Ukraine war mega thread

[harrybarracuda]

Mercenaries now?

What nonsense are you trying to spout now?

Chechen warlord Ramzan Kadyrov has bragged that Ukrainian forces are “fleeing” when they come face to face with his fighters, amid claims civilians are being slaughtered in their homes.
Reports suggest that Chechen troops could play a key role in a Russian push to seize Kyiv, alongside mercenaries from Russia’s shadowy private Wagner Group.
Both Chechen forces and Wagner mercenaries have previously been accused of committing war crimes and atrocities.

Chechen paramilitaries, fighting in Ukraine in support of Russia'''s invasions, accused of killing civilians

[Buckaroo Banzai]

What nonsense are you trying to spout now?


Chechen paramilitaries, fighting in Ukraine in support of Russia'''s invasions, accused of killing civilians

Do they also have WMDs and are throwing babies on the floor while stealing the incubators to take back home ?
The point is any of what is reported about the Ukraine might or might not be true.
Who knows. we certainly don't.
Misinformation to shape public sentiment and support has being used in the past, Why cant it be used now?

[pickel]

Misinformation to shape public sentiment and support has being used in the past, Why cant it be used now?

It's much harder to do now as everybody has a camera on their phone and open source documentation can easily disprove those narratives. Which is exactly why Russia has a media firewall to block their citizens from seeing it.

[pickel]

It is?? them why all the other headlines, are they not part of the narrative? or am I imagining them?

Which other headlines? That Putin wants to restore the Soviet Union?

You can hear it right here from Putin's top propagandist:

[David48atTD]

You can read the whole article HERE but below are a few excerpts from the article.

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Russia's military is out of its depth in Ukraine. Was Putin kept in the dark about its weaknesses?

In March 2017, Commander of the Russian Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov wrote an article about how the Russian military was being transformed so they could fight "war in modern conditions".

The article provided an update on his now seminal 2013 article on modern warfare, which many in the West mischaracterised as the "Gerasimov Doctrine".

Perhaps the most interesting part of his 2017 article — and ironic for the Russian military forces — is this passage:

"It must be remembered that victory is always achieved not only by the material, but also by the spiritual resources of the people, by their unity and desire to oppose aggression with all their might."

Was Putin kept in the dark?

Like recent revelations about falsified intelligence on Ukraine, the President of Russia was probably kept in the dark about deficiencies in the Russian military.
If Putin had invested hundreds of billions of dollars in the military over the previous decade, who was going to tell him it wasn't working?



Underinvesting in ground forces

A second problem may be that the Russians got the balance of investment in different military services wrong.
US scholar Michael Kofman has written that the overall focus of Russian military development from 2008 to 2014 "was to counter Western advantages in air power … To this end, much of the investment initially did not go towards Russian ground forces".
Getting the balance of investment in land, air, maritime, cyber and information domains wrong can have catastrophic consequences.



Learning the wrong lessons

A final insight from Russian military transformation is learning the right lessons from operations.
Gerasimov made much of the lessons from Syria. He has described how Russia had acquired "priceless combat experience in Syria".
Despite this emphasis on Syria, the Russians appear to have taken away many wrong lessons.
The war in Syria was an intervention at the invitation of a host government to suppress the population.

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About the Author ...

Mick Ryan is a strategist and recently retired Australian Army major general. He served in East Timor, Iraq and Afghanistan, and as a strategist on the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff. His first book, War Transformed, is about 21st-century warfare.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Which other headlines? That Putin wants to restore the Soviet Union?

You can hear it right here from Putin's top propagandist:

Where did he say that they wanted to restore the soviet union?

[pickel]

Where did he say that they wanted to restore the soviet union?

Are you looking for a direct quote? Do you understand what inference means?

[Backspin]

You can read the whole article HERE but below are a few excerpts from the article.

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Russia's military is out of its depth in Ukraine. Was Putin kept in the dark about its weaknesses?

In March 2017, Commander of the Russian Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov wrote an article about how the Russian military was being transformed so they could fight "war in modern conditions".

The article provided an update on his now seminal 2013 article on modern warfare, which many in the West mischaracterised as the "Gerasimov Doctrine".

Perhaps the most interesting part of his 2017 article — and ironic for the Russian military forces — is this passage:

"It must be remembered that victory is always achieved not only by the material, but also by the spiritual resources of the people, by their unity and desire to oppose aggression with all their might."

Was Putin kept in the dark?

Like recent revelations about falsified intelligence on Ukraine, the President of Russia was probably kept in the dark about deficiencies in the Russian military.
If Putin had invested hundreds of billions of dollars in the military over the previous decade, who was going to tell him it wasn't working?



