Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

OPERATION DRAGONFLY: Anton Gerashchenko @Gerashchenko_en
posts this succinct brief on last night ATACMS strike on RU airbases: Nine transport and attack helicopters; air defense, navigation and radar systems, ammunition depots and damage to hardstand and runways. The aviation ordnance depot at the Berdiansk airfield rippled with secondary detonations until 0400 (Local). Explosions at the ammunition storage areas at Luhansk continued until 1100 (Local).

https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/sta...53449708437998

[OhOh]

"'Tis But a Scratch"

"Actually It Was 25...

Tuesday, October 17, 2023

" ... helicopters, 50 SU-35 and the remnants of reputation of Fighterbomber jerk who spreads TSIPSO propaganda. Here is the "journalism" (a euphemism for BS) from Politico.

KYIV — Ukrainian special forces early on Tuesday struck two Russian military airfields, saying they successfully destroyed nine Russian military helicopters, an anti-aircraft missile system, and an ammunition warehouse. The attacks took place in occupied Berdyansk, a southern city in the Zaporizhzhia region; and at an airfield in Luhansk, an occupied city in eastern Ukraine. The special forces also managed to successfully damage airfield runways, Ukraine said, in what it called “Operation Dragonfly.”

Now report from real people on the ground:

1. No ATACMS have been used, the attack was by HIMARS;

2. All munitions have been intercepted by AD;

3. The fragments of one intercepted HIMARS munition fell on the airfield in Berdyansk where the Korenovsky Air Regiment is based currently;

4. "Losses" amounted to some damage to two Ural fueling trucks. NO damage or losses to personnel and air assets.

Next in line: Zelensky farts, Politico reports regime change in Moscow. Per all those "voenkors"--you know my opinion, most of them are human trash monetizing their BS. Simple as that."

Reminiscence of the Future... : Actually It Was 25...

[pickel]

^
ATACM's use the Himars launcher. There is video showing multiple helicopters burning, and ATACM's debris.

[bsnub]

No ATACMS have been used, the attack was by HIMARS;

You really are a fucking clown. ATACMS are a HIMARS missile dipshit.

All munitions have been intercepted by AD;

The video in the link I posted clearly shows that not to be the case.

Losses" amounted to some damage to two Ural fueling trucks. NO damage or losses to personnel and air assets.

You are so full of shit. An absolute joke of a poster.

[helge]

The video in the link I posted clearly shows that not to be the case.

I'm afraid that some do not open your links.

I have stopped long ago, cause they are mostly propaganda, in my opinion.


Don't be lazy; post it up here

[OhOh]

You are so full of shit.

Your video source, #14429, himself does not state the report is true, and he awaits confirmation.

[OhOh]

You really are a fucking clown. ATACMS are a HIMARS missile dipshit.

The ATACMS is a long-range tactical ballistic missile.



The ATACMS can be launched from the M270 Multiple Launch RocketSystem (MLRS)


or

The ATACMS can be launched from the M142 HighMobilityArtilleryRocketSystems (HIMARS).

MGM-140 ATACMS — Википедия

[Bettyboo]

This guy has consistently been a reliable source.

[helge]

This guy has consistently been a reliable source.

Then he should be worth watching.

I have to admit that I can't see anyting out of the before and after satelite images.

Could be destroyed helicopters or just craters.

Don't know.

However...his objectivity and thereby credibility in my eyes., takes a dive 2:40 into the video.

Might have a look at his next video

[helge]

This guy has consistently been a reliable source.

In his video uploaded 11 hours earlier he reported 9 helicopters destroyed and not the 5 he arrived at now.

Hmm

Hopes and guesses.


It's not very sexy, but safer and more reliable, if one waits for the later updates.

I'll give him a pass

[pickel]

In his video uploaded 11 hours earlier he reported 9 helicopters destroyed and not the 5 he arrived at now.

There was also an airfield hit in Luhansk.

[helge]

There was also an airfield hit in Luhansk.

Yes....

His earlier ..update



Not really important; I was commenting on the "consistently reliable" label and nothing more

[bsnub]

I have stopped long ago, cause they are mostly propaganda, in my opinion.

Well, you attempting to claim anything is "propaganda" is utterly laughable, being that you are a fucking useful idiot who constantly lies through his teeth. You do not open my videos because you do not want to see the reality of what is going on. You prefer to believe kremlin propaganda like a good little vatnik clown.

This guy has consistently been a reliable source.

Of course, he is, but to some clowns on here it is "propaganda".

[david44]

constantly lies through his teeth.

Could you site half a dozen examples

I poten disagree with his POV , but that does not make him a liar, as you know i a a generlly ;ight hearted piss taker but not about this tragedy for all concerned.

As to the Hospital tragedy someone is lying jew or arab, israel, hamas, islamic jihad for the victims don't make much difference.

