Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Zionist. And his DAD. You really are illiterate, aren't you, piwaCILE? Mad mullah of bumfuck isaan.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Egypt anger over 1967 'massacre'

jesus....even the lying zionist pro israel BBC reported on it. Drop the number though ... 250.



Here they are - a nice holiday snap prior to the massacre.

Ben Eliezer is a fraud, an extortor, a liar, and a blood thirsty monster. You will love him!

Must be weird for you piwaCILE - you spend your life knowing nothing, and when you learn new things from me, you must have a sean connery as you rush to Pat Condom to see what he has to say about it. Ignorant - completely ignorant. Two world events that you have absolutely no knowledge off. Your piwibrain must be blowing up around now.

Nah that Photo proves fuck all , you stated quite clearly that the 400 Egyptian POW murders by the Israeli's was well publicized , is it too much to ask for you to produce just one? cos the BBC article proves SFA ,now FFS either put up or STFU .

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Drop the number though ... 250.

As usual, dick.

Drop them any lower you'll have a prolapse..

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Drop the number though ... 250.

As usual, dick.

Drop them any lower you'll have a prolapse..

You didn't read the BBC article did you... it says 1000.

Thing is, you don't mind the NAZIesque murder of POW's do you? If it had been 1 israeli though you would have been calling for nukes.

You and piwacile really are grotesque subhumans

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Here they are - a nice holiday snap prior to the massacre.

Bullshit.

Wrong head-gear, wrong rifle, wrong war, wrong bunch of prisoners for your pseudo-factoid.

Why would I read that all Ent?

You seem to rely on wikipedia for everything? Like these pro israel shout everyone down merchants you see in debates. They actually know nothing, and when they hear about something new, they, like you, go to Wikipedia to get their version of history about it, and then the ADL to get how to turn it into ANTI SEMITISM and to make israel the victim.

I have already posted the link for CAMERA

CAMERA, the A.D.L., AIPAC and the rest of the lobby don't want fairness, but bias in their favor. And they are prepared to use McCarthyite tactics, as well as the power and money of pro-Israel PACs, to get whatever Israel wants.

Journalist and author Robert I. Friedman

They replace factual information on wikipedia with other versions that change it to being a Pro Israel story. It is all they do.

Now you will think that is a good thing. Historical facts? What good are they is they show israel in a bad light.

What more do you need? The pilots of the plane said before the attack "Is that a US lag? Yes" and the attack commenced.

The ship was in international waters. It is allowed to be there. israel was and is an ally of the USA.

What more proof do you need that it was intentional?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Why would I read that all Ent?

You seem to rely on wikipedia for everything? Like these pro israel shout everyone down merchants you see in debates. They actually know nothing, and when they hear about something new, they, like you, go to Wikipedia to get their version of history about it, and then the ADL to get how to turn it into ANTI SEMITISM and to make israel the victim.

I have already posted the link for CAMERA

CAMERA, the A.D.L., AIPAC and the rest of the lobby don't want fairness, but bias in their favor. And they are prepared to use McCarthyite tactics, as well as the power and money of pro-Israel PACs, to get whatever Israel wants.

Journalist and author Robert I. Friedman

They replace factual information on wikipedia with other versions that change it to being a Pro Israel story. It is all they do.

Now you will think that is a good thing. Historical facts? What good are they is they show israel in a bad light.

What more do you need? The pilots of the plane said before the attack "Is that a US lag? Yes" and the attack commenced.

The ship was in international waters. It is allowed to be there. israel was and is an ally of the USA.

What more proof do you need that it was intentional?

So you have concrete proof then that every single word written about the USS liberty tragedy in my post 562 is a total fabrication then? yes or no?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Why would I read that all Ent?

You seem to rely on wikipedia for everything? Like these pro israel shout everyone down merchants you see in debates. They actually know nothing, and when they hear about something new, they, like you, go to Wikipedia to get their version of history about it, and then the ADL to get how to turn it into ANTI SEMITISM and to make israel the victim.

