Ukraine war mega thread

[harrybarracuda]

The pandemic really does skew all the numbers in those years making the comparisons nearly meaningless. Give it a few

How does it do that then?

You're not suggesting puffy might be lying about Covid deaths are you?

[russellsimpson]

Originally Posted by russellsimpson
The pandemic really does skew all the numbers in those years making the comparisons nearly meaningless. Give it a few
How does it do that then?

You're not suggesting puffy might be lying about Covid deaths are you?

Pretty much all statistics will be skewed for the years of the pandemic, just a fact and not directed at either side.

Next years numbers will be far more telling.

Both sides lie Harry to make themselves look good, war or no war.

[harrybarracuda]

Pretty much all statistics will be skewed for the years of the pandemic, just a fact and not directed at either side.

Next years numbers will be far more telling.

Both sides lie Harry to make themselves look good, war or no war.

And to add to that we have you posting your nonsense.

[misskit]

The pandemic really does skew all the numbers in those years making the comparisons nearly meaningless. Give it a few years.


The Soviet Union ended in 2021?

All very confusing MK.

Not really confusing at all. I reckon you read that sentence again more slowly.

[sabang]

YOU KNOW IT IS GETTING BAD FOR UKRAINE WHEN PBS DISPUTES THE PROPAGANDA

27 July 2022 by Larry Johnson 27 Comments


Fortunately, I was sitting down when I saw the following video. I had an easier fall to the floor from the sitting position then if I had been standing upright. This is a genuine stunner. A reporter for the PUBLIC BROADCAST SYSTEM– let me repeat that, a PBS reporter on the ground in Ukraine and reporting from the Ukraine side of the fightin –blows up the Ukrainian propaganda that Russia was shelling civilian targets during the sustained bombardments. This is akin to Rachel Maddow admitting the Joe Biden is the Big Guy and on the take from the Chinese. Whoops!

The PBS Newshour (formerly as McNeil/Lehrer back in the old days) is the bastion of Deep State propaganda. As the catechism is to Catholics, the PBS Newshour is to Democrats. So what happened in Ukraine that has caused this shill of the Deep State to do real journalism? The reporter debunks the Ukrainian claim that Russia hit a civilian apartment building. He notes the smell of dead bodies and cites a source stating that the bodies pulled out of this smoldering rubble were soldiers. As he trashes the Ukraine claim he shows video of military shoes, uniforms and decals scattered in the piles of stone and twisted iron.

Take a look:
(Follow the Link)

This is NOT Russian propaganda. This is a certified member of the Mainstream Media. He is Deep State approved. And he decides that now is a good time to expose a lie by Ukrainian authorities? This is not an accident. I see it as a signal that the Washington establishment’s enthusiasm for this war and their optimism that Ukraine will prevail is slipping. Remember, PBS depends almost entirely on funding from Uncle Joe Biden, Cousin Chuck Schumer and Aunt Nancy Pelosi. (At this point I must insert Sly and the Family Stone’s super tune, “It is a Family Affair.)

I know I am criticized in some sectors as being a mouthpiece for Putin. Those who believe that would you help me out? Get in touch with Mr. Putin and let him know I am not getting paid. If I am going to be a mouthpiece for someone I damn skippy want to get paid.
Here is the alternative. I do not believe one thing that Joe Biden and his corrupt National Security team have to say about anything. Not one. He is beholden to China (fully bought and paid for). Biden wants the American taxpayer to spend billions enabling a proxy to fight Russia while murder rates in America’s biggest cities soar and our southern border is wide open to a veritable Tsunami of illegal aliens and illegal narcotics that are killing Americans. If you are mad at me for saying to Biden, Let’s Go Brandon, then I can only assume you side with the Biden crime family.

https://sonar21.com/you-know-it-is-getting-bad-for-ukraine-when-pbs-disputes-the-propaganda/

[pickel]

^
When emails first appeared were you part of the Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd group?

[sabang]

Did you watch the footage? Some 'apartment building'.

[pickel]

If you learned how to properly embed links in a post, I might have actually looked at it. Though I would have probably still considered it bullshit, judging from your posting history.

[sabang]

So now PBS is commie propaganda.

[misskit]

^ You didn’t know? Ask any conservative.

[pickel]

You didn’t know? Ask any conservative.

