Ukraine war mega thread

[Troy]

You have got to be kidding? How can someone be so ignorant of history, especially at your age.



Good god, the ignorance is astounding. Chalk nev up into the vatnik clown car.



Backslapping your new buddy. The clown car has a new addition.

The biggest addition to the clown car comes from the US, Donald Trump!

Europe is worried he will become president and withdraw the US help Ukraine is receiving. The threat is worse than anything Putin can do in the near future.

So maybe it's time to stop pretending and defend Ukraine airspace as well as putting troops on the ground before the US commit political suicide by electing the clown.

[david44]

ARE THE gERMAN PREPARED TO PAY OR DIE LIKE MACRON

[Norton]

So maybe it's time to stop pretending and defend Ukraine airspace as well as putting troops on the ground before the US commit political suicide by electing the clown.

If the "west" really wants to get Russia completely out of the Ukraine this is exactly what needs done but more importantly they must impose and enforce strong sactions not just on Russia but on Iran, India and China. The consequence of doing so will hurt the economies of the west but it is the only way to stop Putin. Put up or shut up to all in the "west"!

Not going to happen so Russia will continue with superior numbers until they have what they want in the Ukraine.

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importantly they must impose and enforce strong sactions not just on Russia but on Iran, India and China.

Why not add the rest of the world, who doesn't support .....Operation Ukraine ?

The consequence of doing so will hurt the economies of the west but it is the only way to stop Putin. Put up or shut up to all in the "west"!

Trump would be your man for that little project. Last one I remember, who used the sanction/tarif weapon.

And it'll be good for the climate

Not going to happen

Ofcourse not

so Russia will continue with superior numbers until they have what they want in the Ukraine.

Does that mean that you have called off your ...."all out" invasion predictions ?

Thought that you would.


What's needed is that the big boy in the classroom tells everyone to gather round the table.

Then the outcome will be what Ukraine and Russia agreed on in Istanbul, before Boris Johnson ordered Kiev to call it off.


No Hokus Pokus there and Trump will receive his Nobel Prize.

Art of the Deal



(this is not a prediction, but at least it'll irritate BSnap)

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German Minister of Defence: Leaked conversation about missiles took place on an unauthorized connection

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Rasmus Christiansen




It was an individual mistake that caused 38 minutes of a German video conference on potential missiles to Ukraine to be leaked and shared in Russia.

Germany's Defense Minister, Boris Pistorius, said Tuesday at a press conference.

- One of the participants called into the meeting via an unsecured line. Thus, Russia has likely intercepted the call with ordinary surveillance and not targeted spy surveillance, he said, stressing that it will make sure it does not happen again.

According to German media outlet Deutsche Welle, the leaked footage shows four high-ranking officers discussing the possibility of delivering German-made Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine and what targets they could hit.

The Taurus is an airborne cruise missile launched from a fighter aircraft with a range of 500 kilometres.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on Saturday that the potential leak was "very serious".

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Russia presents maps showing the ambition of the division of Ukraine - and not only Russia gets a bite


According to military analysts, the map can be seen as an expression of the fact that Russia's ambitions in the war remain very large.







During the presentation, Dmitry Medvedev wore a so-called Mao suit, a traditional Chinese suit.

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Anna Danielsen Gille


What was called Ukraine's "historical borders" was presented yesterday by Russia's former President Dmitry Medvedev.

At a youth conference in the Black Sea coastal city of Sochi, Medvedev, deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council and close ally of Putin, stood in front of a large colored map showing Ukraine's territory divided.

According to the indication, the vast majority of Ukraine's rightful land will go to Russia, while a small part will go to Poland and Romania. And then Ukraine will be allowed to rule the capital.

Medvedev previously shared the map on the messaging service Telegram back in 2022, but this time it will be presented to an audience and broadcast in Russian media.

According to the ex-president, the map shows the future that Russia will have once it has achieved the objectives of the "special military operation" and Ukraine's leadership has surrendered.

"One of Ukraine's former leaders said at one point that Ukraine does not belong to Russia," Dmitry Medvedev told the conference.

"That understanding will have to disappear forever. Ukraine is definitely part of Russia," he said.



The former president called the drawn borders of Ukraine as "historic parts of Russia".

While there has been no immediate reaction from Ukraine, Romania's Foreign Ministry has responded by calling the presentation propaganda.

