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    The Palestinians had their own currency under the British mandate.
    The Palestine pound was the currency until 1949 in all of British mandate Palestine, and until 1950 in the West Bank portion of Palestine

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    Show me one country, besides occupied Palestine, where the indigenous people do not have citizenship and basic human rights in their own homeland?
    I'm a bit slow. What citizenship did those people have under Ottoman rule prior to British Mandate ?
    They were Ottomans. Same idea as the EU is planning, to get rid of nation states and leave European as the nationality for one and all.

    1925-48, they were Palestinians citizens, same as other peoples within the British Empire were nationals of their own countries. However, they were nobbled in this as the zionist british rulers set up the edicts of their nationality in such a way as to ensure that arabs, who greater in number that their Jewish friends, would not be dominant in terms of local power. To be fair to the brits, they were trying to address the principal flaw in democracy (2 wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner) but they tilted it too far which ended up in 1 wolf and 5 sheep, with the wolf being able to decide what was for dinner..... usually arabs.

    All settlers entering Palestine were granted Palestinian Citizenship after 2 years. However it was not quite so straight forward as from the very beginning, unlike most other countries that were consumed by the British empire, they got involved with the different religious sects there, and accorded different rights to people based upon their religions. This was a major fault and brought about by the zionists who were tilting the table to favour the out numbered jewish settlers. What would have been a fairly simple process as it was in many other countries, it became very complicated where they had to, under pressure from the zionist terrorists and money men, had to find a way to give a semblance of fairness, whilst ensuring that the jewish settlers would be dominant, but not making it so obvious in a way that the real proper and true people of Palestine would get the hump. They needed to avoid the Arab Palestinians, that were 92% of the people, seeing themselves getting completely shafted, and turning on the jewish settlers and kicking them out so they did it by stealth, calling everyone British Protected nationals, but with some (jewish) being more protected than others. Animal Farm style basically, and surprise surprise it, as always, events ended up exactly the same as they did in that book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    The Palestinians had their own currency under the British mandate.
    The Palestine pound was the currency until 1949 in all of British mandate Palestine,
    FFS, ENT. You and your (wrong) dates. If you're going to discuss the British mandate, at least swat up on the basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post

    Fact nothing. Too stupid? Hmm like the sauds? Iranians? Iraqis? Syrians? too stupid to issue concessions for exploration for gas?
    Only stupid one in that regard is you pal. Stupid fool - fucking hell, when you were genitally mutilated as a kid mate, they seem to have thrown the smartest best part of you away because all that is left typing your hate filled shite is a shriveled up foreskin with a rabbi's teeth mark still on it.
    Hate filled shite ??
    Fact: these countries that you mentioned above can't do anything on their own without western help (non-muslim).
    Sorry but it seems to me that you got your FACTS screwed up once again.
    If these countries throw their beloved book called the Quran in the trash there is big hope of recovering from a 1400 year ole brain damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    They had full rights of citizenship in Palestine- freedom of movement, to buy and sell land and houses, engage in free trade etc. If you want to know how these rights were defined/ enshrined under Ottoman rule, you'll have to do your own research. They had the same rights as a Jordanian within Transjordan, or an Egyptian within Egypt.
    They were subjects of the Ottoman Empire whether they felt like citizens or not.
    In fact Jerusalem was governed directly by Constantinople and the territory was divided into three separate 'sanjaks' (districts). The districts did have representation in the Ottoman Parliament.

    My research is pointing more and more into the utter vileness of British diplomacy...which basically bears full responsibility on what took place while the territory was under Mandate...and where tha ball dropped in 1948.
    Many parties became part and parcel burdened under British 'diplomacy' not only in the ME and SE Pacific but Europe as well.
    If one wants to point fingers and play the 'Blame Game' - that is squarely where the Pound drops, at Whitehall's doorstep.

