Ukraine war mega thread

[hallelujah]

Guarantee our special forces will be incountry, not fighting but giving ground support and intel. I read somewhere there is actually a portal with live intel which some sections of the Ukrainian military can look at in real time and request whatever they want to know.

There was footage the other day of British forces arriving in Estonia. Obviously, a show of strength and support for the Baltic states.



I don't know much about war, but Switch and bsnub know better (both ex military) and would be able to clarify regarding any special forces. Like you, I presume the likes of the SAS would be there if it's protecting British interests in any way.

[Backspin]

here is one of the abandoned ammunition depots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kherson.

Almost everything is here, except that we did not find Javelin.

Mines of all calibers, tank shells, Grad missiles, ATGM guided missiles and hundreds of thousands, if not millions of rounds of ammunition. We counted more than 4 million kg of ammunition scattered across various hangars

It is amazing that the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not have time to blow it up - thousands of fighters from various units fled from this base in such a hurry.

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[Switch]

There was footage the other day of British forces arriving in Estonia. Obviously, a show of strength and support for the Baltic states.



I don't know much about war, but Switch and bsnub know better (both ex military) and would be able to clarify regarding any special forces. Like you, I presume the likes of the SAS would be there if it's protecting British interests in any way.

Your guess is as good as mine Hal. I was just ordinary forces. Nothing special at all.

ETA. The UK forces have exercised regularly in Poland and the Baltic states, since the British Forces Germany was drawn down over the last two decades. It was termed, ‘The Peace Dividend’ after the Berlin Wall came down. I left Germany in 1995 and finished my 22 years in 1997.

[hallelujah]

I've got a question for you, backspit. Well, a couple actually.

Firstly, do you not read your posts before/after you have posted them and ponder whether you have not utterly humiliated yourself again? I get that you're desperately craving to be different and everything in your world is black and white, but do you not feel ashamed/embarrassed to be so obviously cheerleading Russian military operations when innocent people are dying?

Secondly, there are some very clever people on here who are better read and who know much more than I do. As such, I would never take them on as far as certain issues are concerned. However, you seem to relish the constant humiliation. Is it just a cry for attention when you get proven to be wrong time and time again but bounce back like nothing has happened?

[hallelujah]

Your guess is as good as mine Hal. I was just ordinary forces. Nothing special at all.

ETA. The UK forces have exercised regularly in Poland and the Baltic states, since the British Forces Germany was drawn down over the last two decades. It was termed, ‘The Peace Dividend’ after the Berlin Wall came down. I left Germany in 1995 and finished my 22 years in 1997.

Thanks for your reply Switch.

[misskit]

This gets just absurd.



Russian State TV Just Blew Up Putin’s ‘Nazi Ukraine’ Bullshit

Confusion reigns on Russia’s condition TV, as panicked lawmakers and pundits attempt to elucidate to the general public why their nation invaded Ukraine and now faces crushing Western sanctions. And within the strategy of zealous propagandists striving to warrant the unfathomable, they’ve inadvertently revealed too mighty.


Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov advised condition TV on Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin was straight interested in making command selections with respect to Russia’s army actions in Ukraine. he urged: “It’s time to unite around our president,” and inspired those that grasp the Kremlin’s goals to “patiently explain” them to anybody who would not.


Appearing on the condition TV display The Evening With Vladimir Soloviev on Friday, Russian lawmaker Andrei Kartapolov, who heads the Russian parliament’s protection committee, then clique out to warrant Putin’s army actions in Ukraine.


Starting with the latest advice of a gross zeal brought on by the Russian army’s efforts to take management over the Zaporizhzhia nuclear energy plant, Kartapolov claimed that Russian troops had been ordered to grab Ukraine’s nuclear crops to preclude Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky “from building a dirty bomb ” with which to bombard Russia.


Kartapolov’s baseless allegation stemmed solely from Zelensky’s assertion on the Munich Security Conference on Feb. 19, the place he introduced up the failure by the signatories to homage the Budapest memorandum, whereby Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal in revert for safety ensures. Zelensky requested fresh safety ensures—or, within the various, he harassed that each one provisions of the 1994 settlement would breathe void. This assertion contained no threats in direction of Russia, however was handy sufficient to breathe appropriated as one in every of Putin’s claims as to why Ukraine one way or the other posed a menace to its bigger neighbor.


On Soloviev’s display—an Orwellian atmosphere, typical of the Russian condition media—the host and each panelist repeatedly denied the patent, making an attempt to disprove the understanding that Russia is at warfare with Ukraine. Soloviev requested: “Are we de facto at war with NATO?” Kartapolov concurred:de facto, we’re at warfare with NATO, as a result of all of Ukraine’s army formations are finishing up NATO’s duties… NATO is too fixing one other drawback, eliminating Europe’s extra migrants by sending them to combat in Ukraine.” He pompously concluded: “God is not in power, but in truth.”


