Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

Zelinski's offshore accounts growing exponentially , making him a very very wealthy comedian.

You have any links to back up that bogus claim?

You forgot to mention Putin in your diatribe of bullshit.

He has on multiple occasions now shown his true colors. Clearly a ruzzian sympathizer at this point.

[harrybarracuda]

When all is said and done Ukraine and Russia will negotiate an end to aggression based in the same provisions offered at the beginning of the war. The only think this unfortunate incident in European history would have accomplished, would be .
The death of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians
The destruction of a beautiful country
The best bossiness the US military industrial complex had since the golf war.
The US slipping further into debt.
No universal healthy and other social programs because we cant afford them,
US firms enriching themselves from the reconstruction of Ukraine.
Zelinski's offshore accounts growing exponentially , making him a very very wealthy comedian.
And no of us seeing the effects of this in our lifetime .
Very sad very sad, but hey enjoy you war porn.

This is pretty retarded.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

You have any links to back up that bogus claim?

Do you have any links that my claims are bogus?

[Buckaroo Banzai]

You forgot to mention Putin in your diatribe of bullshit.

What is your opinion I should had said about Putin? And which part of my reply did you find "Bullshit"
--"When all is said and done Ukraine and Russia will negotiate an end to aggression based in the same provisions offered at the beginning of the war. "
--"The only think this unfortunate incident in European history would have accomplished, would be .
The death of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians "
-- "The destruction of a beautiful country "
-- "The best bossiness the US military industrial complex had since the golf war. "
-- "The US slipping further into debt. "
-- "No universal healthy and other social programs because we cant afford them, "
-- "US firms enriching themselves from the reconstruction of Ukraine. "
--"Zelinski's offshore accounts growing exponentially , making him a very very wealthy comedian. "
--"And non of us seeing the effects of this in our lifetime . "
--"Very sad very sad, but hey enjoy you war porn. "
Pick a card , any card.

[bsnub]

Do you have any links that my claims are bogus?

It doesn't work that way, bud. Make a statement like that in a court of law, and you would be laughed out of the building. I asked you if you had proof to back up your false accusations. Clearly you don't.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

It doesn't work that way, bud. Make a statement like that in a court of law, and you would be laughed out of the building. I asked you if you had proof to back up your false accusations. Clearly you don't.

"Ukrainian "anti-oligarch" President Volodymyr Zelensky and his inner circle's network of offshore companies were not exposed in Panama Papers but can be found in the Pandora Papers, another tranche of files leaked by journalists that revealed the clandestine financial affairs of the elite and super rich "
Comedy must pay pretty well in the Ukraine , but I for one am willing to offer him the benefit of doubt , perhaps he is now a reformed man and none of the billions that are funneled in Ukraine end up in his pockets.

[bsnub]

Comedy must pay pretty well in the Ukraine , but I for one am willing to offer him the benefit of doubt , perhaps he is now a reformed man and none of the billions that are funneled in Ukraine end up in his pockets.

Lots of people in have offshore accounts and the companies in question were formed in 2012 long before he was a politician. There is no evidence of wrongdoing. As usual, you parrot ruzzian propaganda. How is your pedo buddy Scott Ritter doing?

[Troy]

Comedy must pay pretty well in the Ukraine , but I for one am willing to offer him the benefit of doubt , perhaps he is now a reformed man and none of the billions that are funneled in Ukraine end up in his pockets.

Forbes refutes the allegations that Zelensky is, or ever was, a billionaire.
President Zelensky Is Not A Billionaire. So How Much Is He Worth?

You will need to provide stronger evidence to prove otherwise.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

How is your pedo buddy Scott Ritter doing?

My "pedo buddy Scott Ritter"? I will ask him next time I see him.
I can't believe I tried to engage you in a rational conversation.

[bsnub]

You will need to provide stronger evidence to prove otherwise.

Fat chance of that happening.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

[QUOTE=Troy;4499739]Forbes refutes the allegations that Zelensky is, or ever was, a billionaire.
President Zelensky Is Not A Billionaire. So How Much Is He Worth?

Please show me where I said he was a billionaire.I don't know any more than you do how much money he has, that's the purpose of offshore accounts.
His net worth estimate by Forbes is based on reported assets in Ukraine as reported by forbes Ukraine , Forbes has no way of knowing what he has or has not in secret foreign accounts.If it did it would not be secret.
By the way the same company that reported silicon valley bank 'America's Best Banks' right before it failed.
It was reported in the pandora papers that he had some secret offshore accounts, by no means the pandora papers revealed that those accounts were the only ones.
I would be very surprised playing the game that he does , if he does not come out of this doing very well. It would be very.very stupid of him being involved in the high stakes game that he is not to have an exit plan should it come to that.
I am sure the US is paying him very well for his involvement.

