Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Troy

You need to provide a few concrete examples rather than just general angst. One where the commission has bulldozed legislation through which EU governments hadn't authorised and MEPs had rejected.

I don’t need to provide anything. Just check any and every controversial decision voted on by parliament. Plenty to get your teeth into there. Smoke and mirrors and you still believe in the fairy tale of EU democracy. Even the dumb hardliners seeking ass got that one wrong. Heads of state my arse. Bwahahahaha

Less than 3 months now. Hopefully.

Originally Posted by Switch

I don’t need to provide anything. Just check any and every controversial decision voted on by parliament. Plenty to get your teeth into there. Smoke and mirrors and you still believe in the fairy tale of EU democracy. Even the dumb hardliners seeking ass got that one wrong. Heads of state my arse. Bwahahahaha

Since 1999, the British government has voted against EU legislation merely 2% of the time.

It's not mandatory to be a fucking dribbling moron in order to qualify as a Brexit imbecile, it just seems that way.

I see Stephen Fry has upset a few brexiteers with his latest video....

Originally Posted by foobar

The EU commissioners are appointed by the European Council and confirmed by the European Parliament.

The European Council and the European Parliament are made up heads of state, MPs and other elected officials.

...so EU democracy is intact.

Just to prove what an ill informed first class thundercunt you really are.

<[QUOTE]The merging of the executive bodies in 1967 did not affect the composition of the Council. The Council of the European Communities continued to be composed of representatives from the Member States. Each Member State appointed to the Council one of the members of its government.[QUOTE]
Note the very special word in that quote. Appointed

Originally Posted by foobar

Originally Posted by Warwick
Are you interested investing in a sure fire scheme I have for turning lead into gold?
If it's anything like the pile of unsubstantiated nonsense you were sold by the Daily Express on how the EU is some kind of dictatorship where the UK doesn't have any say ..I'll pass.

No? How about a bridge or two? Or maybe an airport - the sale price is probably about the same as each of unwittingly contributed towards its construction.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33578949

Dear Seeking Ass.
Not one of the members of the commission, the council of ministers or the MEPs is a “Head of state” you cripple brained fucking biff.
Juncker likes to think he is, but he is a retarded drunken spunk bubble, and a complete Mong, just like you.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Since 1999, the British government has voted against EU legislation merely 2% of the time.

It's not mandatory to be a fucking dribbling moron in order to qualify as a Brexit imbecile, it just seems that way.

The conversation to which you have referred, was about the election or appointment of EU council and commission members, not the UK voting habits.
Sorry to learn that you are overcome with confusions by this relatively simple difference between two important words.

Now piss off, you bluffing coont.

Originally Posted by Switch

Appointments are not elected official are they. Undemocratic. MEPs are nothing but a nodding dog in this, and many other cases.
Please tell the half witted Gent about appointments v elections.

remind me again how members are elected in the House of Lords?

Originally Posted by Switch

Just to prove what an ill informed first class thundercunt you really are.

The merging of the executive bodies in 1967 did not affect the composition of the Council. The Council of the European Communities continued to be composed of representatives from the Member States. Each Member State appointed to the Council one of the members of its government.

Note the very special word in that quote. Appointed

Are you still labouring over the appointment of EU commissioners? Why are you so worried about them being selected from a pool of proposals from individual governments? Appointed rather than directly elected by people who don't really have a clue who's who anyway.

In the end they are just glorified civil servants overseeing the administration of the EU, department heads rather than political figures.

You'll be wanting the civil service to be elected next you daft bugger...

Originally Posted by Switch

Just to prove what an ill informed first class thundercunt you really are.

The merging of the executive bodies in 1967 did not affect the composition of the Council. The Council of the European Communities continued to be composed of representatives from the Member States. Each Member State appointed to the Council one of the members of its government.

Note the very special word in that quote. Appointed

Note the same special word appears in my post you quoted, or didn't you not notice?

Maybe you also didn't notice the end of the sentence from your own post? "Each Member State appointed to the Council one of the members of its government."

That means each and every EU country gets to appoint a member of their own government to the council.

Originally Posted by foobar

Note the same special word appears in my post you quoted, or didn't you not notice?

Maybe you also didn't notice the end of the sentence from your own post? "[/FONT][/COLOR]Each Member State appointed to the Council one of the members of its government."

That means each and every EU country gets to appoint a member of their own government to the council.

why do I hear that massive whooshing sound every time you post.

As i said Chas, the EU, i.e an association of 28 democratic states whose governments were all elected on democratic principles, enacted a raft of legislative measures, in accordance with democratic protocols jointly agreed by all 28 democratic countries, which since 1999 were only challenged by the UK government on 2% of occasions.