I have already posted the link for CAMERA

CAMERA, the A.D.L., AIPAC and the rest of the lobby don't want fairness, but bias in their favor. And they are prepared to use McCarthyite tactics, as well as the power and money of pro-Israel PACs, to get whatever Israel wants.

Journalist and author Robert I. Friedman

They replace factual information on wikipedia with other versions that change it to being a Pro Israel story. It is all they do.

Now you will think that is a good thing. Historical facts? What good are they is they show israel in a bad light.

What more do you need? The pilots of the plane said before the attack "Is that a US lag? Yes" and the attack commenced.

The ship was in international waters. It is allowed to be there. israel was and is an ally of the USA.

What more proof do you need that it was intentional?

So you have concrete proof then that every single word written about the USS liberty tragedy in my post 562 is a total fabrication then? yes or no?

What aside from the words of the pilots of the israeli planes, the words of the people on the USS liberty, the person who handled the communications between LBJ and the fleet commander? Besides all of that primary irrefutable proof from all sides (US and israel) that were actually involved in the event on the day? You mean besides all of that to prove that a load of misinformation and lies in a right wing israeli propaganda article is indeed a made up pile of bullshit that only an imbecile (or piwaCILE) would swallow ?

Umm no, piwi. What we have learnt with you is that you are only believe propaganda rather than factual evidence and first hand accounts. Unless is has MEMRI on it... you don't believe it. Why? Because you are an illiterate ignorant fool just like the silafist idiots you hate. Same same piwacile - mad mullah that you are.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Why would I read that all Ent?

You seem to rely on wikipedia for everything? Like these pro israel shout everyone down merchants you see in debates. They actually know nothing, and when they hear about something new, they, like you, go to Wikipedia to get their version of history about it, and then the ADL to get how to turn it into ANTI SEMITISM and to make israel the victim.

I have already posted the link for CAMERA

CAMERA, the A.D.L., AIPAC and the rest of the lobby don't want fairness, but bias in their favor. And they are prepared to use McCarthyite tactics, as well as the power and money of pro-Israel PACs, to get whatever Israel wants.

Journalist and author Robert I. Friedman

They replace factual information on wikipedia with other versions that change it to being a Pro Israel story. It is all they do.

Now you will think that is a good thing. Historical facts? What good are they is they show israel in a bad light.

What more do you need? The pilots of the plane said before the attack "Is that a US lag? Yes" and the attack commenced.

The ship was in international waters. It is allowed to be there. israel was and is an ally of the USA.

What more proof do you need that it was intentional?

So you have concrete proof then that every single word written about the USS liberty tragedy in my post 562 is a total fabrication then? yes or no?

What aside from the words of the pilots of the israeli planes, the words of the people on the USS liberty, the person who handled the communications between LBJ and the fleet commander? Besides all of that primary irrefutable proof from all sides (US and israel) that were actually involved in the event on the day? You mean besides all of that to prove that a load of misinformation and lies in a right wing israeli propaganda article is indeed a made up pile of bullshit that only an imbecile (or piwaCILE) would swallow ?

Umm no, piwi. What we have learnt with you is that you are only believe propaganda rather than factual evidence and first hand accounts. Unless is has MEMRI on it... you don't believe it. Why? Because you are an illiterate ignorant fool just like the silafist idiots you hate. Same same piwacile - mad mullah that you are.

The Words of the USS liberty service men are in the article in my post 562 proving it was accidental ,you just cannot be bothered to read it ,cos your anti Israeli /Jewish bigoted mind will not allow it .

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Why would I read that all Ent?


The ship was in international waters. It is allowed to be there. israel was and is an ally of the USA.

What more proof do you need that it was intentional?

Haven't you woken up to the fact that it's not written for you, precious, that it's written for others to read, so that they can compare it with the total pack of lies you're spinning?