    We're at a juncture where Israel should stop it's encroachment on territories captured in 1967...but unfortunately will not due to its own perception of defensive military strategy and national security interests. That is the sad reality.
    (I don't have a definitive answer. Neither does the rest of the world currently regardless of what Pseudolus thinks.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    The Palestinians had their own currency under the British mandate.
    The Palestine pound was the currency until 1949 in all of British mandate Palestine,
    FFS, ENT. You and your (wrong) dates. If you're going to discuss the British mandate, at least swat up on the basics.

    I think you'd better do that, as you seem a little confused on the dates.

    Read about it.

    The Palestine pound (Arabic: جُنَيْه فِلَسْطَينِيّ‎, junyah filastini; Hebrew: פֿוּנְט פַּלֶשְׂתִינָאִי א"י)), funt palestina'i (eretz-yisra'eli), also Hebrew: לירה א"י)) lira eretz-yisra'elit) was the currency of the British Mandate of Palestine from 1927 to May 14, 1948, and of the State of Israel between May 15, 1948, and August 1948, when it was replaced with the Israeli lira. It was divided into 1000 mils (Arabic: Arabic: مِل‎, Hebrew: Hebrew: מִיל‎). The Palestine pound was also the currency of Transjordan until 1949 and remained in usage in the West Bank portion of Palestine until 1950.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_pound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    The Palestinians had their own currency under the British mandate.
    Notes issued by the Anglo Palestine Company, which was the spawn of the Jewish Colonial Trust which was funded and controlled by the Rothchilds. The JCT passed on all of these rights to its daughter company, the Anglo-Palestine Bank in 1934, and that then created almost immediately the General Mortgage Bank of Palestine, again a Rothschild entity, that gave them complete autonomy on money creation of money in Palestine, the ability to chose who could and could not get credit and investment, and the terms of this (jewish settlers and interlopers got investment, the ethnic Palestinians got debt slavery in a nutshell). After all, who control the creation of money controls the country as the people of the USA need to wake up to one day.

    Just more evidence that israel is no more than a private fiefdom of the Rothchilds family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    Show me one country, besides occupied Palestine, where the indigenous people do not have citizenship and basic human rights in their own homeland?
    I'm a bit slow. What citizenship did those people have under Ottoman rule prior to British Mandate ?
    They were Ottomans. Same idea as the EU is planning, to get rid of nation states and leave European as the nationality for one and all.

    1925-48, they were Palestinians citizens, same as other peoples within the British Empire were nationals of their own countries. However, they were nobbled in this as the zionist british rulers set up the edicts of their nationality in such a way as to ensure that arabs, who greater in number that their Jewish friends, would not be dominant in terms of local power. To be fair to the brits, they were trying to address the principal flaw in democracy (2 wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner) but they tilted it too far which ended up in 1 wolf and 5 sheep, with the wolf being able to decide what was for dinner..... usually arabs.

    All settlers entering Palestine were granted Palestinian Citizenship after 2 years. However it was not quite so straight forward as from the very beginning, unlike most other countries that were consumed by the British empire, they got involved with the different religious sects there, and accorded different rights to people based upon their religions. This was a major fault and brought about by the zionists who were tilting the table to favour the out numbered jewish settlers. What would have been a fairly simple process as it was in many other countries, it became very complicated where they had to, under pressure from the zionist terrorists and money men, had to find a way to give a semblance of fairness, whilst ensuring that the jewish settlers would be dominant, but not making it so obvious in a way that the real proper and true people of Palestine would get the hump. They needed to avoid the Arab Palestinians, that were 92% of the people, seeing themselves getting completely shafted, and turning on the jewish settlers and kicking them out so they did it by stealth, calling everyone British Protected nationals, but with some (jewish) being more protected than others. Animal Farm style basically, and surprise surprise it, as always, events ended up exactly the same as they did in that book.
    This is one of your most concise narratives without the barbs. Well written and aimed at the target.(IMHO)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    utter vileness of British diplomacy.
    This is true. However, you need to look at the slightly wider picture and understand where the balfour declaration came from and it's implications. If you are researching, then you need to ask why Britain was forced into World War 1, or indeed why there was a World War in the first place. There didn't need to be, but it was manufactured.