He now claims to be a Republican too, but has no clue.

[misskit]

It would have gone along way if Sabang had posted the actual PBS report and commented on what was reported. Instead, he posts a meaningless screed from a whack a doodle. Then again, Sabang loves the whackadoodles these days which had lead me to believe he has become one himself.

[bsnub]

Sabang loves the whackadoodles these days which had lead me to believe he has become one himself.

He went full on nutter sometime ago.

[sabang]

Anything to avoid having to admit the Ukrainians have been caught out lying again, right?

[misskit]

No. You could have just posted the PBS report and made that point. PBS isn’t doing the government’s bid, they are doing their job. All that stuff about this being the turning point, PBS is fully Deep State, yadayadayada, is a whackadoodle’s opinion, not a fact.

[harrybarracuda]

No. You could have just posted the PBS report and made that point. PBS isn’t doing the government’s bid, they are doing their job. All that stuff about this being the turning point, PBS is fully Deep State, yadayadayada, is a whackadoodle’s opinion, not a fact.

Fact isn't something with which sabang is familiar.

All he posts is propaganda bullshit.

[bsnub]

All he posts is propaganda bullshit.

This!

[sabang]

The PBS segment is in the Link provided. I can't copy it here directly because it is in 'Rumble' format, whatever that is. No problem to copy a Youtube video though.
You will very clearly see, compliments of PBS, that the Ukrainians have been caught telling porkies again. But you come to expect that.

[misskit]

Here it is in its entirety

[misskit]

Wasn’t that easy? Or is news too black and white?

[sabang]

Well done for finding it on Youtube MK- the relevant bit starts at the 1:45 mark. Now, back to these 'Rumble' vids- is there any way to copy them here, or do we have to do a kitty and laboriously search for the same content on Youtube?

Catty's latest musings-

Western powers aren't censoring Russian media to protect our minds from Russian propaganda, they are censoring Russian media because it interferes with western propaganda.
If we were being told the truth about this war there wouldn't be such a wildly unprecedented push to censor, intimidate, troll and silence anyone who asks if we're being lied to.

Hawks always say our geopolitical situation resembles that of 1938 so that any call for de-escalation, diplomacy or detente can be portrayed as "appeasement". It's never 1919, when the conditions which would give rise to World War Two were put in place, or any of the early 20th century years when the trajectory toward World War One could have easily been turned away from.

Our fetishization of World War Two has eclipsed from memory the fact that it was the single worst thing that ever happened on this planet. The trauma it inflicted upon our species still reverberates through our collective consciousness to this day, and avoiding it would have been objectively good.

Even if we fully espouse all the grandiose ego-stroking Anglo-American narratives about WWII, you don't want to have a modern Churchill and FDR bravely standing against the forces of evil. What you want is for such a stand to be unnecessary, because the conflict was avoided.

But that's not how you score political points in Washington and London. That's not how you pull ratings as a news outlet. That's not how you sell weapons as an arms manufacturer, and it's not how you advance hegemonic agendas as an empire. That's why peace doesn't get a voice.

And, oh yeah, did I mention there are fucking nuclear weapons now? Even the dumbest of warmongers should want to postpone reenacting their favorite Hollywood WWII movies in the modern world, because it's impossible to win a world war now. Stop buying this "it's 1938" bullshit. It's nothing like 1938, and a massive conflict can most definitely be avoided.

Like the Tao Te Ching says:

Prevent trouble before it arises.
Put things in order before they exist.
The giant pine tree
grows from a tiny sprout.
The journey of a thousand miles
starts from beneath your feet.

Or as we say in the west, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Caitlin Johnstone

[bsnub]

Here is a current real time battlefront analysis from a US combat veteran. His maps and insights from a ground level snipers' perspective are very concise. I have accelerated the video clip directly to the maps, which start at 9:19 minutes for those dimwits that complained...

[bsnub]

Caitlin Johnstone

Another one for your stupid clown car.

[sabang]

The average, intelligent reader will of course have read and digested the content. Takes all of 60 seconds. But not the....

[sabang]

This is the closest I've found to an objective analysis re the counter-offensive near Kherson-

Putin Won’t Like This: Could Ukraine Really Take Back Kherson?


Putin Won't Like This: Could Ukraine Really Take Back Kherson? - 19FortyFive