We're not talking to you most of the time, just about you and your stupid claims.


The USS Liberty was in a war zone, and had been ordered out of it by the US government, but for some unfathomable reason chose to stay instead.

Tough shit.

What about Dwight Porter, American Ambassador to Lebanon.

He confirmed that a member of his staff at the embassy in Beirut had shown him intercepted communications between the attacking Israeli pilots and their headquarters starting some time before the pilot sighted the ship that was their target. Once sighting the target, the lead pilot informed his controlling headquarters that the target was in sight and it was an American ship flying an American flag. He asked for confirmation of orders to attack and was told to attack. The pilot expressed some reluctance but was ordered to attack and did so.

He lying as well?

Originally Posted by ENT

The USS Liberty was in a war zone,

It was in international waters, and not in a "war zone"

Originally Posted by ENT

The USS Liberty was in a war zone, and had been ordered out of it by the US government, but for some unfathomable reason chose to stay instead.

Passive acceptance then that israel knew it was an American ship full of americans, attacked it and tried to sink it with no survivors, which LBJ covered up, and you think they deserved it. Let me guess, poor israel, were the victim again?

Well at least you are slightly different to piwacile, bEnt. He is just stupid. You though are malicious.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

The USS Liberty was in a war zone,

It was in international waters, and not in a "war zone"

Originally Posted by ENT

The USS Liberty was in a war zone, and had been ordered out of it by the US government, but for some unfathomable reason chose to stay instead.

Passive acceptance then that israel knew it was an American ship full of americans, attacked it and tried to sink it with no survivors, which LBJ covered up, and you think they deserved it. Let me guess, poor israel, were the victim again?

Well at least you are slightly different to piwacile, bEnt. He is just stupid. You though are malicious.

Like hell I am.
I pointed out the obvious, something you can't stomach, jew-basher.

Passive acceptance? Nothing like it.
If Israel wanted to sink it with no survivors as you claim, why did Israel stop the attack and offer assistance instead?

Israel had already warned USA of the consequences if US ships ventured into the area.
But some stupid seppo in command made the decision to stay in a potential danger area, thereby risking the lives of all on board the Liberty.

Israeli pilots were in conflict with each other and their commanders over the ship's ID and which orders to follow. Worse still, US Navy commanders got their signals totally wrong, for a day and a half after orders to pull out of the area were given!

WTF?!

Read all the accounts of that sinking and see how neither US nor Israel knew their ar^es from their elbows, each assuming that the other side (as well as their own) knew what was going on.

THe Liberty ended up firing at the Israelis after the mistakes had been recognized and the Israelis had ceased attacks.
against orders.

The ship was in a war zone, US gov was warned of it, US gov ordered the Liberty to stay away from there. The Liberty stayed there.

US gov needs its collective head read.

USS Liberty Veterans Association

piwaCILE - this is the words off the people on USS LIBERTY.

Every year they get together to lobby for an independent investigation, rather than the cover up one you seem to think was good. LBJ let the attack happen, and yet yo think he then allowed a real investigation into it?

Moron.

Declaration of
Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)

Counsel to the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry’s investigation into the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty


I, Ward Boston, Jr. do declare that the following statement is true and complete:

For more than 30 years, I have remained silent on the topic of USS Liberty. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them.

However, recent attempts to rewrite history compel me to share the truth.

In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th.

The late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, president of the Court, and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation into the attack, despite the fact that we both had estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry into an attack of this magnitude would take at least six months to conduct.

... The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.

I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American.

I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.

Admiral Kidd and I both felt it necessary to travel to Israel to interview the Israelis who took part in the attack. Admiral Kidd telephoned Admiral McCain to discuss making arrangements. Admiral Kidd later told me that Admiral McCain was adamant that we were not to travel to Israel or contact the Israelis concerning this matter.