As to the Kremlin’s goals in Ukraine, Kartapolov defined them intimately: “Our position is clear and transparent, including during these negotiations. The essence is as follows: Ukraine will recognize Crimea as the Russian Federation, as well as DPR/LPR [‘Donetsk People’s Republic’ and ‘Luhansk People’s Republic’] within their administrative borders. Ukraine will change its social and state system and become a neutral, demilitarized country. That’s it.”


Lawmaker Konstantin Zatulin, who’s deputy chairman of the Duma empower on relations with the previous Soviet Union, appeared unsettled by Kartapolov’s revelations and angrily replied: “When a horse has something to say, a saddle shouldn’t be the one to talk. This is not the time to tell everything. First of all, we’re not the ones who should be saying that, they [Ukrainians] need to be the ones who say that. But that situation has to ripen first. It won’t be done during the thunder of cannons. Until our operation has concluded, it won’t be clear what ‘denazification’ will consist of.”


As for “demilitarization,” Zatulin stated that plane particular sorts of weapons Russia needs to eradicate from Ukraine are being mentioned throughout talks between the Russian and Ukrainian delegations.


The chaff revealed Putin’s clear technique in Ukraine: destroy Ukraine’s infrastructure and reason widespread despondency with a brutal army beset, which might then compel the Ukrainian authorities to accord to Putin’s phrases and depart their positions or countenance a violent elimination by compel. It’s a land seize of Eastern Ukraine, adopted by the transformation of the relaxation of the nation right into a powerless vassal condition, managed and headed by Putin’s puppets. To crack Ukraine’s unravel, the Kremlin doubtless intends to duplicate the brutality it demonstrated in Syria and Chechnya.


The devastation Putin’s army crusade has already precipitated to its neighboring nation was of no lookout to the pro-Putin pundits. In a smooth-tongued and impertubable method, Soloviev celebrated: “Ukraine is sinking into the stone age. Most of its territories are on the verge of a humanitarian catastrophe.” Nevertheless, he inspired the Russian authorities to not cease their “military operation,” identified within the relaxation of the world as brutal, unprovoked warfare.


Soloviev added: “It should be understood that this is not a war against Ukraine or the Ukrainian people, but a military operation… of denazification and demilitarization of NATO’s fist that was directed at us.” Zatulin chimed in: “This is a war against the West, a war against NATO.” The host agreed: “Of course. This is a battle from the war that started on May 9, 1945, when they—pretending that they’re with us—were getting ready to destroy us.”


Like mantra, condition tv speaking heads are making references to World War II, invoking the spirit of a combat in opposition to Nazism for no different intuition however to whitewash Putin’s newest land seize in progress.


Lawmakers and pundits basically debunked Putin’s pretense that he invaded Ukraine to steal what he stated is a “Nazi” authorities—which is, by the way, headed by a Jewish man. Instead of demystifying the Kremlin’s agenda for the plenty, condition media demonstrated that in Putin’s Russia, anybody who dares to fight Putin is described as a “Nazi,” to the purpose the place the time period is devoid of its unique acceptation.


On Soloviev’s display, political scientist and professor of historical past Elena Ponomareva asserted: “We’re fighting not only against NATO, but also against the Nazi European Union.”

Two days earlier, on a condition TV display 60 Minutes journalist Andrei Sidorchik rode the conception all of the route down the hill when he exclaimed: “Joe Biden is a Nazi. The US Congressmen⁠—Democrat and Republican⁠—are Nazis… German Chancellor is a Nazi… EU leaders are Nazis… because their sanctions are attempting to preserve Neo-Nazism in Ukraine.”

Russian State TV Just Blew Up Putin’s ‘Nazi Ukraine’ Bullshit - Lord Web

[misskit]

^ This originally from The Daily Beast.

[NamPikToot]

There was footage the other day of British forces arriving in Estonia. Obviously, a show of strength and support for the Baltic states.

Actually its part of Op CABRIT and they have been based there since 2017 holding joint exercises with other NATO forces.

The hotel owners in Tallinn have been milking the tax payer for the last 5 years

[Backspin]

Russian troops took control of the base of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with armored vehicles and thousands of tons of ammunition



On the footage you can see the territory of the base with dozens of army tents, numerous boxes of ammunition. The loading of military equipment onto the platforms is also shown. Also, the Russian military received access to the documentation of the military base of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[misskit]

^ How do you know this? Can you read Russian? Got a link to the facts?

[misskit]

^^https://tass.com/politics/1417581

Some of that verified.

[helge]

Actually its part of Op CABRIT and they have been based there since 2017 holding joint exercises with other NATO forces.

More material being shipped off today and yesterday from Copenhagen and another port in Denmark.

Brit, Dane and Swede FMs were present with speeches and for the photo op.


Yes; great number of our F16s has been in the Balticum for years now

[misskit]

Ukrainians fight like beasts – captured Russian officer


Ukrainian servicemen are putting up great resistance, fighting like beasts, captive Russian officer, lieutenant of Russian tank troops Maxim Grishenkov said at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine on Saturday.


"We were heading towards Sumy. The next task was to reach Kyiv as quickly as possible. The task was to smash everything that we see from military equipment or military people who are not related to our troops. But our column was ambushed and was completely defeated by the locals, who they fight like beasts with all weapons. They do not give up a single centimeter of their land. The command just threw us. There was no support," Grishenkov said.


