Ukraine war mega thread

[sabang]

So what do you think they were doing, Dippy? Do elaborate.

If I told ya, I'd have to kill ya.

[misskit]

RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, DECEMBER 13

Belarusian forces remain unlikely to attack Ukraine despite a snap Belarusian military readiness check on December 13. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko ordered a snap comprehensive readiness check of the Belarusian military on December 13. The exercise does not appear to be cover for concentrating Belarusian and/or Russian forces near jumping-off positions for an invasion of Ukraine. It involves Belarusian elements deploying to training grounds across Belarus, conducting engineering tasks, and practicing crossing the Neman and Berezina rivers (which are over 170 km and 70 km away from the Belarusian-Ukrainian border, respectively).[1] Social media footage posted on December 13 showed a column of likely Belarusian infantry fighting vehicles and trucks reportedly moving from Kolodishchi (just east of Minsk) toward Hatava (6km south of Minsk).[2] Belarusian forces reportedly deployed 25 BTR-80s and 30 trucks with personnel toward Malaryta, Brest (about 15 km from Ukraine) on December 13.[3] Russian T-80 tanks reportedly deployed from the Obuz-Lesnovsky Training Ground in Brest, Belarus, to the Brest Training Ground also in Brest (about 30 km from the Belarusian-Ukrainian Border) around December 12.[4] Russia reportedly deployed three MiG-31K interceptors to the Belarusian airfield in Machulishchy on December 13.[5] These deployments are likely part of ongoing Russian information operations suggesting that Belarusian conventional ground forces might join Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.[6] ISW has written at length about why Belarus is extraordinarily unlikely to invade Ukraine in the foreseeable future.[7]

Ukrainian officials continue to assess that Belarus is unlikely to attack Ukraine as of December 13. The Ukrainian General Staff reiterated on December 13 that the situation in northern Ukraine near Belarus has not significantly changed and that Ukrainian authorities still have not detected Russian forces forming strike groups in Belarus.[8] The Ukrainian State Border Guard Service reported that the situation on the border with Belarus is under control despite recent Belarusian readiness checks.[9]


Russian milbloggers accused the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) of engaging in performative "excessive reporting" instead of addressing systemic issues with the Russian military and Russian operations in Ukraine. A prominent Russian milblogger discussed the "vicious practice of photo reports" in the Russian military and noted that Russian soldiers are often made to dress in statutory uniforms and appear on camera to propagate a sense of preparedness and professionalism instead of actually preparing for combat missions.[10] The milblogger emphasized that such demonstrations are purely theatrical and create a false sense of coherency in the Russian Armed Forces without actually addressing substantive issues with logistics, communications, and basic provision of units.[11] Several other milbloggers amplified this discussion and accused Russian authorities of engaging in "excessive reporting" in order to inundate the information space with photo and video artifacts that aim to "justify the existence" of the Russian MoD and create a guise of success for Russian operations in Ukraine.[12] One source emphasized its discontent with such "excessive reporting" and called the Russian MoD "the Ministry of Camouflage and Selfies."[13] Russian milbloggers continue to leverage their platforms and notoriety to launch nuanced critiques at the Russian MoD in a way that continues to indicate a growing rift between the bureaucratic practices of the MoD and the realities faced by Russian soldiers on the ground and reported on by a slate of Russian military correspondents. Such discourse allows prominent voices in the nationalist information space to advocate for substantive change while undermining the MoD establishment.

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 13 | Institute for the Study of War

[harrybarracuda]

So when a LTGEN refers to "high risk, covert ops" of a "hugely sensitive" nature, you reckon he is referring to babysitting Embassy staff? Beyond sad. But I appreciate you were never a commando.

You're an utter fucking moron.

[sabang]

As the whole Forum knows bitter 'arry, you were never anything.

[harrybarracuda]

As the whole Forum knows bitter 'arry, you were never anything.

Started on it early today eh?

[sabang]

Actually I am enjoying a bottle of white at a Japanese restaurant. Which has a lot to do with Ukraine.

[Norton]

Mr. Zuma's. Nice.

kiev japanese restaurant - Google Search

[Shutree]

Mr. Zuma's. Nice.

Must be a distant cousin of that Mexican restaurateur, Mocte Zuma.

[HermantheGerman]

When even General Wesley Clark is alluding to the....

Congratulations ! You have beaten skidmark and you are definitely the biggest idiot on this thread.

But it's all been gone through before, do you ever tire of repeating yourself?

If you can't find anything news worthy just shut the fu** up.

[helge]

^


Not to keen on taking your own advice ?

[OhOh]

No movies of real WW1 style trench warfare allowed, in a thread where trench warfare videos are posted, it appears.

C'st la vie

[Hugh Cow]

The Belarussian Army couldnt couldnt invade a mothers club meeting. Lukashenko spends all the money on internal police to keep the population from kicking his ilegal Ass out of office. The army is badly under equipped and the Ukrainians would use them for target practice. They are useful to Putin only to distract some of the Ukrainian forces away from russian occupied regions which he is desperate to do, otherwise he would be getting a bigger ass whoopen' than he is already getting. If the russian soldiers were any good he wouldn't have the Wagner group fighting in place of the regular army, that's obvious. Well at least to some. Still they do have the convict brigade. Hope the new russian recruits bought a winter uniform as well as a summer one at the army disposal shop before they left Moscow for the front.

[helge]

They are useful to Putin only to distract some of the Ukrainian forces away from russian occupied regions

That'll be it

If the russian soldiers were any good he wouldn't have the Wagner group fighting in place of the regular army, that's obvious.

You can say that

"Private contractors" are being and have been used by "others" also

I reckon that AUS might have some too

[bsnub]

[sabang]

If the russian soldiers were any good he wouldn't have the Wagner group fighting in place of the regular army, that's obvious.

So what does that say about amerkin soldiers? Or is it different when the Pentagon hires cowboy mercenaries like Blackwater?

[helge]

Or is it different when the Pentagon hires cowboy mercenaries like Blackwater?

Hmm

I have the feeling, that you aren't quite aware of the rules on TD

When you post that, it's called 'whataboutisme' or 'off topic' and Hugh Cow will get away with his postulates.

Different rules for different posters




Nevermind

[sabang]

Awkwardly for them, the posters in question don't make the rules. But they would love to.

[HermantheGerman]

Good to watch

[HermantheGerman]

...and now we know why Putler and Sabang don't like him.

[HermantheGerman]

Hmm

I have the feeling, that you aren't quite aware of the rules on TD

When you post that, it's called 'whataboutisme' or 'off topic' and Hugh Cow will get away with his postulates.

Different rules for different posters




Nevermind

Then go voice your opinion at:

TASS Russian News Agency

[helge]

Yes

'Fuck off' and 'shut up' has always been your only argument, lieber Herman

[HermantheGerman]

Yes

'Fuck off' and 'shut up' has always been your only argument, lieber Herman

Does yes mean that we won't have to read your tall tales anymore, Lieber Hans Christian Andersen?

[helge]

You never "had" to, mein lieber Heino

[harrybarracuda]

Actually I am enjoying a bottle of white at a Japanese restaurant. Which has a lot to do with Ukraine.

The fact that you're posting on here suggests it's more likely that you're drinking white spirits hidden in a brown paper bag you got from your last Grab delivery.

[sabang]

Why, is that what you all do? I am at an Indian restaurant now, but nearly finished.