Ukraine war mega thread

[pickel]

Yes, Bakhmut is very much on the front line- albeit we are talking about an 800 mile front. Why would I say otherwise?

Helge and I were talking about Bakhmut being on the front line, so maybe you should be telling helge to look at a map.

[sabang]

I think he was referring to not being in the line of fire. He never met the Commanding Officer there. It was a stage shoot, out of harms way. PR exercise, but fair enough.

[pickel]

I think he was referring to not being in the line of fire. He never met the Commanding Officer there. It was a stage shoot, out of harms way. PR exercise, but fair enough.

Are you allergic to the truth? Or is it the cheap wine?

Easy question, helge.

Is Bakhmut the front line.

No, Pickel

When will Putin make a visit?

[panama hat]

No point engaging with him.

It really negatively effects the credibility of the west in the non aligned world.

Seriously, backspit . . . stay with your ladyboy threads

[bsnub]

When will Putin make a visit?

Fat chance!

[helge]

Originally Posted by pickel
Easy question, helge.

Is Bakhmut the front line.

Originally Posted by helge No, Pickel

Low and weak there, Pickel

But to be expected

[OhOh]

23 Dec, 08:30No talks on security guarantees without recognition of true Ukrainian situation — diplomat

Alexander Darchiyev said Moscow had made "an honest attempt to come to terms" a year ago, "by putting on table two legally binding documents" on security guarantees with the United States and NATO



MOSCOW, December 23. /TASS/.

"No serious negotiations on security guarantees are possible as long as NATO instructors and mercenaries remain in Ukraine and unless the true situation on the country’s territory is recognized, a high-ranking Russian diplomat told TASS in an interview.


"It will be premature to launch any serious negotiations on security guarantees in the context of Ukraine and the Euro-Atlantic region as long as weapons and funds are being pumped into [Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky’s] regime, as long as US and NATO servicemen/mercenaries/instructors remain in the country and unless certain practical developments on the ground are recognized," said Alexander Darchiyev, the director of the Russian Foreign Ministry's North American Department.

"The ball is now in the US court."


The diplomat said Moscow had made "an honest attempt to come to terms" a year ago, "by putting on table two legally binding documents" on security guarantees with the United States and NATO. However, everything that Moscow heard in response was "categorical and arrogant ‘no,’" he said.


"As it turned out just a while ago, sweet-sounding Western assurances of having no aggressive intentions whatsoever and of being committed to the Minsk agreements disguised the effort to rearm the Ukrainian military and concentrate forces for retaking Donbass and destroying it," Darchiyev continued.

"Under those circumstances, we no longer trust the United States and the collective West".

No talks on security guarantees without recognition of true Ukrainian situation — diplomat - Russian Politics & Diplomacy - TASS

[bsnub]

Easy question, helge.

Is Bakhmut the front line.

What did you want? For him and the journalists to jump in the trenches currently being shelled?

Thanks.

No, Pickel

That is however how it has been portrayed.

And what BSNoob believes

Low and weak there, Pickel

But to be expected

Pretty clear-cut to me. What is low and weak is that you are trying to muddy the water. You are a disingenuous twat, like the rest of the useful idiots.

[Iceman123]

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Good post BB Ukraine for sure are the ball, however when that one bursts, the US has a new one called Taiwan.

Your comments as to Zelensky coming out of this a rich man, I think you will find he already is one. (Pandora papers) but please do not mention this as it does not suit the current US agenda.

The US has lost its place as supposed world’s peacekeeper.

We sort of forgave them after Vietnam, but ffs how many countries do they have to invade to convince any right minded person to see their true colours. We have to look past their propaganda, which I will accept is very good, but is not even an approximation of the truth.

[Iceman123]

Pretty clear-cut to me.

What is clear cut to me is that you are a congenital idiot, spouting off and a very good example of a completely one-eyed yank who does not have the nous to question his government’s agenda.

You have reduced your thought process to somehow thinking that this war is binary with a winner and loser.

It isn’t, Ukraine has been the biggest loser so far by a very wide margin, and anyone capable of critical thinking knows this.