"Such attitudes are part of the propaganda and disinformation tools that Russia has used for a long time and that were reinforced after the start of the illegal and illegitimate war of aggression against Ukraine," the Romania Journal said in a statement.

Ambitious goals for the war


Medvedev is known for saying very sharp things about the war in Russia, and there have also been examples of his statements being softened by other Russian politicians.

ANDERS PUCK NIELSEN, MILITARY ANALYST AT THE ROYAL DANISH DEFENCE COLLEGE.

But you have to take his words seriously, because he is as big a profile in Russia as he is. And the level of ambition is in line with what Putin has shown in Russia recently, according to Anders Puck Nielsen, a military analyst at the Royal Danish Defence College.

Among other things, Putin said in an interview with the American journalist and former Fox News host Tucker Carlson that the ambition is to bring Russia back to its heyday and thus re-establish a Greater Russia.

READ ALSO:Putin began by mocking the former TV host: 'Is this a talk show or a serious conversation?'
"Putin himself has used the concept that Russia is borderless. This is the concept they call 'the Russian world', which is supposed to bring together people who have historically had anything to do with Russia. There is an understanding that there is no limit to how far Russia can spread among the populations, says Anders Puck Nielsen.

He therefore also believes that it can be seen as an indication that the level of ambition for Russia in the war remains high, even though the front lines have not moved much in the last long time.

"It shows somewhere that the goals of the war haven't changed that much from 2022 to today. We need to understand that Russia's ambitions are very large, says Anders Puck Nielsen.







Last week, Russian President Putin gave a marathon speech to the Russian Parliament. Here he claimed, among other things, that Russia's "special operation" in Ukraine is supported by a majority of Russians.
Hijacked populations can bring more prosperity


In his speech to the youth conference, Dmitry Medvedev also said, among other things, that Russia's territory is "inseparable from Ukraine" and that any attempt to change it by force would be condemned.

"All our adversaries need to understand once and for all: all territories on both sides of the Dnipro River are integral parts of Russia's strategic and historical borders," he said.

It is not only land that Russia wants. It is also the people who live there. And it can have a kind of self-reinforcing effect, because when you have some people, you can also put them to be soldiers.

ANDERS PUCK NIELSEN, MILITARY ANALYST AT THE ROYAL DANISH DEFENCE COLLEGE.

Medvedev further said Russia will rule out any peace deal unless Ukraine agrees to Russia's premise about where the borders are between the countries.

At the moment, it is Russia that is - very slowly - gaining ground on the battlefield and has the military advantages, while Ukraine is crying out for ammunition.

The Russian momentum may also be the reason why they are talking so big about the war right now, says Anders Puck Nielsen from the Defense College.

"There has been a long period where we did not hear the big announcements from Russia, but lately we have heard both Putin and Medvedev and others talk about Kharkiv and Odessa as Russian cities," the military analyst said.







Ukraine lacks ammunition, partly because European countries have not been able to deliver what they have promised, says Anders Puck Nielsen. The picture of the Ukrainian soldier here was taken on the front line near the city of Kreminna yesterday.
According to Anders Puck Nielsen, it is important to keep the population in mind when Russia presents such a map. Because if Russia succeeds in conquering more parts of Ukraine in the future, it will give the war even more momentum, he explains.

"It's not just land that Russia wants. It is also the people who live there. And it can have a kind of self-reinforcing effect, because when you have some people, you can also put them to be soldiers, says Anders Puck Nielsen.

"You can see this in many places in the areas that are being conquered. Here people are sent into the army and put to fight on the Russian side. So this should also be borne in mind when Russia shows such maps. There is an expectation that they can pick up more soldiers along the way to realize their goals, he says.

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1.

Medvedev is the reason that I do not wish Putin dead just now

2.

ANDERS PUCK NIELSEN, MILITARY ANALYST AT THE ROYAL DANISH DEFENCE COLLEGE.

This boy, who Bettyboo thinks the world of for some reason, is as you can see...an analyst, and he has been busy here in Denmark, explaining why all of his...analyses has been wrong.

"Nothing has gone as we hoped and expected"

No shit, Sherlock !


He expected the russkis to run, like BSnub.

Difference is that we do not pay BSnub good money


Rant over

[OhOh]

Russia cannot win an "all out war" and he knows it.

Who are you suggesting, is able to, win an "all out war"?