    The British empire tended not to interfere with peoples religions, which is why there are very strong links and close ties between Britain and the commonwealth countries still today... except in Palestine. Fucking with peoples religion was basically counter intuitive and is the fastest way to get dissent from the masses so the Brits invariably didn't bother. However, the Zionist extremists had been working the 6,000,000 jews in peril and slaughter propaganda for 50 years before the British Palestine Mandate all aiming to get their nation state and when after WW1, a nearly bankrupt Britain went on the beg borrowing from the Rothchilds and the like, the terms of their bailouts were not just that they would create money out of thin air as inflation causing interest bearing debt (yes, they didn't lend anything, but created money) but that there would be the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Again, he who controls the ability to create money, controls the country.

    So yes, the Brits are to blame, but it was the zionist scum who were pushing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    One interesting future mooted for the Golan is that of a free trade zone, perhaps with joint Israeli/ Syrian territorial status. There could be considerable economic benefits for both nations. But of course that could never happen with Syria........

    ....or any Muslim country. Because Forgiveness-Love-Understanding is unheard of in Islam.

    There was some idiot here on this forum who mentioned something about Alsace!!!! Alsace is a good example of how Forgiveness, Love, and understanding work. German savages attacked France a few decades ago and now those savages can go back to France build houses, go on vacation, live there, shopping etc.
    Jews are coming back to live in the country that their ancestors got brutally killed.

    Life goes on ! Unless you are a Muslim !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    This is one of your most concise narratives without the barbs. Well written and aimed at the target.(IMHO)
    Bugger it - will try harder next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    This is one of your most concise narratives without the barbs. Well written and aimed at the target.(IMHO)
    Bugger it - will try harder next time.

    So maybe we can stop the discussion with one last line of shite:

    Jews control the world and there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
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    This is one of your most concise narratives without the barbs. Well written and aimed at the target.(IMHO)
    Bugger it - will try harder next time.

    So maybe we can stop the discussion with one last line of shite:

    Jews control the world and there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of God.
    The problem with you zionist brainwahsed monkeys ... when push comes to shove, at the end of the day, when all is said and done, when the cards have been dealt, you are nothing but a bunch of brainless clueless sociopathic dick heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    This is one of your most concise narratives without the barbs. Well written and aimed at the target.(IMHO)
    Bugger it - will try harder next time.

    So maybe we can stop the discussion with one last line of shite:

    Jews control the world and there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of God.
    The problem with you zionist brainwahsed monkeys ... when push comes to shove, at the end of the day, when all is said and done, when the cards have been dealt, you are nothing but a bunch of brainless clueless sociopathic dick heads.
    One thing about Zionists though they are not that mentally inflicted to strap 10 kgs of Semtex to their bodies shout out the name of who they worship and then blow themselves to kingdom come in the belief that a load of virgins await them in the after life

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    No - they skip breakfast on those days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    The Palestinians had their own currency under the British mandate.
    The Palestine pound was the currency until 1949 in all of British mandate Palestine,
    FFS, ENT. You and your (wrong) dates. If you're going to discuss the British mandate, at least swat up on the basics.

    I think you'd better do that, as you seem a little confused on the dates.

    Read about it.

    The Palestine pound (Arabic: جُنَيْه فِلَسْطَينِيّ‎, junyah filastini; Hebrew: פֿוּנְט פַּלֶשְׂתִינָאִי א"י)), funt palestina'i (eretz-yisra'eli), also Hebrew: לירה א"י)) lira eretz-yisra'elit) was the currency of the British Mandate of Palestine from 1927 to May 14, 1948, and of the State of Israel between May 15, 1948, and August 1948, when it was replaced with the Israeli lira. It was divided into 1000 mils (Arabic: Arabic: مِل‎, Hebrew: Hebrew: מִיל‎). [B]The Palestine pound was also the currency of Transjordan until 1949 and remained in usage in the West Bank portion of Palestine until 1950.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_pound
    You don't even read or understand what you yourself have copied and pasted into your own post.

