Ukraine war mega thread

[sabang]

Down the road a bit, maybe.

[bsnub]

We might want to catch up a bit in space technology too.

Wrong. SpaceX is at the front of space technology. The west does not need Vlad to take a ride into space, nor the Chinese.

[bsnub]

HAHAHAHAAAA....

[bsnub]

Excellent vid of intercepted phone calls and cell phone video. Incredible watch! Be sure to turn on the closed captions.

[harrybarracuda]

The full text of Boris Bondarev's letter of resignation. I'm sure many Russians feel the same way but are afraid to say so for fear of reprisals.

[David48atTD]

^ I hope his Family is out of Russia and he has options to live outside of Russia.

[Hugh Cow]

The full text of Boris Bondarev's letter of resignation. I'm sure many Russians feel the same way but are afraid to say so for fear of reprisals.

Sabang and Oh will be along shortly to explain how he was a member of a CIA sleeper cell for the last 20 years.

[hallelujah]

^ I hope his Family is out of Russia and he has options to live outside of Russia.

I'd imagine the likes of MI5 etc will already have been in touch, given the information that he'll be able to provide.

Just not Salisbury this time, eh?

[bsnub]

Maybe the Brits will put him up in one of the mansions seized from the oligarchs.

[bsnub]

Here is your daily battlefield update...

[bsnub]

Russian tanks go boom...

[harrybarracuda]

They seem to do that a lot. Not sure if it's a good thing, because it means Russia's military is so shit that in the event of a proper war with the West they'd move straight to nukes.

[OhOh]

Oh will be along shortly

Requesting a link, to the source of his post.

[OhOh]

The full text of Boris Bondarev's letter of resignation.

Allegedly "he has been there for years, no date on the letter, all the other Senior Counsellor and Counsellors are named and have wiki pages.

Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the United Nations Office in Geneva

• Home
• Permanent Mission
• Activities
• Statеments & Speeches
• Our partners in Geneva
• Useful links

No "person" of that name appears here:

Structure

https://geneva.mid.ru/web/geneva_en/structure

The mission could of course have deleted any reference to "him".

9 "references" at "his" wiki page.

First wiki page "reference" dated 22nd May 2022. All others, 23rd May 2022 or 24th May 2022.

Boris Bondarev

"Boris Bondarev (Russian: Борис Бондарев) (b. 1980)^[1] is a former Russian diplomat who worked for the Russian permanent mission to the United Nations Office at Geneva in Switzerland from 2019 until his resignation in May 2022 in protest over the Russian invasion of Ukraine."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Bondarev

It appears wiki is considering deleting the page.

"This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.

Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's deletion discussion page.Feel free to improve the article, but do not remove this notice before the discussion is closed and do not blank the page. For more information, read the guide to deletion."

Possibly another fake Ukrainian "ghost" hero.

^ I hope his Family is out of Russia and he has options to live outside of Russia.

Oh will be along shortly

Just not Salisbury this time, eh?

put him up in one of the mansions

"доверяй, но проверяй"

[harrybarracuda]

Oh dear it appears to have hoohoo in a right fucking tizzy.

[David48atTD]

Oh dear it appears to have hoohoo in a tizzy.

But he's right, outside sources have to have links, otherwise any old crap could be posted up as a 'fact'.

Anyone got a link for that letter/image?

[bsnub]

Anyone got a link for that letter/image?

Do your own homework, it is literally all over the interwebs. Ohdoh is just a tedious waste of space.

[pickel]

But he's right, outside sources have to have links, otherwise any old crap could be posted up as a 'fact'.

Anyone got a link for that letter/image?

Russian diplomat quits over war in Ukraine - BBC News

[Switch]

Russian diplomat quits over war in Ukraine - BBC News

Putin told them to take the announcement down?

[harrybarracuda]

But he's right, outside sources have to have links, otherwise any old crap could be posted up as a 'fact'.

Anyone got a link for that letter/image?

This is Speakers Corner, can you not read?

[OhOh]

My apologies to all regarding the resignation of one of it's diplomats.

