Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Whilst I admire the effort you guys are wasting your time.

ENT will never admit that he's wrong, he'll just keep lying, shifting the goal posts, obfuscating, and creating his own alternate realities. Dude is entirely incapable of using logic and reason.

Hey ENT , I suppose you have noticed that the Pali brigade are getting increasingly desperate to try and prove their point by coming out with personal insults like dick head and Scum Etc Etc, for having the sheer audacity to not think as they do

No problem. They're just showing form.

Originally Posted by ENT

No problem. They're just showing form.

Yeah and we had better watch for our spelling mistake's , a sure sign of desperation when they have to resort to pointing out mistakes as though it has any real bearing on the actual message

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah and we had better watch for our spelling mistake's

Netanyahu Tells Putin in Moscow: Golan Heights Is a 'Red Line' for Israel


Russian President Vladimir Putin meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia, April 21, 2016. Alexander Nemenov, Reuters

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting in Moscow on Thursday that the Golan Heights must remain a part of Israel and is a "red line".

Netanyahu arrived in Moscow on Thursday to discuss closer military coordination to avoid incidents between Israel and Russia, which launched a military operation in support of Syrian President Bashar Assad last year. The meeting is also attended by Immigrant Absorption Minister Zeev Elkin, Israel Air Force chief Amir Eshel and acting National Security Council head Jacob Nagel.

"We are doing everything to prevent the emergence of an additional front of terror against us at the Golan Heights," Netanyahu said at the start of the meeting.

Netanyahu has expressed concern to Russia's president that sophisticated weapons from Syria and Iraq could end up in the hands of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, a close ally of the Syrian government.

Netanyahu said Israel will insist on its red lines, either the transfer of weaponry from Iran and Syria to Hezbollah or the opening of a front against Israel in the Golan Heights.

"These are [our] red lines, and we will continue to ensure" that they are not crossed, Netanyahu said. "With an agreement or without an agreement, the Golan Heights will remain under Israeli sovereignty."

A senior commander said that "Israel isn't concerned that Russia will assume an active role in the attempt to return the Golan Heights to Syrian hands. The main fear is that Russia will agree to such requests which have already been brought to the negotiations table by the Syrian side."

U.S. State Department spokesperson John Kirby stressed Monday night that the Obama administration does not consider the Golan Heights to be part of Israel, a day after Netanyahu vowed they "will forever remain under Israeli sovereignty."

"The U.S. position on the issue is unchanged," Kirby told reporters during a daily briefing at the State Department in Washington. "This position was maintained by both Democratic and Republican administrations. Those territories are not part of Israel and the status of those territories should be determined through negotiations. The current situation in Syria does not allow this," Kirby added.

Israel captured the Golan from Syria in the 1967 Six Day War and annexed it in 1981.

Netanyahu Tells Putin in Moscow: Golan Heights Is a 'Red Line' for Israel - Israel News - Haaretz

USA and Israel, the dog and tail syndrome.

At least with Russia Israel knows who they're dealing with, and how to, without getting shafted into another murky US sponsored Arab-Israel deal.

Originally Posted by ENT

USA and Israel, the dog and tail syndrome.

At least with Russia Israel knows who they're dealing with, and how to, without getting shafted into another murky US sponsored Arab-Israel deal.

Which do you think is the Dog, and which is the tail, Ent?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah and we had better watch for our spelling mistake's

Thats one of Piwis best one's.

It's a good 'un for sure but he has used it before.

Still amusing but in danger of becoming a bit rote and stale if he doesn't add some new material to his clown act soon.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

USA and Israel, the dog and tail syndrome.

At least with Russia Israel knows who they're dealing with, and how to, without getting shafted into another murky US sponsored Arab-Israel deal.

Which do you think is the Dog, and which is the tail, Ent?

It depends on who is the tail of the lion, and who is the head of the fox.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah and we had better watch for our spelling mistake's

Thats one of Piwis best one's.

Behold I am the fisher of men

Netanyahu, Putin met amid reports of aerial incidents over Syria

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's meeting with Russia's President Vladimir Putin on Thursday was held amid reporters that Russian fighter jets fired at Israel Air Force aircraft on at least two occasions.

The issues was raised during Israeli President Reuven Rivlin's visit to Moscow, when Putin claimed this was the first he had heard of it.

Then a few days ago, a Russian fighter jet was scrambled to intercept an Israeli aircraft for an unknown reason. There was no contact made between the planes, and the Israeli plane carried on its way.

"I came here with one main goal – to strengthen the security coordination between us so as to avoid mishaps, misunderstandings and unnecessary confrontations," Netanyahu said ahead of the three-hour meeting with Putin, which focused on the situation in Syria and particularly on its border with Israel.

Putin told Netanyahu that he was happy the two countries were having regular contacts at the highest ranks, and noted the security cooperation between Moscow and Jerusalem was necessary because of the complex situation in the region.

"During the meeting, it was agreed that GOC Air Force Maj.-Gen. Amir Eshel and my Military Secretary, Brig.-Gen. Eliezer Toledano, will hold a special meeting with the Russian Defense Minister and several other generals. They will meet and discuss – in a detailed and efficient manner – the coordination between our militaries and several other issues that have recently arisen," he said following the meeting.

"I think that this is vital because we must maintain freedom of action for the IDF and the air force in places that are important to us vis-à-vis our security, and I think that this was achieved," the prime minister added.