Another captured officer of the tank forces of Russia, Dmitry Koloyartsev, said that Ukraine has modern weapons.


"After we passed Sumy and Pryluky, my convoy came under fire from Ukrainian forces. The entire convoy burned down. You have modern weapons. We were bombed from everywhere – from the air and from the ground. Bayraktars, RPGs, machine guns. It was scary. I volunteered with my crew surrendered," he said.


According to Andrei Chuvatarevsky, a captured soldier who served on a contract basis in the Moscow region, the Russians faced great resistance in Ukraine.


"We faced quite a lot of resistance. I have never seen anything like this. I want to ask that no one be sent here and that the troops simply withdraw from here," he said.


As the captured soldier Dmitry Gagarin said, Putin sent the Russian military to their deaths.


"Russian conscripts, your children, are dying here. My comrades are dying. They are simply dying because they are being deceived. Putin is deceiving them, sending them to their deaths. a missing person's notice, but that is a lie," he said.


"Our young boys stay here because our president does not want us to tell our country what is happening here. Russia does not take the bodies of our dead," Gagarin said.

Ukrainians fight like beasts – captured Russian officer

[misskit]

'96 percent dead' Russian senator opens up on huge soldier losses in one military company

RUSSIAN Senator Lyudmila Narusova met at the Federal Council to discuss the conflict in Ukraine and told politicians she was aware of a Russian military company of 100 troops only having four survivors left when it left the battleground.

Lyudmila Narusova is a member of Russia's upper house of parliament and is one of a handful of Russian elites speaking out against the Ukraine conflict and the "misinformation" being peddled by the Kremlin. Ms Narusova, who is the widow of Putin's former political mentor Anatoly Sobchak, spoke out at the Russian losses and told the chamber she was aware of a company that had lost 96 percent of its personnel in the fighting. She also acknowledged many conscripts had been forced to sign contracts to join the army or others had done it on their behalf as she continues to challenge Putin's actions in Ukraine.

Ms Narusova spoke as the Russian Duma passed a new law punishing citizens with 15 years in prison if they are peddling "fake" information about the actions in Ukraine.

These mainly refer to calling the conflict a "war" rather than the Putin-approved "special operation".

Ms Narusova's statement loosely translated to: "Yesterday the conscripts, who were forced to sign a contract or signed for them, were withdrawn from the war zone in Ukraine.

"But from a company of a hundred men only four were left alive."

Russian senator opens up on huge soldier losses in one military company '96 percent dead' | World | News | Express.co.uk

[helge]

Zelenskij making new friends ?

[Backspin]

I like listening to the podcast of these 2 westernized Russian Communists who are skeptical of Putin and Russia.

They seem to think the war has 80% support and they are mad about it The Russians - “Operation Z” (preview)

[sabang]

Most interesting historical snippet, Confucius say-





Yep, only two countries in the whole World voted against the 2018 UN General Resolution 'combatting the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism' etc- the USA and Ukraine!!
Maybe we should have seen this Tik Tok war coming.

[misskit]

“Combating glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance.”

Just curious, what are the other practices contributing to fueling racism, etc.?

Anti-Semitism would be one they could include there.

[sabang]

I'm sure there are more than one, but... The MSM for a starter! All of this wailing and gnashing of teeth about the plight of our Aryan brethren in Ukraine but--- nary a word on the ongoing bombing of civilians in Yemen, the ongoing invasion and occupation of Palestine by Israel, the victims of war in Syria, Libya, Iraq etc, the starving children in Afghanistan being deprived of food by the $7bn theft of their governments funds by the USA. I could go on, but it appears our moral outrage is a selective thing.

[sabang]

I wonder why only the USA joined Ukraine in voting against the anti-Nazism UN resolution??

[misskit]

There’s plenty of racism abounding. Combating Nazism just seems a bit…limited in the big picture.

[NamPikToot]

^^^ & ^^ when is it time for Pills Sab, have you been a naughty boy and spat them out?

[sabang]

I took the Red pill mate.

[OhOh]

Will we witness a Syria type outcome?

Squeezing the "bad guys" into a smaller and smaller pockets, in this case to the west. As opposed to the Syrian north-west, the Turkey (NATO) managed and the NaGastan "managed", north-east enclaves?

NATO was also backing the wrong side then. Different "bad guys" definition, but a similar entry by Russia and with the Syrian democratically elected government retaining sovereignty.

Similar NATO eventual "disengagement" as well, once Russian troops, on a much smaller scale illustrated to NATO, their backbone.

Will the Ukraine government retain the current incumbent?

Zelenskij making new friends ?

Sniffing a great deal, runny nose or ...., unkempt, blasting his protectors. Another regime change in the offing?

Maybe a "Fuck Zelensky" moment from a NaGastan "expert" POTUS "aide" has already been recorded, just in case.

[NamPikToot]

^ Are you suffering malaria delirium? Your posts are becoming less coherent as this war of your mate Putin progresses.