Not going to happen so Russia will continue with superior numbers until they have what they want in the Ukraine.

Not only superior numbers of troops, but Tactics, Resources, Political leaders, Diplomats, Weapons production/delivery .......

Wonder if having a navy is now a liability as Ukraine a country with no navy decimates the Russian marine using drones.

Russian nuclear submarines have global choices of targets, the Black Sea fleet is being utilised to shoot missiles into Ukraine.

How many Russian nuclear submarines have been sunk, where are they and who is to defend the the NATO fleets or citizens from them?

UK cant fire it's submarine nuclear missiles, allegedly, or send to sea it's two carriers, with no UK aircraft ?

NaGaStan tried to intimidate Iran and quickly withdrew it's own subs from the Persian Gulf. It's carrier groups cleared away from the Mediterranean Sea coast/left to go home.

Will France's subs act alone, and leave undefended French mainland targets, to be flattened? I suspect not.

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Will France's subs act alone, and leave undefended French mainland targets, to be flattened? I suspect not.

Macron probably has plans to deploy the fleet to the Caspian Sea



Would take the russkis by surprise big time


(Caspian Sea is an "inland sea", BSnub)

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Originally Posted by david44
Wonder if having a navy is now a liability as Ukraine a country with no navy decimates the Russian marine using drones.

Can't be good for morale

[OhOh]

5 Mar, 2024 14:17


HomeWorld News
Victoria Nuland quits

She will be out from the US State Department within several weeks, Antony Blinken has said

"US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is poised to leave her post soon, Secretary of State Antony Blinken has announced. The senior official, widely regarded as a foreign policy hawk, played a key role in the Western-backed coup in Kiev in 2014.

In a statement on Tuesday, Blinken noted that his friend “Toria” has held most of the jobs at the State Department, from a consular officer to ambassador and deputy secretary, over her 35-year career. Her most recent posting was as undersecretary for political affairs. She was also Blinken’s acting deputy after the July 2023 retirement of Wendy Sherman, until Kurt Campbell was confirmed to the post last month.

“What makes Toria truly exceptional is the fierce passion she brings to fighting for what she believes in most: freedom, democracy, human rights, and America’s enduring capacity to inspire and promote those values around the world,” Blinken said.

He also noted that her “leadership on Ukraine” will be the subject of study “for years to come” by diplomats and students of foreign policy.

Nuland was directly involved in the Maidan uprising and the subsequent coup in Kiev. In December 2013, she visited Ukraine to hand out pastries to the armed protesters in Kiev’s central square. She was then recorded discussing how to “midwife this thing” with then-US ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, just days before the February 2014 coup.
She resigned from the State Department during the Trump administration, taking the helm of the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) think-tank before joining the Albright Stonebridge Group and the board of the National Endowment for Democracy (NED). She rejoined the government after President Joe Biden’s inauguration in 2021.

In that capacity, she has worked on arming Ukraine and assembling a Western coalition that would supply Kiev with weapons and ammunition for the conflict with Russia. Last month, she pleaded to Congress to approve $61 billion in funding to Ukraine, arguing that most of it would be “going right back into the US economy,” to create jobs in the weapons industry.

Her most recent trip to Kiev involved intervening with President Vladimir Zelensky on behalf of General Valery Zaluzhny, though to no avail. Zaluzhny was subsequently fired.

In a CNN interview at the end of February, Nuland admitted the defeat of US policy towards Moscow, describing today’s Russia as “not the Russia that, frankly, we wanted.”

Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova attributed Nuland’s exit to “the failure of the anti-Russian course of the Biden administration.”

“Russophobia, proposed by Victoria Nuland as the main foreign policy concept of the United States, is dragging the Democrats to the bottom like a stone,” Zakharova said. Posting a photo of Nuland taken at an Orthodox church at some point, she said that if the US politician wanted to “go to a monastery to atone for your sins, we can put in a good word.”

Nuland is married neoconservative stalwart Robert Kagan. Her sister-in-law Kimberley Kagan, married to Robert’s brother Fred, runs the Institute for the Study of War. Her temporary replacement at the State Department will be Under Secretary for Management John Bass."

https://www.rt.com/news/593816-us-de...f0n8k153622531

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"US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is poised to leave her post soon

Too bad

He also noted that her “leadership on Ukraine” will be the subject of study “for years to come” by diplomats and students of foreign policy.