Underinvesting in ground forces

A second problem may be that the Russians got the balance of investment in different military services wrong.
US scholar Michael Kofman has written that the overall focus of Russian military development from 2008 to 2014 "was to counter Western advantages in air power … To this end, much of the investment initially did not go towards Russian ground forces".
Getting the balance of investment in land, air, maritime, cyber and information domains wrong can have catastrophic consequences.



Learning the wrong lessons

A final insight from Russian military transformation is learning the right lessons from operations.
Gerasimov made much of the lessons from Syria. He has described how Russia had acquired "priceless combat experience in Syria".
Despite this emphasis on Syria, the Russians appear to have taken away many wrong lessons.
The war in Syria was an intervention at the invitation of a host government to suppress the population.

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About the Author ...

Mick Ryan is a strategist and recently retired Australian Army major general. He served in East Timor, Iraq and Afghanistan, and as a strategist on the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff. His first book, War Transformed, is about 21st-century warfare.

This is all laughable nonsense. And it just spews out of these defense jocks in the west. It is just demeaning garbage that has no basis in reality.

Russia's military budget adjusted for PPP is 160 billion dollars. That's about the same as the UK, France and Germany combined. But you really believe it is some rag tag army out there. Its a cartoonish notion.

I just posted that Russia has cruise missiles with a longer range than the US or UK has, and I could go on with numerous examples of that. But it still wont cut through the insane propaganda from the media

[harrybarracuda]

So it looks like Putin thinks he's fighting in Syria.

Unable to win an outright victory, he's just resorting to bombing civilian areas to try and weaken resolve.

[Backspin]

Look at these ragtag guys

[Backspin]

[Backspin]

Ragtag army, didn't spend enough on ground forces.

[pickel]

Fancy driving shoes don't make people better drivers socal.

[bsnub]

The reality...

[David48atTD]

This is all laughable nonsense.

Humm ...

About the Author, Mick Ryan is a

• strategist and recently retired Australian Army major general.
  
• He served in East Timor, Iraq and Afghanistan, and
  
• (so well reguarded by his peers) as a strategist on the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Backspin, what is your Military service record?

Either 'on the ground' or as a front line strategist?

In 300 words or less please.

[David48atTD]

Look at these ragtag guys

Backspin, you better start supplying links to your media.

If you wish to retain any credibility.


EDIT ... I'll help you ...



Armyansk, Crimea. 2nd Mar, 2022. Military hardware moves along the street. Credit: Sergei Malgavko/TASS/Alamy Live News

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Taken in Crimea ... hence not in the current war zone.

... NEXT !

[OhOh]

Which is exactly why Russia has a media firewall to block their citizens from seeing it.

One suspects western media have sufficient allowance for themselves to edit away any posts. Don't you agree?

Taken in Crimea ... hence not in the current war zone.

Of course its not.

[panama hat]

He is just a mere pawn.

Perhaps he is trying to be a Knight in shining armour or he sees himself a bit of a King-maker?

Today, 11:10 AM

We sold then downstream, but wish to reassure them they are Brave Heroes.

Shooting and bombing them is worse though, right? Can you at least admit that?

Today, 11:13 AM

sabang . . .
. . . crickets

[pickel]

One suspects western media have sufficient allowance for themselves to edit away any posts. Don't you agree?

You're free to start your own social media platform and post whatever you like on it. Unless you're in Russia. Don't you agree?

[harrybarracuda]

Backspin, what is your Military service record?

He's watched "Toy Soldiers" and has one of these:

[NamPikToot]

Micron really is a prize cvnt, not content with trying repeatedly to out do Chamberlain the little prick is trying to come across all wartime leader. The future leader of the EU I'm surprised he didn't insist on a helmet.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/macron-the-reverse-zelensky

[HermantheGerman]

Backspin, you better start supplying links to your media.

If you wish to retain any credibility.

Backspin and credibility


Putin is farting in Socal's face and he is sucking it up like a crack addict.

[helge]

The reality..

Of what ?

Not much information in that post

The point is any of what is reported about the Ukraine might or might not be true.

I hear that the 13 soldiers, who said "fuck you, russian warship" is alive.

Short martyrdom, but good for them and their families.....and for the russians mariners, who apparently didn't kill them.

[helge]

credibility

Have you decided yet if you are ready to denounce nazi regiments in the ukrainian army ?

Or would you accept them in the german Bundeswehr too ?


Credibility !

[HermantheGerman]

^
Must be tough for you being the ONLY Backspin/Socal arselicker here on this forum.