Ukraine war mega thread

[sabang]

I like that idea.

[Joe 90]

I like that idea.

That's what's happening here in the UK.

So I guess Putin can get on with his final solution for Ukraine.

[Joe 90]

In my local village dozens of residents have enrolled and signed up for the scheme.
Good on them if they have the space in their homes to accommodate.

Me personally, I would have preferred a direct air strike on the Kremlin!
But then again that has far reaching implications and repercussions.

[panama hat]

Oh yawn. Why do we have to waste our time on such petulant children-

Because 'adults' like you simply lie

Lenin-Stalin-Soi Dog Czar = hold the sad world record of killings.

A blot compared to Mao's Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution and others in China under the Communists. 100 million plus . . .

[sabang]

Seems a commonsensical approach to helping with the refugee crisis to me. Lets see what the take up is. Might be an idea for Australia too.

[sabang]

I showed that Chinese development aid is the largest in Absolute terms of any world nation PH, even compared it to the USA as second largest development aid donor. Link also provided. If that is what you call a lie, I can see why everyone I knew when I worked in Sydney preferred Scots to Cranbrook.

[panama hat]

Me personally, I would have preferred a direct air strike on the Kremlin!

Seems a commonsensical approach to helping with the refugee crisis to me.

Finally something sensible from you

[Switch]

^^ Attacking hostile arms convoys & deliveries, within Ukrainian borders, is certainly not an illegal act in war and it's a bit rich to describe it as a provocation tbh. Natospeak. [Edit] Not like the West doesn't already know this anyway, but clockwork timing-


Arms shipments are a legitimate military target, Kremlin warns west



Russia has said it will treat arms shipments to Ukraine from Nato countries as “legitimate targets” for military action in a dangerous new escalation of tensions.

Full Article- Arms shipments are a legitimate military target, Kremlin warns west (msn.com)


Of course hostile arms shipments are legitimate targets, in a war zone. No amount of sanctimonious squealing changes that fact.

Do you really expect the west to do nothing, and allow Putin’s War carte blanche to do as they please? I’m sure that any western nation supplying defensive munitions will ensure deniability on the ground. Consider the capital Putin could make of it if westerners were directly involved on foreign soil. Putin has already besmirched the civil population, so it wouldn’t take much to set up a media coups if he is given the chance.

[Norton]

Russia has said it will treat arms shipments to Ukraine from Nato countries as “legitimate targets” for military action in a dangerous new escalation of tensions.

Oh please let it happen! If you think you have problems now, hit them hard Putin. Will be a quick "turn out the lights the party's over" for you and your cabal.

[sabang]

Don't see what that has to do the the fact that hostile arms shipments within a declared war zone are indeed a valid military target switch.

[Switch]

Don't see what that has to do the the fact that hostile arms shipments within a declared war zone are indeed a valid military target switch.

Asked and answered - but blatantly ignored by you?

If the driver of a truck carrying western arms is a Pole or a Brit, what has Putin achieved by destroying the truck and it’s driver? Putin will probably punish the Russian soldier who did it, destroying any evidence.

[Joe 90]

If the driver of a truck carrying western arms is a Pole or a Brit, what has Putin achieved by destroying the truck and it’s driver? Putin will probably punish the Russian soldier who did it, destroying any evidence.

Fvcked up beyond belief but true.

[Switch]

Don't see what that has to do the the fact that hostile arms shipments within a declared war zone are indeed a valid military target switch.

I never denied that it was a valid target. Just implied that the west will have deniability, and Putin blinkers miss another trick. There is stupid on both sides because it’s complicated by Putins paranoia.

[Norton]

I showed that Chinese development aid is the largest in Absolute terms of any world nation PH, even compared it to the USA as second largest development aid donor. Link also provided. If that is what you call a lie, I can see why everyone I knew when I worked in Sydney preferred Scots to Cranbrook.

That's nice but to bring us back to the topic, China $791,465 worth of humanitarian aid to Ukraine. The US, $53 million in additional humanitarian assistance no the way. This in addition to the already given $159 million in overall humanitarian assistance to Ukraine since October 2020.

[sabang]

Well look switch, if a pole or a brit enters a war zone carrying hostile arnaments, he is nothing more than an enemy combatant. No different to poles, brits or whomever fighting with one of the far Right militias there. Enemy combatants. They aren't going to check their passport before engaging them. It would be, to state the bleedin' obvious, no different if the situation were reversed. Kazakhs or whomever fighting with Russian forces are enemy combatants to the Ukrainians also.

^ I rather doubt foreigners will cross the border into a war zone with arms shipments anyway- they will deliver them to the border, or nearby (IMHO). But just saying like. I suppose, there is a possibility that foreign mercenaries might be employed for this- but they are fair game once in the war zone, and know it.

[misskit]

Would the arms not be brought up to the border of Ukraine on the western side where there are no Russian troops?

[sabang]

Well, whoever might know that would not be able to tell you. I doubt they would come in khaki truck convoys labelled 'Nato missiles'.

[Switch]

Would the arms not be brought up to the border of Ukraine on the western side where there are no Russian troops?

Once those munitions are on Ukrainian soil, their threat to Putins illegal war makes them a target.

[Switch]

That's nice but to bring us back to the topic, China $791,465 worth of humanitarian aid to Ukraine. The US, $53 million in additional humanitarian assistance no the way. This in addition to the already given $159 million in overall humanitarian assistance to Ukraine since October 2020.

In Sabang mind, love (for Putin and China) is blind.

[sabang]

I doubt China will even near compete with US aid (or even Nato) in the Ukraine currently norts, and it most certainly will not include 'lethal aid'. But aid there will be, and more forthcoming imho. Hey, I will see what I can find out. China will not be drawn on condemning the Russian invasion, obviously. It will not allow itself to be perceived as even taking a side.

^ Love may be blind, but food is needed.

[misskit]

^ I would think so. Then I am not getting why that even deserves a threat from Putin.

[Norton]

I doubt China will even near compete with US aid (or even Nato) in the Ukraine currently norts, and it most certainly will not include 'lethal aid'

Agree. Russia has asked for military aid but sure will be left to private companies like Norinco.

[misskit]

How will China get arms to Russia?

[Norton]

How will China get arms to Russia?

Fedex is good.

[sabang]

Those bloody Rothxilds. Makin' money from both sides.