I bet
Maybe even her funding of the coup that resulted in a Ukraine on fire

she has worked on arming Ukraine and assembling a Western coalition that would supply Kiev with weapons and ammunition for the conflict with Russia.

"Fuck the EU"

Last month, she pleaded to Congress to approve $61 billion in funding to Ukraine, arguing that most of it would be “going right back into the US economy,” to create jobs in the weapons industry.

So noble

Her most recent trip to Kiev involved intervening with President Vladimir Zelensky on behalf of General Valery Zaluzhny, though to no avail. Zaluzhny was subsequently fired.

In a CNN interview at the end of February, Nuland admitted the defeat of US policy towards Moscow, describing today’s Russia as “not the Russia that, frankly, we wanted.”

No ?

You made the bed, now....

Nuland is married neoconservative stalwart Robert Kagan. Her sister-in-law Kimberley Kagan, married to Robert’s brother Fred, runs the Institute for the Study of War.

Favorite source of info for BSnub and Troy.

Fair and balanced ?


Not perfect for the russians

Such a divisive ...person was better kept in her job or promoted

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From RT
Any inaccuracies ?

[Neverna]

Which European countries are you concerned about potentially being invaded by Russia, snubs?

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Buying military equipment from the US should be a thing of the past, the EU believes: 'The Union must get its act together and fend for itself'


Today, the EU countries' arms purchases are "chaotic", says DR's defense correspondent.







A strong, resilient and competitive European defence industry is a strategic necessity and a prerequisite for increasing our defence preparedness," said EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell at today's press conference. (Photo: © John Thys, Ritzau Scanpix
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Julie Würtz


In the future, Denmark may buy fewer helicopters, ammunition and other equipment for the armed forces produced on the other side of the Atlantic.

According to the European Commission's first proposal for a common European defence strategy, member states must be better at producing and buying weapons from each other instead of being dependent on countries such as the United States.

READ ALSO:European Commission to invest €1.5 billion in defence industry

"A strong, resilient and competitive European defence industry is a strategic necessity and a prerequisite for increasing our defence preparedness," EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement.

The EU itself will mobilise DKK 11.2 billion to strengthen the union's competitiveness within defence, while member states are encouraged to jointly acquire 40 per cent of their defence equipment internally from each other by 2030. A collaboration that should increase to 60 percent by 2035.

Because the EU countries are lagging behind when it comes to being able to defend themselves, says DR's defense correspondent Mads Korsager.

"After Russia invaded Ukraine, lots of weapons and ammunition were purchased – but most of it was purchased in the United States. There you want to be able to produce more goods and get a bigger slice of that cake, become more independent and fend for yourself.

Cooperation can make defence procurement cheaper


Korsager calls the EU countries' arms strategy as it is today chaotic.

"Each country has its own recipe for how to do it. There is no common strategy.

But now it's time to sit down together and do group work, he believes.

- Denmark likes to shop in small portions. For example, if we buy ten helicopters, they may have to be rebuilt in a special way. But it also makes it expensive and cumbersome, and there is the EU's mindset that purchases are pooled so that countries buy the same thing and help each other get a better price.

The EU's new strategy of being able to produce more weapons itself has not come out of thin air either.

The presentation comes in the wake of US presidential candidate Donald Trump saying at a rally in February that he would urge Russia "to do what the hell it wants" if NATO countries do not pay two percent of their GDP for defence.


"If you buy weapons in Europe, we can supply ourselves in the long term, and we don't have to ask the United States for help," Korsager said.

Can catch up with Russia - if we can cooperate


The idea behind the defence strategy is that the member states should not pull extra money out of their pockets, but simply channel it to their neighbouring countries so that the countries help each other strengthen European defence cooperation.

However, this is easier said than done, says Mads Korsager. This requires European countries to be able to agree on everything that is in the strategy paper.

But the question is whether the countries are willing to bow down, as someone has to swallow some camels

MADS KORSAGER, DR'S DEFENSE CORRESPONDENT

"There are some countries that have some big arms industries that probably have an opinion on how things should be done and who they should sell to. They may also have some strategic alliances with other countries. So it is a big and open question as to whether it can be done, says DR's defense correspondent.

But no matter how much money the EU spits into internal arms production, is it enough to catch up with Russia's arms investments?