I don't know but Biden seems to have uneceesarily stuck his neck out if it is later agreed it was Israel? I cannot believe with all the sat monitoring of missiles phones and spies everywhere someone doesn't know, if no one else those who launched it.

If like Blair's dodgy dossier the death of Dr David Kelly this may return to split Democratic support, e a lever to enable the return of teh Trumpanzee.

My gut feeling is Biden has teh intelligence from US and Israel but cannot reveal sources or he has been terribly advised and played by Blinken, Netanhayu and Shin beit

[david44]

sorry cannot edit teh obvious typos

[bsnub]

Could you site half a dozen examples

He constantly sites ruzzian propaganda talking points and has been doing it for a long time on here.

As to the Hospital tragedy someone is lying jew or arab, israel, hamas, islamic jihad for the victims don't make much difference.

Wrong thread for that.

[helge]

He constantly sites ruzzian propaganda talking points and has been doing it for a long time on here.

Purely coincidental then, cause I do not know of any "russian propaganda talking point".

Could you post a link, cause I do like to keep an open mind

[Joe 90]

Blair's dodgy dossier the death of Dr David Kelly

Blair has his blood on his hands!

[bsnub]

Purely coincidental then, cause I do not know of any "russian propaganda talking point".

You disingenuous clown. That post itself is a lie.

[bsnub]

Some footage of the ruzzians getting their shit packed in Avdiivka.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...31066982105127
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/...32740085747756
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...50653530263770
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...49136718963159

[OhOh]

No worries then.

Ukraine does not have any borders so what exactly are they defending?

BY MIKE ON FEBRUARY 28, 2022.

The Secretary-General of the United Nations said that Ukraine has not asked for registration on the border since 1991 so the Ukrainian state does not exist. And we knew nothing about it.

"04/07/2014 Ban Ki-moon UN Secretary-General made a surprising statement, which was banned from broadcasting on Ukrainian media and the internet. The conflict between the two countries was discussed at the UN Security Council meeting.

The following conclusion was withdrawn from there:

Ukraine has not registered its borders since 12/25 1991, the UN has not registered the borders of Ukraine as a sovereign state. This is why we can assume that Russia does not commit violations of rights over Ukraine.

According to the CIS Treaty, the territory of Ukraine is the Soviet Union’s public administration area. For this reason, no one can be blamed for separatism and the forced modification of the borders of Ukraine.

According to international law, the country simply has no officially recognized borders. In order to solve this problem, Ukraine must stop closing borders with neighbouring countries and obtain an agreement between neighbouring countries, including Russia on their common borders. Ukraine must document everything and sign contracts with all neighbouring states.

The European Union is committed to supporting Ukraine on this important issue and will provide all technical assistance. But will Russia sign a border treaty with Ukraine? No, not because Russia is the lawyer of the Soviet Union (this is confirmed by the decisions of the international courts on real estate disputes between the former Soviet Union and foreign countries), those are the lands in Ukraine, Belarus and Novorossiya connected legally to Russia and no one has the right without them Russia’s consent to have this territory.

Basically, Russia was left to say that this area is Russian and that everything that happens there is Russia inside. Any intervention shall be considered an action against Russia. 2014 can be cancelled on this basis. Elections on May 25 and they do what the people want. According to the Budapest Memorandum and other agreements, Ukraine has no borders. There is no state of Ukraine (and there was neither."

Ukraine does not have any borders so what exactly are they defending – Europe Renaissance

[helge]

According to international law, the country simply has no officially recognized borders.

Now there's a surprise !

[Troy]

^^ That piece of disinformation has been doing the rounds since 2014.

Surely you can come up with something more convincing than that.

[OhOh]

That piece of disinformation

Where is your rebuttal to the UN Secretary-Genera's statement? Enlighten us.

Send your concerns to:

Ban Ki-moon UN Secretary-General

[OhOh]

20 October 2023 15:19

Press release on developments in the Middle East

2117-20-10-2023

"The crisis in the Middle East is escalating. Shelling of Israeli territory continues, as well as rocket and bomb attacks on the northern and other parts of the Gaza Strip, and armed incidents along the Blue Line between Lebanon and Israel. The death toll and the number of wounded are rising, prompting massive protests around the world.

In this context, we strongly recommend that citizens of the Russian Federation refrain from traveling to the region, especially to Israel, Lebanon, Jordan or the Palestinian territories."

(Continues with info on travel and safety.)

"Following the Russian President’s instruction, on October 19, a special flight of the Russian Emergencies Ministry delivered humanitarian aid (a total of 27 tonnes of flour, sugar, rice and other food) to El Arish Airport, Egypt, which was handed over to representatives of the Egyptian Red Crescent Society for the people of Gaza.

This is yet another confirmation of Russia’s readiness to provide a prompt humanitarian response."

https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1910618/