[harrybarracuda]

I can't believe I tried to engage you in a rational conversation.

You call that pile of bullshit you posted "rational conversation"?

Fucking hell, I'd be surprised if it didn't come straight from a Russian troll farm.

[pickel]

What is your opinion I should had said about Putin? And which part of my reply did you find "Bullshit"
--"When all is said and done Ukraine and Russia will negotiate an end to aggression based in the same provisions offered at the beginning of the war. "
--"The only think this unfortunate incident in European history would have accomplished, would be .
The death of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians "
-- "The destruction of a beautiful country "
-- "The best bossiness the US military industrial complex had since the golf war. "
-- "The US slipping further into debt. "
-- "No universal healthy and other social programs because we cant afford them, "
-- "US firms enriching themselves from the reconstruction of Ukraine. "
--"Zelinski's offshore accounts growing exponentially , making him a very very wealthy comedian. "
--"And non of us seeing the effects of this in our lifetime . "
--"Very sad very sad, but hey enjoy you war porn. "
Pick a card , any card.

Debating with you is like chasing your own tail. Your positions are full of holes, and when pointed out, you spew out more holes. It's boring and tedious.

None of the things in your post would have happened had Putin not invaded. Except for America's lacking health care system, as that is a constant.

Offshore accounts are not illegal, and there is a difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion. Now put up a link showing Zelensky is evading taxes. Putin is the one who has amassed a fortune through corruption, but that doesn't seem to bother you. Why is that?

[OhOh]

The ruzzians are going to have a hard time gassing up the Black Sea fleet.

Oh dear where will the "gas station" find further supplies ?

Out of 20+ storage tanks 2/3 appear to be damaged.

A link to a site where a handy images and comments are posted

One comment:

"DJI footage shows numerous charred tanks, but two near the center of the screen appear to have suffered severe structural damage that does NOT match the surrounding thermal damage other tanks experienced."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1652312516180201472

[Troy]

OhOh, your thread is over there ===========================>

A more informed report

[Backspin]

Biggest air strike of the war happening now.

17 Tu-95ms aircraft is already confirmed in the air. This is a bigger group than that created after the attack on the Crimea bridge. The Russian Navy is reported to have launched eleven ships and two underwater missile launchers into the Black Sea.

First results coming in. Pavlograd. Where Nato was staging the Ukr army.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Your positions are full of holes, and when pointed out, you spew out more holes

I must have missed where these "holes " were pointed out. Unless of course you consider calling me stupid blowing holes in my arguments. .
"Offshore accounts are not illegal, "
Straw man argument . I never said they were illegal. please show me where I said they were illegals?
But I am sure you can't do any of this,as you could not dispute any of the claims I made in my list and attempted to distract with your above bulshit reply .
Please note that I did not just call your reply Bulshit, I showed you why it is bulshit.

[pickel]

The biggest hole in your argument was omitting the cause of the things you mentioned, which is Putin.

Like I said, tedious and boring.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

You call that pile of bullshit you posted "rational conversation"?

Fucking hell, I'd be surprised if it didn't come straight from a Russian troll farm.

The only thing that is "Bulshit" is caling somethig bulshit without showing how it is so,
Call me paranoid but I suspect this is so because you can and you deflect by calling names,
all school yard tactics,
Grow Up.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

But this is on me.
what did I expect by going in the dog house.
The old saying stands true. "He who sleeps with dogs gets' fleas"

[pickel]

The only thing that is "Bulshit" is caling somethig bulshit without showing how it is so,

What made your post bullshit, was that it implied that the cause of the things you mentioned was the military industrial complex and a corrupt Ukrainian President.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

What made your post bullshit, was that it implied that the cause of the things you mentioned was the military industrial complex and a corrupt Ukrainian President.

So you are saying that The millinery industrial complex is not making a pretty penny out of this?
"The Military-Industrial Complex's Big Break in Ukraine "
The Military-Industrial Complex's Big Break in Ukraine - The American Conservative
And that the US has not paid off past leaders that played ball with them? and since they never have, why would I suspect they do now?

[pickel]

So you are saying that The millinery industrial complex is not making a pretty penny out of this?

Putin could have prevented that by not invading.

And that the US has not paid off past leaders that played ball with them? and since they never have, why would I suspect they do now?

Ukraine choosing to defend themselves from an illegal invasion is considered "playing ball" with the US? You're delusional.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Putin could have prevented that by not invading.

perhaps. but that's not the subject of this exchange , You are still deflecting.

Ukraine choosing to defend themselves from an illegal invasion is considered "playing ball" with the US? You're delusional.

Still deflecting.
Zelensky is Ukrainian but he is not Ukraine. The game played in the Ukraine by the Americans with the consent of Zelensky not only predates the invasion, but it is claimed by many, including me ,that it precipitated the event.

[pickel]

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And around and around we go. Woof woof.