Ukraine war mega thread

[AntRobertson]

Hot take from a pro-Russian racist.

[bsnub]

Colonel Douglas Macgregor

A pathetic Putin apologist. Just the type of trash post we expect from skiddy the liar.

[NamPikToot]

Russia has been losing the war without question

Your view. Mine as i have stated is that he's trodden lightly and is waiting for most of the women and children to leave the theatre, those male civilians left will be considered conscripts and fair game. The next week will see a big escalation and i fear a lot of casualties on the Ukrainian side. There will be no "Winner or Loser" here just death.

[bsnub]

Mine as i have stated is that he's trodden lightly and is waiting for most of the women and children to leave the theatre

That is not how the Russians wage war. Did you even read my post at all? Putin doesn't care about civilian casualties, and it is common sense that it is going to ramp up, there is a convoy mile long coming towards Kyiv.

The next week will see a big escalation and i fear a lot of casualties on the Ukrainian side.

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Here is what is going to happen next IMHO. Russian military doctrine is unchanged for decades. I thought maybe they would have changed their ways, but this war has proven that not to be the case. This huge, lumbering convoy that is slowly grinding to Kyiv will eventually get there, and the Ukrainians appear to have retreated into the cities intent to defend from within, which is why the convoy has not been attacked. The Russians intend to encircle Kyiv and use artillery to turn the city into glass. It is what they did to Grozny during the Chechen wars. The next couple of days could be hideous, I am sad to say.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

FFS if history has taught us anything it's that you don't let aggressors get away with anything, or they will just do more.

Yet we let the US get away with aggression all around the world. Is there a different set of rules for the US?

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Hot take from a pro-Russian racist.

He might be all that , but instead of calling him names is there something he said that you disagree with? what is it? and how do you disagree?
Ad hominem attacks do nothing to advance the conversation and serve only to distract.

[kingwilly]

I think at this point he is mostly concerned with Ukraine because of the reasons I stated earlier in this Thread. I find it safer not to make predictions as to how this conflict will be resolved. We will see. I hope Ukraine does not become a Nato member because a cornered Bare can be very dangerous.

Who is the cornered bear? The country being fucking annihilated!

[David48atTD]

That's fucking horseshit.

Even if you believe the story, the man who came up with it said Putin didn't want to go through the application process because he thought Russia shouldn't have to.

Whatever the requirements, there was no appetite for letting the 'Russian bear' in. It never got off the ground. Let history roll on a bit, and now there is a mega-alliance between China and Russia. It would have been nice, at least, to have Russia itself as a non-aligned buffer state between, but y'know speculations about that now are as pointless as American Civil war re-enactments.

Are you aware that Putin tried, wanted to? Firmly rebuffed.

ACTUALLY ...

Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule

Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance.

Ex-Nato head says Putin wanted to join alliance early on in his rule | Nato | The Guardian

[Troy]

The contemporary practice is for invading forces is to attain air superiority, before committing ground troops. In Putin’s War ground troops were used early and prior to any air superiority.
The Russian tyrant is either naive, or he fully believed his aim of conquest could be achieved quickly by Russian foot soldiers and conventional munitions.
This belief has been proved incorrect. In many cases, the smaller, but well motivated forces of Ukraine have caused considerable damage to Putins original beliefs. Russian conscripts are reported to have stolen rations from supermarkets and even Ukrainian families.

On the other side, it remains a mystery why Ukrainian forces have not tried to disrupt a vulnerable convoy target, even to divert vehicles from main roads, and slow them down further by forcing wheeled support vehicles onto cross country terrain?

I remain convinced that this tactic is caused by limited offensive choices in the Ukrainian forces. They would rather keep the convoy under vulnerable conditions, while they gather and plan their limited resources in a last ditch attack against superior numbers.

Low morale and vulnerability could yet make Putin even more desperate. His supply lines are already extended beyond Russias ability to re-supply them with food fuel and ammunition of all natures.

Does the Russian general staff support Putin’s War, or is he pulling the strings independent of their advice, on a whim and a prayer.
I rather think that his unrealistic expectations of superiority could be his downfall. Starved of re-supply and committed to a path of ill advised assumptions, he could so easily come unstuck.

I think Putin committed his conscripts to soak up the main defenses before bringing in the professionals to mop up. That said, he did use some special forces to take airfields and cause havoc in the cities.

I haven't heard much about the air war but expect Russia to have gained it before moving that column of armour.

[harrybarracuda]

Yet we let the US get away with aggression all around the world. Is there a different set of rules for the US?

