Quote Originally Posted by can123
I will be voting to leave the EEU because I do not like being ruled by French, Germans, etc. Those who like to be ruled by the French and the Germans should bugger off to France or Germany.
Quote Originally Posted by longway
its no secret that the ultimate goal of the eu is a federal style superstate
Trade and politics have always been intertwined and political integration has always been a part of the EU. The UK has a representative number of MEPs and I don't see what the big fuss is about with loss of Sovereignty...We still managed to bugger ourselves quite happily by entering the Iraq war.

The irony is that the UK are far more likely to be ruled by the French and Germans if they leave the EU that they are within it.

I take it you would both have the UK leave without an EU FTA and go back to WTO import duty rules whilst negotiating separate FTAs. Any other solution would likely require conforming to EU regulations, EU freedom of movement and a subscription fee but no 10% voting power.

Immigration seems to be the main issue for Brexit, but the UK requires cheap labour to stay competitive and will get them from somewhere, The high percentage of skilled labour coming from the EU will be removed; i.e., the ones paying into the UK tax system and NIS to pay for your pensions.