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    There is much going on in the world and the opportunity to discuss these issues and how they affect your world is always relevant. Your opinion is important and though we might not solve the problems confronting society, we just might open someones eyes. What is your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    Ask somebody who really knows if a Nigerian would find this offensive?
    Have you ever wondered what a Romanian would think of the offensive gibberish you have posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robski View Post


    I think this must be yours... booooo hooooooo!!!
    The original article may well have been bullshit but it's bullshit that a lot of people in Britain believe, CO posted it to start a discussion about the rights and wrongs of that article but he's quite right in claiming that it turned into a personal attack on him. I think it's disgusting, CO in his many incarnations has never claimed to be particularly well-read or particularly well-educated but he is interested in discussing these subjects. He's started a lot of controversial threads, true, but in nearly every case the response has been childish school-yard ad-hominem attacks. Do you think the above response is mature, intelligent, or in any way reflects well upon you? To me it seems that even if CO does agree with the OP you and others, by your responses, have shown yourselves to be more ignorant, arrogant, and childish than anything he has ever posted. If you disagree with him you can do it without resorting to playground insults, argue with what he's posted if you disagree with it, there's no reason to resort to personal insults and unjustified arrogance.
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    The Great Immigration Debate Awards Ceremony

    DrBob

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    Robski (again)

    Last edited by Clockwork Orange; 19-10-2007 at 02:24 AM.

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    How can any Western country with a low birthrate expect to grow its economy without immigration?

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    The UK does have a low birthrate at the moment, but this could change next year, or the year after. I don't think filling up to bursting point with immigrants is the answer. There has to be some immigration, but there must be a limit on the numbers.

    People should be vetted. A points system. Anything but this free-for-all that's happening today.

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    So anyone can go to the UK from anywhere in the EU without a visa and then stay indefinitely?

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    Yes. EU is all one thing now.

    There are also large amounts of Africans & such but I'm not sure why they are here. I think they claim asylum & are simply never deported, even if the case fails.

    It is a total free-for-all, HB.

    The Romanians have to be here for a year before they can work or claim benefits (this was supposed to deter them from coming) but all anyone else from the EU has to do is turn up at the door, no ID, nothing & they're in. Straight to the top of the housing list & such, too. The amount of scams & abuse of the system going on is unbelievable.

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    Crickey this thread kicked off didn't it! And for once, I wasn't involved. Don't know whether to feel proud or slighted!?

    Anyways, back to the topic at hand... sort of. I watched 'This is England' last night (stunningly brilliant movie by the way), I only mention it now because it was interesting to note that one of the themes of this movie was anti-immigration (or, strictly speaking, racism against immigrants being that the protagonists were skinheads). This of course made me think of this thread, the movie reflected some of the concerns on here - which, by the way, is in no way to be taken to infer that any of the posters on here are skinhead racists.

    Now the interesting thing in all of this is that it was set in the 1980's during the Falklands War, two decades ago. A case of plus ca change methinks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    There are also large amounts of Africans & such but I'm not sure why they are here. I think they claim asylum & are simply never deported, even if the case fails.
    You "think", yep.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    Straight to the top of the housing list & such, too. The amount of scams & abuse of the system going on is unbelievable.
    I suppose i am wasting my time asking you to back up this latest claim of yours?

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    Before we'll have to endure another 10 pages of Daily-Mail inspired ranting and raving, here some links with actual information on migration, which has been sadly missing in this thread: ESRC Society Today - Migration
    UK immigration statistics for past two years
    Here some actual statistics in pdf format: National Statistics Online - Product - International Migration (MN series)

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    From the first link:
    In 2004 144,000 migrants came to the UK for work related reasons [13]. A survey conducted by the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD) in 2005 of over 1,200 UK organisations revealed that 27 per cent of employers surveyed were looking to recruit migrant workers with migrants from the new EU states as the most sought after. 18 per cent of employers look to recruit migrant workers because of their greater commitment and and willingness to work. Migrants are mostly hired as a solution to long-standing recruitment difficulties; however, 5 per cent of employers hire migrant workers simply to cut wages
    It seems employers have difficulties finding Brits with commitment and work ethos, well, who wants to employ people who can't get up in the morning to catch a bus on time?

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    It also transspires that a good number of Brits are leaving the UK every day, to take their money out of the pot and spend it abroad instead of puttiing it back in and furthering Britain's economy and welfare system - cancer patients will die because of lack of funds for medicine because of this!