Are you trying to compare the likes of Hitler and Saddam Hussein with the US

I expect that sort of feeble non-sequitur from Hoohoo but not you.

[David48atTD]

Here’s how Chinese media is covering Ukraine

Key Points

• As the Ukrainian delegation arrived at the Belarus border for a first round of talks with Russia on Monday, Chinese state media was quick to update and even livestream the proceedings.
• When the invasion began on Thursday, and China’s Foreign Ministry refused to categorize the attack as one.
• Chinese state media has instead used the term “special military operations.”

Here'''s how Chinese media is covering Ukraine

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Who is the cornered bear? The country being fucking annihilated!

Russia is generally referred to and Associated as the Bear

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Are you trying to compare Hitler the likes of Saddam Hussein with the US

If you pulled Sandam's pans down stamped on his ass would be "Made in the USA"

[kingwilly]

Russia is generally referred to and Associated as the Bear

I'm well aware of that, but they are hardly the ones cornered.

When didd you become a snivelling Putin apologist?

[bsnub]

That said, he did use some special forces to take airfields and cause havoc in the cities.

They were all wiped out.

I haven't heard much about the air war but expect Russia to have gained it before moving that column of armour.

That is incorrect. Ukraine is still attacking from the air with Bayraktar TB2 drones. There is lots of video footage of them on Twitter attacking the Russian convoys.

[Switch]

I think Putin committed his conscripts to soak up the main defenses before bringing in the professionals to mop up. That said, he did use some special forces to take airfields and cause havoc in the cities.

I haven't heard much about the air war but expect Russia to have gained it before moving that column of armour.

If Russian had achieved air superiority, I’m sure that Putin would have announced it. He likes everyone to think he is winning. His arrogance and unjustified superiority complex demands it.

[bsnub]

Today in Kharkiv...

[Buckaroo Banzai]

I'm well aware of that, but they are hardly the ones cornered.

When didd you become a snivelling Putin apologist?

I have graduated from Putin apologist to "Sniveling Putin apologist?
I put a curse on you. Pfui Pfui !! May a thousand camels spit on your face

[harrybarracuda]

If you pulled Sandam's pans down stamped on his ass would be "Made in the USA"

And Russia has never supported friendly leaders?

Have you never heard of the Saur revolution?

[harrybarracuda]

Drive the dagger home!

The European Union is preparing a fourth package of sanctions against Russia because of its military operation in Ukraine, said Austrian Foreign Minister Alexander Schallenberg.


According to him, on Friday, March 4, a special meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the EU member states with US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will take place.

Schallenberg noted that the new anti-Russian sanctions would affect major Russian businessmen, the so-called oligarchs. The diplomat did not specify which persons will be discussed.

https://news.am/eng/news/689410.html

[bsnub]

Drive the dagger home!

I am sure this will send sabang into a whingefest.

[harrybarracuda]

I am sure this will send sabang into a whingefest.

Skidmark will be frantically googling to get his next opinion, too.

[harrybarracuda]

ussia's largest lender Sberbank said on Wednesday it is quitting the European market after the West imposed economic sanctions on Russia over the invasion. The bank said its European subsidiaries are facing "abnormal cash outflows".

'Facing abnormal cash outflows': Russia's largest lender Sberbank quits European market - Business News

[harrybarracuda]

The Russian economy is teetering on the edge of collapse as Western nations continue to impose sanctions in response to Moscow's brutal invasion of Ukraine.
The sanctions target several sectors of the Russian economy, including the oligarchs who are widely viewed as helping prop up the Putin regime.
The banking sector, in particular, has been badly hit, as major commercial banks are removed from the international system of global money transfer (SWIFT) which prevents them from participating in the global economy.
Some analysts say this could be the beginning of the worst financial crisis to hit Moscow since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Ruble to rubble: Russia faces worst financial crisis since the fall of the Soviet Union after Ukraine invasion

[harrybarracuda]

The UK government is open to removing Russia as one of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council following the invasion of Ukraine, Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman said Tuesday.
"I think it's something we want to discuss with the UN obviously," the spokesman, who speaks on condition of anonymity, told reporters.
"There are the mechanisms in place for that which are well established," he said, adding that Johnson had yet to stake out a position himself on the question.
"What is right to say is that we want to see Russia isolated diplomatically, and we will consider all options to achieve that."
Britain is also one of the five permanent members alongside Russia, the United States, China and France.
The five are meant to guarantee international peace and security, but Russia stands accused of trashing the UN rulebook with its offensive on Ukraine.

UK Says Evicting Russia From UN Security Council Among 'All Options' | Barron's