More here.
Netanyahu, Putin met amid reports of aerial incidents over Syria - Israel News, Ynetnews

Originally Posted by ENT

The "Palestine" many refer to is limited to approximately 23% of the original mandated Palestine, after 77% of Palestine was ceded to the rule of the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan. The original territory of Mandated Palestine was described by the League of Nations as;

" The British Mandate for Palestine, shortly Mandate for Palestine, or the Palestine Mandate was a League of Nations mandate for the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern part of the Vilayet of Syria,[1] the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United... ed_Partition



Original Palestine mandate territory 1920.



Remaining Palestine mandate territory 1922, after Britain ceded all to the east of the Jordan River to the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan.




In fact;

“Palestine and Jordan are one…” said King Abdullah of Jordan in 1948.

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly, February 2, 1970.

“..Jordanians and Palestinians are considered by the PLO as one people,” said Farouk Kaddoumi, then head of the PLO Political Department. ( Newsweek, March 14, 1977.)

“The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.” said Abdul Hamid Sharif, (Prime Minister of Jordan) in 1980.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan” said King Hussein of Jordan in 1981.

Ent- you are being a bellend, and will have your name inserted into the Top 5 TD bellends list shortly. Be very aware of who is backing you up on all your rubbish, mr village idiot himself, Piwanoi.

1946 - the partitioned areas of the Palestine Mandate that became Transjordan was formally handed over and that became trans-jordan. All of you ADL hate pamphlet maps that you are posting up are wrong, because from 1946 onward, the Palestinian Mandate was only the area that is Palestine (and israel, less its stolen Syrian land) today. So any map or thoughts you have post 1946 are not valid.

But to repeat, and this is very important, PIWI is your only backer on this. That should be enough to prove to you that you are wrong, because he is a clueless twat on anything other than whippets

Originally Posted by pseudolus

PIWI is your only backer on this.

And even Piwanoi isn't supporting the claims ENT makes. It's just 'moral' support.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by pseudolus

PIWI is your only backer on this.

And even Piwanoi isn't supporting the claims ENT makes. It's just 'moral' support.

Yeah good point. He can tell when a fellow moron is flapping around helplessly being shown up to be a fool, so is trying to show Ent who to advance to being a complete and utter laughing stock like Piwi is. Friends like that, who need enemas.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

The "Palestine" many refer to is limited to approximately 23% of the original mandated Palestine, after 77% of Palestine was ceded to the rule of the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan. The original territory of Mandated Palestine was described by the League of Nations as;

" The British Mandate for Palestine, shortly Mandate for Palestine, or the Palestine Mandate was a League of Nations mandate for the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern part of the Vilayet of Syria,[1] the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United... ed_Partition



Original Palestine mandate territory 1920.



Remaining Palestine mandate territory 1922, after Britain ceded all to the east of the Jordan River to the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan.




In fact;

“Palestine and Jordan are one…” said King Abdullah of Jordan in 1948.

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly, February 2, 1970.

“..Jordanians and Palestinians are considered by the PLO as one people,” said Farouk Kaddoumi, then head of the PLO Political Department. ( Newsweek, March 14, 1977.)

“The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.” said Abdul Hamid Sharif, (Prime Minister of Jordan) in 1980.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan” said King Hussein of Jordan in 1981.

1946 - the partitioned areas of the Palestine Mandate that became Transjordan was formally handed over and that became trans-jordan. All of you ADL hate pamphlet maps that you are posting up are wrong, because from 1946 onward, the Palestinian Mandate was only the area that is Palestine (and israel, less its stolen Syrian land) today. So any map or thoughts you have post 1946 are not valid.

Finally, you accept that "the partitioned areas of the Palestine Mandate that became Transjordan" existed as such under the terms of the mandate for Palestine, and were handed over to become (sic) "trans-jordan".

Agreed, and thank you.

The statements I posted above made by successive Jordanian rulers and officials confirm that Palestine and Jordan are one, as I've asserted, as have many others familiar with the history of developments in Palestine.

However, Britain decided to exempt the territory of Transjordan from the provisions of mandate. Therefore a British memorandum was presented to the League of Nations in 1922 where it was affirmed that the mandate document and its provisions were not pertinent to the territory separated by the British known as Transjordan.

In March of 1921, Abdullah signed a formal agreement with Winston Churchill along with TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia).

Subsequently the part of mandated Palestine created and named by the British as Transjordan was handed over to the administration of the Sheriff of Mecca in 1922, (not 1946 as you stated).

At the termination of the British mandate for Palestine, in May 1948, that particular territory (also known as Palestinian Transjordan), was then formally and totally ceded to the Sheriff of Mecca.

This was 77% of the originally mandated territory of Palestine.

Abdullah was appointed to govern Transjordan, supervised by the British high commissioner in Palestine while as a separate Arab entity in Palestine east of the Jordan, and creating a Jewish national territory in Palestine, west of the Jordan."

In 1923 Britain finally formally recognized Transjordan governed by Emir Abdullah.
Britain had distanced itself from this arrangement until the Anglo-Transjordanian Agreement of 1928.

Transjordan finally became independent from Britain in 1946.

Can we get back to discussing the Golan Heights now?

Wot if I ain't done bashing the Israeli's yet? They deserve a real kicking.

Bash them about the Golan Heights.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Can we get back to discussing the Golan Heights now?

If you read my above post carefully you'll find the bit about the disputed Golan there, Nevenema.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Can we get back to discussing the Golan Heights now?

If you read my above post carefully you'll find the bit about the disputed Golan there

None of your other posts on this page mention the Golan Heights.

Originally Posted by sabang

Wot if I ain't done bashing the Israeli's yet? They deserve a real kicking.

Don't let the truth get in the way of your lies, subbung, it'd spoil your weekend.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Can we get back to discussing the Golan Heights now?

If you read my above post carefully you'll find the bit about the disputed Golan there

None of your other posts on this page mention the Golan Heights.

Liar.