- It is a definite yes. The European economic muscle is far greater than Russia's. The only question is whether cooperation can be made to work and the mechanisms in place. It's easier to be the leader of an autocracy where Putin just has to say "do it" and industry does what he asks them to. It gives some speed.

"But even though it should be a small matter for the EU, the question is whether the countries are willing to bow down, as someone has to swallow some camels," Korsager said.

If the Europeans end up agreeing on arms cooperation, however, we should not forget the role of the Americans, according to Peter Viggo Jakobsen, associate professor at the Royal Danish Defence College.





While it would be beneficial for Europeans to produce more weapons in their own court, it is still important to maintain good relations with the United States. Other things could be a problem, he believes.

When a Donald Trump may arrive shortly, he will say that not only will he finance the EU's defense, now the Europeans will also not buy American weapons. He doesn't want to be part of that.

- So there are some things you have to have acted on. Especially in relation to the Americans, so that it does not affect transatlantic cooperation, says Peter Viggo Jakobsen.

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Peter Viggo is a "good" expert.

Not that I agree with him all the time, but when the rulers want him fired, he's a keeper.

If you read his part in the last part of the article, you'll see that he "gets it"

[Norton]

Does that mean that you have called off your ...."all out" invasion predictions ?

Yep..the prediction was to a degree a more what needs to be done thing.

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Yep..the prediction was to a degree a more what needs to be done thing.

OK
Was said prediction marinated in .......Leo ?

[Norton]

Never. Beer Lao exclusively to chase down the last toke on the bong.

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.............

[david44]

Which European countries are you concerned about potentially being invaded by Russia, snubs?

Trandnietria they have the larget arm dump.I wouldn't be investing in Abkhazia, Gorgia or Moldova until they get a NATO ticket, few other placess may come into Medvedev's sights

I am well aware of the attack one one i an attack on all but a breakout using Belarus via the Twangste SSsulwalki gap to reunite Kalimigrad with the CIS?

The half hearted support for failing shrinking Ukraine sends the wrong signals, better uss drones against Mocow now than Trident in the last minute of human exisstence.

St Peterssburg easy target from NATO drones in Estonia and Finland, avoid civilians damage infrastructure , oh and sanction wobble headed BRICS and Germans if they keep leaking like a Brownshirt cocckmuncher during the knight of the long knives.

Western Europe is still spinelesss, profligate of itss temporary peace dfended from Ramstein and expects US taxpayers to finance their defence , thoe in the East know what Ohho's comrade were like the fellow traveller of Putin's KGB , the gulag the STASI , The vile Czech equivalent Státní bezpečnost.

[OhOh]

This too shall pass. There will be Western troops in the Ukraine before this is over

Some answers to questions by the Russian Foreign Minster.

Foreign policy News

4 March 2024 18:08

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s answers to questions during a special session of a large MGIMO discussion programme combined with the 7th Global Forum of Young Diplomats, Russia and Its Role in Shaping a Multipolar World, Sochi, March 4, 2024

1. "Many things as the result of words that accidentally slipped out, or provocative “demarches” that were deliberately worded.

Currently, Europe, represented by French President Emmanuel Macron, is “practicing” this. “Anything is possible if it is used to reach our goal, including sending NATO ground forces to Ukraine, but there is no consensus regarding the official sending of ground forces.”

It has long been known that British, French, and American instructors are operating in Ukraine, helping them service, load, and operate long-range and other types of systems that are provided to Ukraine in large quantities.

The aid provided to Kiev over two years amounts to $250 billion. During the same period, all African countries received $60 billion from the West and Western institutions.

2.The priorities of the West are clear. What is interesting are the words said by Western figures, including the response of German politicians when the truth about the recording of conversations between German generals was revealed.

Some of them are concerned there was a leak from a secure line. The fact that German weapons and the personnel servicing them are going to be used to attack the Russian Federation, including the Crimean Bridge and ammo depots, is not surprising. T

hey wonder why the secure line turned out to be not so secure. This says a lot. They have also found the right word to legitimise in the public sphere the very idea of ​​sending ground forces from “individual NATO countries.”

3. US Secretary of Defence Lloyd Austin, who was recently discharged from hospital after treatment, clarified what it was all about.

He stated that if Ukraine suffers defeat, the alliance will have to oppose Russia.

Thus, he clarified the “vague allusions” in European discourse that if Russia were allowed to win in Ukraine then, after victory, it would attack Finland, Poland, and the Baltic countries.