You repeat your puerile nonsense ad infinitum. Like your politicians you will fight until the last Ukranian

Take a day off from the war you are only making a fool of yourself by continuing to vent your dense opinions.

[sabang]

"Forward" he cried, from the rear, and the front rank died.

[bsnub]

"Forward" he cried, from the rear, and the front rank died.

You must be quoting a Wagner commander ordering his convicts into the meat grinder.

You and your angry little lapdog ""Icebitch" are two of the most clueless propagandized morons on TD. A couple of useful idiots who could not be more completely clueless about this war. Both of you are serially wrong about almost everything since even before the war started, when you laughably claimed this war would never happen.

Soon the ground will freeze over and you two circus clowns will lose your tongues.

[sabang]

How appropriate this thread is in the Doghouse, and will soon be erased. Carry on little baby. Wake me up when the fable Ukrainian counter-offensive happens.

[bsnub]

[sabang]

Still no counter offensive then? ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz

[Iceman123]

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In fairness he probably meant when hell freezes over

[bsnub]

You two useful idiots have pathetically short memories. Let us not forget that I predicted the Kharkiv offensive as well as the liberation of Kherson. While you two clowns laughed and took the same kind of cheap potshots that you are taking now. You were made fools of in both instances.

[sabang]

Congress just passed a $45 billion assistance package for Kyiv on the way out the door for the holidays. We put this spending into context.

[Iceman123]

You two useful idiots have pathetically short memories. Let us not forget that I predicted the Kharkiv offensive as well as the liberation of Kherson. While you two clowns laughed and took the same kind of cheap potshots that you are taking now. You were made fools of in both instances.

Sounds like you are lying again. Cut it out or I will tell Santa and you will get fuck all for Xmas

[sabang]

Congress just passed a $45 billion assistance package for Kyiv on the way out the door for the holidays. We put this spending into context.

There are a variety of measures that can help to put this remarkable amount of U.S. taxpayer money into context. For starters, it’s more aid than the United States has supplied to any country in one year since at least the Vietnam War. It’s also far more than the $84 billion Russia is expected to spend on its military in 2023. In fact, U.S. assistance to Ukraine is more than every country in the world spends on its military, save for the United States and China. The $113 billion is also nearly as much as the omnibus bill allocates for baseline spending at the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security combined, and it’s almost as much as the $118.7 billion the United States will spend on medical care for all U.S. military veterans.

.... Perhaps most tellingly, if Ukraine were a U.S. state it would rank 11th in terms of the amount of federal funding it receives, according to government spending data. In other words, in the past 12 months Ukraine has been awarded more U.S. taxpayer dollars than 40 U.S. states.


FULL- https://responsiblestatecraft.org/20...get-in-a-year/

[David48atTD]

and you will get fuck all for Xmas

I'd dream of a fuck all for Christmas (just don't tell the cheese and kisses)

[bsnub]

Sounds like you are lying again. Cut it out or I will tell Santa and you will get fuck all for Xmas

You are a pathetic moron. There are plenty of posters who can corroborate what I said. You two clowns are really on a desperate rampage tonight. Funny that you two are so hateful and angry on Christmas Eve. Such sad, pathetic little men.

Some of the angry spittle induced shit you posted back then...

Says the man who claims Ukraine is winning

Yep I am on the side of reality, and unfortunately Ukraine are losing.

Now when are you going to accept the reality that Ukraine are not winning.

the Ukraine has virtually no chance against a superior force in numbers and equipment.

Who’s winning now on planet Bsnub?

here on earth Ukraine are losing for sure.

I will repeat to try to get it to sink in “Russia is winning”

What a pathetic clown.

[Iceman123]

^
Now you are exposing yourself further as a dimwit and a liar.

Just where exactly did mention Kharkiv or Kherson in any of those posts?


Stop lying your getting dafter by the minute

[sabang]

You two clowns are really on a desperate rampage tonight

Projecting some?

[Iceman123]

Tesla, Grindr, close contacts in Ukraine. The snubski chimp is totally detached from reality