Russia has confirmed one has indeed confirmed:

24 May, 23:15

Kremlin spokesman says diplomat who quit service over Ukraine is "against us"

Boris Bondarev, who was a counsellor at Russia’s UN mission in Geneva since 2019, resigned because of his disagreement with Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine.

"MOSCOW, May 24. /TASS/. Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov has offered a comment on the recent resignation of a counsellor at Russia’s permanent mission to the UN in Geneva, Boris Bondarev, because of his disagreement with Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine. "He is not with us, he is against us," Peskov said. "Mr. Bondarev is no longer with us. He is rather against us," Peskov told the media on Tuesday. "He is critical of the Russian leadership’s policies, which are supported by practically the whole population of our country. Consequently, this gentleman has come out against our country’s consolidated opinion."

Peskov said that the Kremlin had not studied the diplomat’s open letter explaining the reasons behind his decision and advised the media to turn to the Foreign Ministry for further comment on this score.
Bondarev declared his resignation on LinkedIn (a social network outlawed in Russia) and confirmed it to a number of foreign mass media outlets. He has served at Russia’s Foreign Ministry since 2002. Since 2019 he has been a counsellor at Russia’s UN mission in Geneva".

https://tass.com/politics/1455285


Quick work by the office in deleting his presence as was my first thought:

The mission could of course have deleted any reference to "him".

Ambiguous wiki and slow head office confirmation.

Not hungry, but this is on the turntable to enjoy later:

[OhOh]

Ohdoh is just a tedious waste of space.

https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/

"All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting."

[Buckaroo Banzai]

"Henry Kissinger, Noam Chomsky Find Rare Common Ground Over Ukraine War "
"The two come from opposing ends of the political spectrum—Kissinger serving as secretary of state under Republican presidents and Chomsky one of the leading left-wing intellectuals in the United States—and have frequently clashed.

But when it comes to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, both recently advocated for Ukraine to consider a settlement that could see it dropping claim to some land to achieve a quicker peace deal. "
Henry Kissinger, Noam Chomsky Find Rare Common Ground Over Ukraine War

[David48atTD]

Has this guy got a point?

Do ban Russian oil/gas ... tax it instead.

I assume he means a tariff (English isn't his first language) ... it makes Russian oil/gas uncompetitive in a global market.

Also remove Russia from OPEC +



He must be a decent speaker as he's at the World Economic Forum in Davos

[OhOh]

He must be a decent speaker as he's at the World Economic Forum in Davos

Anything is possible these days, however being a Harvard "voice" may have some influence on his views.

Rusian oil is being purchased and supplied to many countries. Whether the oil and gas is derived from Russian, but the "paper work", on delivery states it's from .... I'll leave it to you to determine. I suggest you look at the Greek shipping industry as one EU voice.

[QUOTE=David48atTD;4397955][QUOTE=David48atTD;4397955]Russian oil/gas uncompetitive in a global market.

To take one country as an example, Germany, EU. They have enjoyed a prosperous decade or two by buying Russian energy products. Without the favourable pricing, their "edge" diminishes. This will lead to unprofitable coumpanies moving their production abroad. An example is Audi, and others, expanding their production to overseas countries. To the detriment of German auto-makers, employees and German GDP.

This will only grow if say more German companies want to survive. You may want to check the German industrialists already suggesting they cannot survive, in Germany, if the unelected EU masters pursue imposing more energy import sanctions on Russia.

As for oil pricing it is, currently, on the spot market:

Oil (Brent) LIVE QUOTE

Last 111.83 USD				+/- -2.01	% -1.77%
Trade Time 04:42:24 AM				Previous Close 113.84

Here is a link to the current price:

Crude Oil Price Today | BRENT OIL PRICE CHART | OIL PRICE PER BARREL | Markets Insider

The graph show on an annual basis an increase from US$45 to US$110+. Reportedly, Russian oil costs US$30 to produce. It appears that OPEC would disagree at reducing their price to those levels

There are requests that Norway subsidises sales of it's gas to EU countries. Norway replies, "on your bike".

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

This guy, another World Economic Forum in Davos, presumably "educated person", is suggesting "sharing with the community", presumable as defined by him and his unaccountable colleges.

As opposed to a country's citizens and, through democratic elections, its elected governments.