President Putin has repeatedly responded to this delusional rhetoric. It’s a completely fabricated “horror story” the sole purpose of which is to get the US Congress to allocate the funds demanded by President Biden’s administration.

This is the value of words. No one is surprised anymore to see such plans being discussed. It’s the value of a word which was either accidentally blurted out or deliberately said to express dangerous ideas."

4. The UN has sealed the principle of non-interference in internal affairs, which has been violated numerous times by the US and many of its allies, starting with their interventions in Latin America. In Panama and Grenada, an American journalist was threatened with rape, which was used as an excuse to deploy troops to these countries under the slogan “We do not abandon US citizens.”

But what happened when Russia began protecting Russians who were banned from speaking their language, honoring their heroes and history but were forced to only glorify Hitler’s accomplices – Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevich?

Let me remind you that education, the media and culture in the Russian language were banned in Ukraine. Officials of the Kiev regime, which came to power after the coup d’etat in February 2014, openly stated that people in Kharkov and Nikolayev must forget the Russian language completely. All those who remained in Crimea after its reunification with the Russian Federation were supposed to be arrested and tested for loyalty. Why did they stay in Crimea when Russia came there?

Nobody mentioned the referendum. The putschists said that the Russians must be done away with. The coup leaders declared that the Russians in Crimea needed to be eliminated both legally, through the adoption of laws, and physically.

The UN Charter contains numerous principles. The problem lies in their observance – whether it is fair or unjust.

The Crimeans held a referendum, which was attended by many international observers, and voted overwhelmingly to return to Russia. The referendum was widely televised and shared on social media. The joy that the Crimeans felt on that occasion cannot be faked. Everyone understood this. During discussions on how to proceed with Donbass, even US Secretary of State John Kerry said that everything regarding Crimea was clear. This was in April 2014, when we tried to reach settlement on the self-proclaimed republics in Donetsk and Lugansk.

At that time, the West declared the referendum illegal because it violated the principle of territorial integrity, which is enshrined in the UN Charter.

However, in 2008, Western countries unilaterally proclaimed the independence of Kosovo without a referendum.

This occurred nine years after they bombed former Yugoslavia without a mandate from the UN Security Council and annexed Serbian territory without any referendum.

When asked why they did all this, violating the country’s territorial integrity, the collective West claimed that this was different, and the right of nations to self-determination prevailed in this case.

5. Observing the principles outlined in the UN Charter is not like reading a menu at a restaurant.

It is crucial to fully and comprehensively implement these principles. The extensive discussions that take place within the UN serve as evidence that this is possible and would be fair. These discussions primarily revolve around determining which principle takes precedence: the principle of self-determination of nations, which is mentioned on the first page of the Charter, or the principle of territorial integrity, which appears on the subsequent pages.

The Charter itself does not establish a connection between these two principles. A special process for interpreting these and other principles of the Charter commenced shortly after the establishment of the UN. This process was completed after the active decolonisation efforts of the 1960s, which liberated the majority of former colonies and peoples. However, there are still approximately 15 countries that remain under the control of colonial powers, such as France and Britain, among others.

The UN General Assembly consistently demands the implementation of its resolutions on these issues. In 1970, during this process, UN members unanimously adopted the text of the Declaration on the Principles of International Law, which clarifies the relationship between territorial integrity and the self-determination of nations.

According to this declaration, every country must respect the territorial integrity of any state whose government upholds the principle of self-determination of nations. Consequently, it represents the entire population residing within a certain territory.

It is undeniable that after the bloody coup in February 2014, the ultra-reactionaries and neo-Nazis who came to power did not represent the Crimeans or the people of southeastern Ukraine. If each country adheres to international law, the principles outlined in the UN Charter can serve as a solid foundation for multipolarity."

Continues at:

https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1936760/

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Hard to argue any of that

[Norton]

It has long been known that British, French, and American instructors are operating in Ukraine, helping them service, load, and operate long-range and other types of systems that are provided to Ukraine in large quantities.

I was part of the deployment of 25,000 US combat troops sent to Da Nang back in 1965. Adding to the 25,000 "advisors" already there. History will repeat itself in Ukraine as it often has elsewhere.

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Who's the "Vietcong" this time then?

[Norton]

Who's the "Vietcong" this time then?

Commies. Same, same as back then..