Which bit of that do you still not grasp, you silly Kipper Tory Brexit nationalistic nazi twat.

Originally Posted by Troy

Are you still labouring over the appointment of EU commissioners? Why are you so worried about them being selected from a pool of proposals from individual governments? Appointed rather than directly elected by people who don't really have a clue who's who anyway.

In the end they are just glorified civil servants overseeing the administration of the EU, department heads rather than political figures.

You'll be wanting the civil service to be elected next you daft bugger...

Another whoosh moment. Consider what they do, then ask yourself if them being appointed, instead of elected, is a dood idea?

Originally Posted by Switch

Another whoosh moment. Consider what they do, then ask yourself if them being appointed, instead of elected, is a dood idea?

I have and I do...now you explain what is so wrong instead of having whoosh moments.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

As i said Chas, the EU, i.e an association of 28 democratic states whose governments were all elected on democratic principles, enacted a raft of legislative measures, in accordance with democratic protocols jointly agreed by all 28 democratic countries, which since 1999 were only challenged by the UK government on 2% of occasions.


Which bit of that do you still not grasp, you silly Kipper Tory Brexit nationalistic nazi twat.

The system is inherently flawed. It’s the direct link between the corruption and failings of EU policy, and the situation you find yourself in today. Confused, angry, broken and lost.

Why do you insist on calling a stranger a kipper. It just makes you appear stupid as well as bereft. I’m not a Tory and I’m not a nazi either. It’s like me comparing you with Junker, Corbyn or Abbott. A bit childish for an adult don’t you think?
Up your game and take your faux intellect with you.

Originally Posted by Switch

why do I hear that massive whooshing sound every time

i'm sorry, but you simply cannot have your cake and eat it. You are either a normal, well-adjusted, reasonable, intelligent and civilised person or you are a loathsome, bigoted, stupid, deluded, fuckwitted Brexit cvunt with his head up his arse.

Originally Posted by Troy

I have and I do...now you explain what is so wrong instead of having whoosh moments.

see my reply to the gent. How can you possibly trust the motives of 28 leaders of political parties to be fair and balanced. I don’t expect altruism under that system, but I don’t appreciate individual states rewarding a socialist agenda, by putting their supporters on the gravy train.
Its not so terribly difficult to elect them instead of strangers making political gestures by appointing them.

How can the current can of worms be democratic under such a scheme? Why do you think the UK has decided to leave, instead of staying in and trying to reform it from within?

Originally Posted by Switch

Why do you think the UK has decided to leave, instead of staying in and trying to reform it from within?

"The UK" hasn't decided, The Daily Mail hordes of this insular place have been lead by the nose to the voting troughs.

Originally Posted by Switch

Why do you think the UK has decided to leave, instead of staying in and trying to reform it from within?

Oh! Oh!

I know this one!

Because the place is full of witless idiots for whom time has essentially stood still since 1945, leaving them with a laughably over-inflated sense of their own importance like you.

That plus the fact that some under 60 just didn't really get the question the first time around.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Oh! Oh!

I know this one!

Because the place is full of witless idiots for whom time has essentially stood still since 1945, leaving them with a laughably over-inflated sense of their own importance like you.

That plus the fact that some under 60 just didn't really get the question the first time around.

Why is that Cy. Was the question, stay or leave, too hard for you to wrap that brain cell around?

The UK has moved on since the days of the industrial revolution, empire and World War Two. Perhaps you should too?

Originally Posted by foobar

whoosh, that's the sound of him soaking his diaper

Originally Posted by Switch

see my reply to the gent. How can you possibly trust the motives of 28 leaders of political parties to be fair and balanced. I don’t expect altruism under that system, but I don’t appreciate individual states rewarding a socialist agenda, by putting their supporters on the gravy train.
Its not so terribly difficult to elect them instead of strangers making political gestures by appointing them.

How can the current can of worms be democratic under such a scheme? Why do you think the UK has decided to leave, instead of staying in and trying to reform it from within?

I see, so you think that the majority of the UK electorate voted Brexit because their EU commissioner was appointed and not elected. Or are you proposing the insane notion of the whole EU electorate voting for each countries' commissioner...wow that would be fun wouldn't it. DOH!

When exactly did you have this whoosh moment? I think you may need to lie down while someone calls the nurse.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

whoosh, that's the sound of him soaking his diaper

You really shouldn’t give your log in details to FRT. Repeting gifs and commentary is not only dull, it’s a sign that you have lost the plot as well as the debate.