Ukraine war mega thread

[pickel]

This buffoon has been proven right about Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Venezuela etc. Just send me one Bitcoin, and I'll send ya some Buffoon juice.

You're also the buffoon that said Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine and it was all Anglo scare mongering. Not exactly right there were you?

[Backspin]

Humm, the "Maidan revolution"

A grass roots uprising to protest against the Russian Puppet of the then Prime Minister/President of the Ukraine after he personally rejecting the Ukrainian-European Association Agreement which was a free trade agreement.

An agreement which would have turned Ukraine towards the free-trade orientated Europe and away from Russia.

He currently lives in exile in Russia.

Surprise, Surprise ... Yanukovych served as the governor of Donetsk Oblast, a province in eastern Ukraine, from 1997 to 2002.

All of Ukraine is ethnicaly Slavic. Same religion and alphabet as Russia too. But one half of the country is literally Russian.

[Backspin]

You're also the buffoon that said Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine and it was all Anglo scare mongering. Not exactly right there were you?

The Anglo narrative was that Russia invaded and occupied east Ukraine in 2015. What was it ?

[OhOh]

Prior to the decision to recognise the two countries, the full Russian Security Council met to agree the route Russias future should follow.

After all views were aired and discussed, The LORD stated he would decide if the action to the proposal to recognise the two countries, and to sign a strategic defence agreement with the two countries would be signed.

Putin holds a meeting with permanent members of the Security Council in Moscow

February 21, 2022 18:30 The Kremlin, Moscow

Official readout at

Security Council meeting • President of Russiaor the 1:30 long video:

[pickel]

The Anglo narrative was that Russia invaded and occupied east Ukraine in 2015. What was it ?

What was it? A correct narrative of course.

[OhOh]

who will fall first

Some have previous in this:

[NamPikToot]

^ yes we saw that bit of sycophantic theatre yesterday

[Backspin]

Ukraine is being invaded by Russia, which is proof they should belong to NATO.

Looking back in history , everyone in this thread would that the wars of the past were about good hard imperial competition. And nothing more.

But if this was 1853 when the Anglo world had designs on Crimea the first time , most ppl in this thread would have believed it was for moral , ethical and lawful reasons. It's just the way history works.

When a few centuries pass, this war will be looked at no different than the Crimean war in 1853. Or do you believe that it was right thing for Britain to be fighting thousands of miles away for minority Christian rights ?

Today it's human rights and democracy. Back then imperial propaganda was dressed up around religious issues.


The Crimean War was a military conflict fought from October 1853 to February 1856[4] in which Russia lost to an alliance of France, the Ottoman Empire, the United Kingdom and Piedmont-Sardinia. The immediate cause of the war involved the rights of Christian minorities in Palestine, which was part of the Ottoman Empire. The French promoted the rights of Roman Catholics, and Russia promoted those of the Eastern Orthodox Church.

[pickel]

^
Stay on topic, this invasion has nothing to do with religion.

[russellsimpson]

It will be interesting to see what countries will be the next to recognize the two new republics. I predict China in very short order, the former Soviet republics, a number of countries in Central and South America, a number of African countries as well.

Can we assume that this move by Putin was well anticipated by NATO intelligence?
I hope to hell so in any case.

[russellsimpson]

The Crimean War was a military conflict fought from October 1853 to February 1856[4] in which Russia lost to an alliance of France, the Ottoman Empire, the United Kingdom and Piedmont-Sardinia

Sardinia being the juniour partner?

Just joking BS.

[Troy]

^ What did the western nations do when Russia took control of Crimea? Made lots of noise and applied some sanctions.

What will happen now Russia has recognised two more Ukraine states? West will make lots of noise and apply further sanctions.

What will Russia do next?

Annex some more of Ukraine in exactly the same way.

The joining NATO/EU or whatever else is irrelevant. Putin wants Ukraine to be part of Russia again. He said so himself in his speech.

[Troy]

But one half of the country is literally Russian.

Well, No...it isn't actually is it. It's Ukraine.

You really are the most obnoxious idiot ever to post on TD.

[Troy]

All of Ukraine is ethnicaly Slavic.

So, you mean, like, it belongs to Slovakia? Good case for being part of the EU then...

...you really are quite the idiot.

[Backspin]

^
Stay on topic, this invasion has nothing to do with religion.

It's very much on topic. The Anglo world is expanding it's military , economic and political institutions with the 2014 coup and Nato acession plans for Ukraine.

So you are making excuses for Western imperial expansion. And if not for this imperial expansion , there would be no war. Just as there was no war from 1991 to 2014. Period.

[pickel]

It's very much on topic. The Anglo world is expanding it's military , economic and political institutions with the 2014 coup and Nato acession plans for Ukraine.

So you are making excuses for Western imperial expansion. And if not for this imperial expansion , there would be no war. Just as there was no war from 1991 to 2014. Period.

You really are quite retarded. It's Russia doing the expanding. But, you tend to think women getting raped is their own fault so your opinion is not really surprising.

You were wrong about the Iraq war and you are wrong about this one.

C'mon socal, admit it, it was a shirtless Vlad on horseback that got you hard, wasn't it?

[Ravers98]

But, you tend to think women getting raped is their own fault so your opinion is not really surprising.

Say what?? really, he said that?

[NamPikToot]

Where is that little Froggie bloke who twice claimed he'd sorted this all out, the Elysee are quiet all of a sudden.

[Ravers98]

So, you mean, like, it belongs to Slovakia? Good case for being part of the EU then...

He does not know what an Anglo is either.

[panama hat]

This buffoon

Yes, you are . . . well done in your self-diagnosis

You support war in Europe instead of no NATO for Ukraine. Got it.

I doubt you have ever 'got' anything aside from the clap.


Fact: Ukraine is a sovereign nation . . . even you are capable of accepting this as fact.

[david44]

Putin wants Ukraine to be part of Russia again. He said so himself in his speech.

The nub.
We are about to witness a giant who blinks first game of Chicken.... Kiev, if you will.

It will be unforgiveable if the West expect Ukrainians to fight to the last man with no hope of rescue and eventual protection, guarantees of EU and NATO membership. As it drags on will be a factor in popularity of Biden and Boris while Macron needs a new mandate in 2 months so desperate for a diplomatic win.

As Troy accurately described tranche by tranche Putin is slicing off his conquest like a slow gobbler moving down the buffet.

May settle for the for lines of status quo ante last week , then all of Donbas and so on and so on.

[HermantheGerman]

Putin holds a meeting with permanent members of the Security Council in Moscow

Why are you posting this? Its all fake and lies like all your posts.
We have the prove right here on this thread.

[HermantheGerman]

Well, No...it isn't actually is it. It's Ukraine.

You really are the most obnoxious idiot ever to post on TD.

Hey Helge, did you read this?

[Backspin]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ory-in-ukraine

Practicing bombing of Russian cities from the same ground that Napoleon and Hitler used to invade Russia. How about at
least you just write up a security guarantee ?

Nope.

NATO rejects Russian demands for security guarantees in latest round of talks - ABC NewsImagine Russia overthrew the Mexican govt and installed a compliant one and then started practice bombing Russian cities. Why Putin waited this long and has done so little is beyond me.

[HermantheGerman]

Russia has zero intentions of invading Ukraine. This is all a question of the continuing propaganda Zelensky employs to get his nation into NATO which hopefully will never happen. That would amount to severe aggression on the part of the west.

Lets review some of the TD idiots