counter balances and disqualifies your point since you have inside understanding of the continual disclaimers made in these circumstances, it places you in league with that mind set..

So to your mind in order to be able to hold a valid opinion someone must first meet an arbitrary set of circumstances and standards. That you yourself set.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I got bitten by 5 mossies today, didn't have any big black man bugger me though.

Better luck tomorrow.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Yes, to a certain extent it does, but my point on that was mostly directed at those who haven't..As they can't relate..

You having been in the medical community however counter balances and disqualifies your point since you have inside understanding of the continual disclaimers made in these circumstances, it places you in league with that mind set..

So to your mind in order to be able to hold a valid opinion someone must first meet an arbitrary set of circumstances and standards. That you yourself set.

If someone's trying to convince me of their position....Yes...

this thread is great, it's like arguing with Kerux...which in itself is an entirely futile thing to do...

^^ Well then, therein lies your problem. Keep shifting the posts like that and eventually they only person 'qualified' to agree with you is yourself.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Kerux

I was just thinking a similar thought. There's definately a hint of Keruxness about all this.

^There's supposed to be some draw back to that logic??

Originally Posted by Driventowin

There's supposed to be some draw back to that logic??

What? Other than being the epitomy of close-mindedness you mean?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

^^ Well then, therein lies your problem. Keep shifting the posts like that and eventually they only person 'qualified' to agree with you is yourself.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Kerux

I was just thinking a similar thought. There's definately a hint of Keruxness about all this.

Brilliant minds think alike... yeah right!!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Driventowin

There's supposed to be some draw back to that logic??

What? Other than being the epitomy of close-mindedness you mean?

Just steadfast in my convictions, beliefs and knowledge unwavering in the face of intimidation or conformation tactics..

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Just steadfast in my convictions, beliefs and knowledge unwavering in the face of intimidation or conformation tactics..

worthy of the great man himself!

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Just steadfast in my convictions, beliefs and knowledge unwavering in the face of intimidation or conformation tactics..

There's a very thin line between 'steadfast in convictions' and 'wilful blindness'; 'beliefs' and 'untenable conspiracy theories'.

Originally Posted by Driventowin

Just ... unwavering in the face of intimidation or conformation tactics..

Or evidence. Or the lack of evidence.

^That's what I'm talking about there is no conclusive evidence to the contrary..

Nobody should be at danger from AIDs if they use the correct protection

Originally Posted by chalkmeister

Nobody should be at danger from AIDs if they use the correct protection

Welcome to TD & please don't take this personally, but you've dropped into the middle of a rather mind-boggling debate...

What would that protection be, in your opinion, chalkmeister? Condoms or mosquito repellent?

Hope to see more of your posts, Meister.


Love that I've now been officially excluded from the discussion because I'm in cahoots with the medical profession... Actually, it's more vets, these days, but I guess they're all part of the big, bad conspiracy.

has anyone ever disproved that computers can transmit AIDS along the internet?

perhaps we'd better be careful....

This thread should only be read when drunk, stoned or otherwise mind-altered.

^ he's been shown, but he dont want to know.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Driventowin

It is correct.....Show me proof there is a conclusive study done?? Conclusive = no disclaimers......

Would these fill your request. I really tried to find a link that supported your argument. Did it because I was curious myself.

"Mosquito and insect bites do not transmit HIV, because HIV cannot multiply in the insect's body. The trace amount of the virus on the mosquito is not sufficient to cause an infection. No case has been found in the world of transmission of HIV by a mosquito or other insect.

UNICEF China - Children and HIV/AIDS - The 10 Facts on HIV and AIDS

Another:

Q: Do mosquitoes transmit AIDS?

A: HIV is a disease of the blood that causes AIDS. It disables the body's immune system, causing those who have the disease to become sick and die from other infections. So it seems logical that a mosquito could pick up this virus from an infected person and transmit it to another person, much like Malaria is transmitted. In order to answer this question let's consider several angles. HIV doesn't do so well outside of the human body. Inside the mosquito, HIV cannot replicate. The mosquito does not become HIV-infected. Unlike other mosquito-borne diseases, HIV does not have the mechanisms necessary to travel out of the mosquito's gut. The mosquito digests the blood that it consumes, including the HIV.

Inside the human bloodstream, HIV does not produce high virus particle levels, as do other diseases. About 70 to 80% of HIV-infected persons have undetectable levels of virus particles in their blood. This makes it virtually impossible for a mosquito to pick up a single HIV virus.

Perhaps the most convincing evidence that mosquitoes don't transmit HIV is the fact that it isn't happening. No one has ever become HIV-infected from a mosquito bite. As published by the San Francisco Dept. of Public Health, the real numbers on who is contracting AIDS in the United States thru 1999 show that 83% are male. As of 2004 only 0.1% of AIDS cases were in children 13 years of age and younger. If HIV were being transmitted by mosquitoes, the numbers would include many, many more females, elderly and children. Mosquitoes do not discriminate based on gender or age when seeking their next bloodmeal.

Sutter-Yuba Mosquito Vector Control District (SYMVCD)

Another:
Myth: HIV/AIDS can be spread by . . .
. . . casual contact with a person who has HIV
. . . mosquitoes
. . . being tattooed
. . . breathing the air around an HIV-infected person
. . . toilet seats or doorknobs
. . . touching, hugging, holding hands or cheek kissing an
HIV-infected person
. . . kissing an HIV-infected person
. . . sharing silverware or plates with an HIV-infected person
. . . sharing exercise equipment or playing sports with an HIV-infected
person

During a mosquito bite, the mosquito injects its own saliva into the person it is biting. It is not injecting blood from the last person the mosquito bit. Mosquito saliva can carry infections such as malaria, dengue fever, yellow fever or West Nile virus. That is how a person can get those infections from a mosquito bite. HIV cannot be transmitted in that way.

AIDS Healthcare Foundation - Myths About HIV/AIDS

Another

Question: Can I get infected with HIV from mosquitoes?
Answer: The answer is a resounding NO. From the start of the HIV epidemic there has been concern about HIV transmission of the virus by biting and bloodsucking insects, such as mosquitoes. However, studies conducted by the CDC and elsewhere have shown no evidence of HIV transmission through mosquitoes or any other insects -- even in areas where there are many cases of AIDS and large populations of mosquitoes. Lack of such outbreaks, despite intense efforts to detect them, supports the conclusion that HIV is not transmitted by insects.

HIV from Mosquitoes - Bug and HIV - Mosquito HIV Risk

No case has been found in the world of transmission of HIV by a mosquito or other insect."

DQ!!

This makes it virtually impossible for a mosquito to pick up a single HIV virus.

DQ....

no evidence of HIV transmission through mosquitoes or any other insects --

DQ....

Again all disclaimers, no firm commitment to the evidence they claim to have. In a court of law a good prosecuting or defense attorney would tear that type of testimony apart if it were a case against you about something you'd done in say a civil trial..

And the others are speculation an supposition.. Don't believe me, look up those definitions and see how they apply..