    Should emigration be controlled? Should Brits have to apply for exit permits before they are allowed to blow UK money on cheap booze and whores abroad, and thereby damaging themselves as well as the economy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    It also transspires that a good number of Brits are leaving the UK every day, to take their money out of the pot and spend it abroad instead of puttiing it back in and furthering Britain's economy and welfare system
    Bet they're taking flasks of tea with them too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    18 per cent of employers look to recruit migrant workers because of their greater commitment and and willingness to work
    Who are these companies they are talking about? Cowboy operations, no doubt. Likely the compaies who pack bananas or dig up vegetables or similar, mundane stuff. Those jobs are a load of shit & the immigrants are welcome to them.

    Here's an example for you.

    Asylum seekers without work or residency permits have been in great demand throughout the winter - for the dangerous work of clearing snow off rooftops. Low wages are paid cash-in-hand and the workers lack any form of insurance,
    No wonder employers are crying out for people to do the work

    I've had a think about this situation last night. I have concluded that immigrants are a waste of space. It's all very well talking about the economy, but who benefits from the economy - the rich. The man on the street has a hard enough time as it is scraping around for jobs, which are now so low-paid they are hardly worth taking on.

    Another example.

    In town, the going rate for a day's graft on a building site used to be £100. It is now £50 & the English are lucky to get in the queue for work as the Romanians & such have been sleeping at the site gates overnight in their dozens.

    At the end of the day, it's all very well to shout me down with ideal-world scenarios, but the fact of the matter is, the immigrants are taking their 'contribution to the economy' straight out of the hands of people who were born here & now don't have the same opportunities that they had before.

    These matters have been raised in the Houses of Parliament, before you ask for a link. My sources are the actual people who are affected by this, before you ask, also.

    We don't all sit on the other side the world using Google to find our opinion on what's going on - some of us live in the situation we are discussing.

    Lastly, to say I planned for all the grief heaped upon me by you & your buddies is a joke & serves to demonstrate that you are only trying to wind me up by disagreeing with me at any opportunity, regardless of whether I am right or not. If I said black was black you would say it was white - then ask me to provide a link.

    It's gone beyond a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    I have concluded that immigrants are a waste of space
    So it's not so much a case of having come full-circle as it is having turned 360-degrees whilst standing in place then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    If I said black was black
    Racist!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    At the end of the day, it's all very well to shout me down with ideal-world scenarios
    No, merely pointing out where you are making false statements and putting in some sense and facts.
    Have you had a look at the statistics? - didn't think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    Lastly, to say I planned for all the grief heaped upon me by you & your buddies is a joke
    I haven't said this, not rven as a joke, though the fact is your comments do attract a lot of piss-taking, since it's so easy to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    If I said black was black you would say it was white - then ask me to provide a link.
    Gobble-de-hoog. Try saying grey is a mixture of black and white for a change, instead of claiming 2+2=5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    I haven't said this, not even as a joke
    Cost of Immigration19-10-2007 10:44 AMstrolleryou planned it moron


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    Oh, something else often conveniently forgotten when accounting the costs of immigrants:
    Another country shouldered the cost of their upbringing and education, they come to the UK as adults ready to work - including the low-paid and hazardous jobs Brits on social or sick wouldn't even consider getting their hands dirty for.

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    ^^
    Go back to the post in question, read it and come again - if you want to divert this thread further and waste more of my time with your paranoia ridden petty arguing.

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    You've been caught with your pants down, get over it & stop getting all flustered. You said you never said it but it's quite obvious that you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Another country shouldered the cost of their upbringing and education


    Wonderful job they did.

    they come to the UK as adults ready to work
    And when they don't find work they start mugging people.

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    Are the mods able to close threads n this place. This resembles the great "Is Stroller a Troll" thread. Yes he is no he isn't.

    Shitman lets call it a draw and move on to today's Daily Mail.

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    Who's making you read the thread, Begbie?

    Just because you don't agree with my opinion you're inviting a mod to close my entire thread & we all know who that mod is, don't we? I'll tell you what, if this is how TD operates (see Elites) you can stick the entire forum up your arse.

    Keep your back-slapping boys club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    Wonderful job they did, too, eh?
    As Britain did with these, eh?
    How much money have tax-payers coughed up for this guy?
    Last edited by stroller; 19-10-2007 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
    I'll tell you what, if this is how TD operates (see Elites) you can stick the entire forum up your arse.
    Yes, we are the Elite and you are not.
    Now go get some cool-aid.

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