    "The Palestine pound ... was the currency of the British Mandate of Palestine from 1927 to May 14, 1948"

    The British Mandate of Palestine did not exist in 1949.


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    So what?

    Palestine did, as "The Palestine pound was also the currency of Transjordan until 1949 and remained in usage in the West Bank portion of Palestine until 1950.", Transjordan being part of Palestine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    So yes, the Brits are to blame, but it was the zionist scum who were pushing it.
    And the Americans.

    President Wilson’s hostility to annexation by Britain and France led instead to the Mandate system being imposed on the Arab lands of the Ottoman Empire.

    And a study by the intelligence section of the American Commission to Negotiate Peace at Versailles recommended Britain as the Mandate, a Palestinian state and increased immigration leading to a Jewish state recognised by the League of Nations.

    President Wilson declared his support for a Jewish commonwealth (aka, a Jewish national home).

    President Harold S. Truman felt that there had to be a solution to the Jewish problem. He was a supporter of Zionism and a member of the pro-Zionist APC in 1941) He wrote to the British P.M. Clement Attlee Truman requesting that 100,000 Jewish refugees be allowed to settle in Palestine.

    Truman supported partition. He told the State Department (which was against partition with separate Jewish and Arab states), “I am sorry, gentlemen, but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands who are anxious for the success of Zionism: I do not have hundreds of thousands of Arabs as my constituents”

    Truman instructed the State Department to put pressure on those voting at the UN who were not committed to partition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Transjordan being part of Palestine.
    Transjordan was never part of Palestine.

    Even under the British mandate- which did not confer sovereignty, Transjordan and Palestine were never parts of the British Empire- it was a self administering entity. Palestine was directly administered, Transjordan not.

    The civil Mandate administration was formalized with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine, which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948. The land east of the Jordan, a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, gained independence in 1946.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

    I hope, with this oft repeated and not so subtle zionist lie, you are not feeding into the right wing Zionist dream of pushing 5 million Palestinians from their ancestral homeland into the lands east of the Jordan River. If so, your ugly fantasy amounts to ethnic cleansing and even genocide, as well as the wholesale invasion and population clearing of another sovereign state.

    Nice try. Not.

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    The Demographic history of Palestine refers to the study of the historical population of the region of Palestine, defined as the modern State of Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian territories, or the territory defined by the borders of the 1923-48 Mandatory Palestine.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine#Official_reports

    Funny how pro-Arab claims push the number of Arabs leaving Israeli Palestine since Israeli independence rise from 850.000 to your now claimed 5 million


    Nice try,....but fail.

    Last edited by ENT; 30-04-2016 at 04:45 PM.

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    ^ yes Ent. However, Transjordan was never part of Palestine.

    Amazing how stunningly low on actual facts these zionist fools are.

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    Again, Jordan/ Transjordan was never part of Palestine. Never.

    The Demographic history of Palestine refers to the study of the historical population of .... 1923-48 Mandatory Palestine
    So what? It seems to me the misleadingly termed "Demographic history of Palestine" is just a zionist ruse, designed to perpetuate a zionist lie in the feeble minded. That is bad enough, but the utterly ugly agenda that underlines it makes it appalling.

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    So you reckon Transjordan was somehow just floating around somewhere waiting to be recognized before the British created it out of their share of the Ottoman Empire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Again, Jordan/ Transjordan was never part of Palestine. Never.

    The Demographic history of Palestine refers to the study of the historical population of .... 1923-48 Mandatory Palestine
    So what? It seems to me the misleadingly termed "Demographic history of Palestine" is just a zionist ruse, designed to perpetuate a zionist lie in the feeble minded. That is bad enough, but the utterly ugly agenda that underlines it makes it appalling.
    Ah, now any reference to Transjordan as being part of mandated Palestine is just another Zionist ruse, eh?


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    Anyway, sabang, where did you get that 5,000,000 figure for displaced Arabs from?

    Can you give a reference for it?

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