.... I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Admiral Kidd told me, after returning from Washington, D.C. that he had been ordered to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Defense Department, and rewrite portions of the court’s findings.

Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.
Affidavit of Captain Ward Boston, USN, JAG (Ret.)

But perhaps we should accept the expert assurances of Ent and piwi over the Senior Naval Counsel to the enquiry.

Originally Posted by sabang

Declaration of
Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)

Counsel to the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry’s investigation into the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty


I, Ward Boston, Jr. do declare that the following statement is true and complete:

For more than 30 years, I have remained silent on the topic of USS Liberty. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them.

However, recent attempts to rewrite history compel me to share the truth.

In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th.

The late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, president of the Court, and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation into the attack, despite the fact that we both had estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry into an attack of this magnitude would take at least six months to conduct.

... The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.

I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American.

I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.

Admiral Kidd and I both felt it necessary to travel to Israel to interview the Israelis who took part in the attack. Admiral Kidd telephoned Admiral McCain to discuss making arrangements. Admiral Kidd later told me that Admiral McCain was adamant that we were not to travel to Israel or contact the Israelis concerning this matter.

.... I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Admiral Kidd told me, after returning from Washington, D.C. that he had been ordered to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Defense Department, and rewrite portions of the court’s findings.

Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.
Affidavit of Captain Ward Boston, USN, JAG (Ret.)

But perhaps we should accept the expert assurances of Ent and piwi over the Senior Naval Counsel to the enquiry.

On the other hand certain USS liberty crew members in the official Government Inquiry in my post 562 fully support the Israeli's as to their innocence, it all boils down to as to who you want to believe .

On the other hand certain USS liberty crew members in the official Government Inquiry in my post 562 fully support the Israeli's as to their innocence, it all boils down to as to who you want to believe .

Oiii Piwi

No.

The crew of the Liberty ALL say that it was a deliberate attack. Deliberate. Everyone aside from israel VICTIM mongers says it was a deliberate attack,

The Pilots
The Sailors
The Ambassador near by.
The Senior Naval Counsel to the enquiry.


Everyone. Everyone. You can keep pointing to a load of lies in your POST 562 and we will keep pointing to the fact that EVERYONE involved in it admits it was a deliberate attack by the israelis to sink and destroy the USS liberty.

You are a fucking traitor to your people, your dirty scoundrel.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

On the other hand certain USS liberty crew members in the official Government Inquiry in my post 562 fully support the Israeli's as to their innocence, it all boils down to as to who you want to believe .

Oiii Piwi

No.

The crew of the Liberty ALL say that it was a deliberate attack. Deliberate. Everyone aside from israel VICTIM mongers says it was a deliberate attack,

The Pilots
The Sailors
The Ambassador near by.
The Senior Naval Counsel to the enquiry.


Everyone. Everyone. You can keep pointing to a load of lies in your POST 562 and we will keep pointing to the fact that EVERYONE involved in it admits it was a deliberate attack by the israelis to sink and destroy the USS liberty.

You are a fucking traitor to your people, your dirty scoundrel.

And the Israeli's were STILL found innocent of a deliberate attack on a US ship and you ain't even read the article so HTF would you know

Originally Posted by piwanoi

And the Israeli's were STILL found innocent of a deliberate attack on a US ship

We know why too-

Originally Posted by sabang

I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

...Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.

Declaration of
Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

And the Israeli's were STILL found innocent of a deliberate attack on a US ship

We know why too-

Originally Posted by sabang

I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

...Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.

Declaration of
Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)

Maybe you can provide Psuedo with a bit more back up too were he claims that The Israelis made 400 Egyptian POW's dig their own graves before gunning the lot of them down , cos so far he's struggling some what to prove just another one of his usual anti Israeli trips into fantasy land .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Maybe you can provide Psuedo with a bit more back up too were he claims that The Israelis made 400 Egyptian POW's dig their own graves before gunning the lot of them down , cos so far he's struggling some what to prove just another one of his usual anti Israeli trips into fantasy land .

Ya gotta get used to pseudo's wild claims and false figures and malicious lies and take them with more than a good pinch of salt, after all he's an obvious Jew-basher.

There's not a single set of figures he's put up so far that come anywhere near the real score, while some of his claims come straight out of some fascist fantasy comedy routine, jack-boots and all.

(Oh, wait until he tells ya that some of his best friends are Jews, too.)

PS. Pseudo also loves dogs, apparently, as did Hitler

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

And the Israeli's were STILL found innocent of a deliberate attack on a US ship

We know why too-

Originally Posted by sabang

I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

...Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.

Declaration of
Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)

Is that the reason they had a public inquiry into the incident?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

And the Israeli's were STILL found innocent of a deliberate attack on a US ship

We know why too-

Originally Posted by sabang

I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

...Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.

Declaration of
Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)

Is that the reason they had a public inquiry into the incident?

Show us the link to the Public Inquiry please.

There was only the US Navy Court of Inquiry, which as proven by Sabang was rigged to exonerate israel.

The Independent commission found israel GUILTY.

Findings of the Independent Commission of Inquiry into the Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty, the Recall of Military Rescue Support Aircraft while the Ship was Under Attack, and the Subsequent Cover-up by the United States Government

CAPITOL HILL, WASHINGTON, D.C.
OCTOBER 22, 2003

ADMIRAL THOMAS H. MOORER, UNITED STATES NAVY, (RET.)
Former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
Chairman, Liberty Alliance

GENERAL RAYMOND G. DAVIS, UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS, (RET.)*
Former Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps
Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient
Vice Chairman, Liberty Alliance

REAR ADMIRAL MERLIN STARING, UNITED STATES NAVY, (RET.)
Former Judge Advocate General of the Navy
Director, Liberty Alliance

AMBASSADOR JAMES AKINS, (RET.)
Former United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia
Director, Liberty Alliance
We, the undersigned, having undertaken an independent investigation of Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty, including eyewitness testimony from surviving crewmembers, a review of naval and other official records, an examination of official statements by the Israeli and American governments, a study of the conclusions of all previous official inquiries, and a consideration of important new evidence and recent statements from individuals having direct knowledge of the attack or the cover up, hereby find the following: **

That on June 8, 1967, after eight hours of aerial surveillance, Israel launched a two-hour air and naval attack against the USS Liberty, the world’s most sophisticated intelligence ship, inflicting 34 dead and 172 wounded American servicemen (a casualty rate of seventy percent, in a crew of 294);

That the Israeli air attack lasted approximately 25 minutes, during which time unmarked Israeli aircraft dropped napalm canisters on the Liberty’s bridge, and fired 30mm cannons and rockets into our ship, causing 821 holes, more than 100 of which were rocket-size; survivors estimate 30 or more sorties were flown over the ship by a minimum of 12 attacking Israeli planes which were jamming all five American emergency radio channels;

That the torpedo boat attack involved not only the firing of torpedoes, but the machine-gunning of the Liberty’s firefighters and stretcher-bearers as they struggled to save their ship and crew; the Israeli torpedo boats later returned to machine-gun at close range three of the Liberty’s life rafts that had been lowered into the water by survivors to rescue the most seriously wounded;

That there is compelling evidence that Israel’s attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew; evidence of such intent is supported by statements from Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Undersecretary of State George Ball, former CIA director Richard Helms, former NSA directors Lieutenant General William Odom, USA (Ret.), Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter; former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Major General John Morrison, USAF (Ret.); and former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967;

That in attacking the USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against American servicemen and an act of war against the United States;

That fearing conflict with Israel, the White House deliberately prevented the U.S. Navy from coming to the defense of the Liberty by recalling Sixth Fleet military rescue support while the ship was under attack; evidence of the recall of rescue aircraft is supported by statements of Captain Joe Tully, Commanding Officer of the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga, and Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, the Sixth Fleet carrier division commander, at the time of the attack; never before in American naval history has a rescue mission been cancelled when an American ship was under attack;

That although the Liberty was saved from almost certain destruction through the heroic efforts of the ship’s Captain, William L. McGonagle (MOH), and his brave crew, surviving crewmembers were later threatened with “court-martial, imprisonment or worse” if they exposed the truth; and were abandoned by their own government;

That due to the influence of Israel’s powerful supporters in the United States, the White House deliberately covered up the facts of this attack from the American people;

That due to continuing pressure by the pro-Israel lobby in the United States, this attack remains the only serious naval incident that has never been thoroughly investigated by Congress; to this day, no surviving crewmember has been permitted to officially and publicly testify about the attack;

That there has been an official cover-up without precedent in American naval history; the existence of such a cover-up is now supported by statements of Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, USN (Ret.), former Judge Advocate General of the Navy; and Captain Ward Boston, USN, (Ret.), the chief counsel to the Navy’s 1967 Court of Inquiry of the Liberty attack;

That the truth about Israel’s attack and subsequent White House cover-up continues to be officially concealed from the American people to the present day and is a national disgrace;

That a danger to our national security exists whenever our elected officials are willing to subordinate American interests to those of any foreign nation, and specifically are unwilling to challenge Israel’s interests when they conflict with American interests; this policy, evidenced by the failure to defend the USS Liberty and the subsequent official cover-up of the Israeli attack, endangers the safety of Americans and the security of the United States.

WHEREUPON, we, the undersigned, in order to fulfill our duty to the brave crew of the USS Liberty and to all Americans who are asked to serve in our Armed Forces, hereby call upon the Department of the Navy, the Congress of the United States and the American people to immediately take the following actions:

FIRST: That a new Court of Inquiry be convened by the Department of the Navy, operating with Congressional oversight, to take public testimony from surviving crewmembers; and to thoroughly investigate the circumstances of the attack on the USS Liberty, with full cooperation from the National Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency and the military intelligence services, and to determine Israel’s possible motive in launching said attack on a U.S. naval vessel;

SECOND: That every appropriate committee of the Congress of the United States investigate the actions of the White House and Defense Department that prevented the rescue of the USS Liberty, thereafter threatened her surviving officers and men if they exposed the truth, and covered up the true circumstances of the attack from the American people; and

THIRD: That the eighth day of June of every year be proclaimed to be hereafter known as
USS LIBERTY REMEMBRANCE DAY, in order to commemorate the Liberty’s heroic crew; and to educate the American people of the danger to our national security inherent in any passionate attachment of our elected officials for any foreign nation.

We, the undersigned, hereby affix our hands and seals, this 22nd day of October, 2003.

Thomas H. Moorer
Former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff,
Chairman, Liberty Alliance
General of Marines Raymond G. Davis, USMC, MOH*
Vice Chairman, Liberty Alliance
Merlin Staring
Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, USN, Ret.,
Former Judge Advocate General of the Navy,
Director, Liberty Alliance
James Akins
Ambassador James Akins, Ret.,
Former United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia,
Director, Liberty Alliance

So piwaCILE - please show us you evidence that there was EVER a public inquiry and the results of that.

Originally Posted by ENT

The US gov's own enquiries into the incident declared the Liberty event a horrible mistake.

Yawwwn- why do we have to go over the same thing again and again?

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

And the Israeli's were STILL found innocent of a deliberate attack on a US ship

We know why too-

Originally Posted by sabang

I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity” despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

...Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to “put the lid” on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again.

Declaration of
Ward Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)

The attack was deliberate, the 'Enquiry' a cover-up, specified from and by the very top level. The reason(s) we may never fully know, but anecdotally it does seem more than just about protecting Israel's arse.

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"Yeah but yeah but it says in my post #1513414 that that is wrong and israel should be believed and are the victim.