Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You'r not still peddling that bullshit are you?

The Russians shot it down.

Get over it.

I don't think there is a low to which SoSo won't go.
Truth be damned.

(Get ready for a slew of nonsense rhetorical questions defending his Lord.

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You'r not still peddling that bullshit are you?

The Russians shot it down.

Get over it.

I don't think there is a low to which SoSo won't go.
Truth be damned.

(Get ready for a slew of nonsense rhetorical questions defending his Lord.

I don't think it's religiously motivated, I think it's just a big gay crush.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think it's just a big gay crush.

Harry... you're projecting again

Gives you a semi as well, does he?

These Putin lovers are all fucking perverts.

Very shrewd move by Putin.. not a full withdrawal of course and could redeploy at short notice, but it's a proper fuck you to the Coalition forces and a media coup in the popularity stakes.

"I consider the mission set for the defence ministry and the armed forces on the whole has been accomplished," Mr Putin said in a meeting at the Kremlin.

"I am therefore ordering the defence ministry to begin the withdrawal of the main part of our military force from the Syrian Arab Republic from tomorrow."

Syria conflict: Russia's Putin orders 'main part' of forces out - BBC News

Analysis by Jonathan Marcus, BBC diplomatic correspondent

Mr Putin is effectively saying "job done" in Syria. He is clear, though, that a Russian air base and a naval base will remain, so this is not a total military pull-out.

Coinciding with the Syria peace talks, it is yet another sign of Mr Putin's mastery of diplomatic showmanship.

Russia has about 30 combat aircraft in Syria and a small ground component protecting them, along with an unspecified number of Russian advisers and special forces on the ground, operating with the Syrian military.

Russia's intervention has achieved its main goals - consolidating President Assad's position, enabling his forces to re-take key pieces of strategic territory and ensuring that Mr Assad remains a factor in any future Syrian settlement.

Originally Posted by Neo

What did Russia achieve in Syria?

Originally Posted by Neo

What did Russia achieve in Syria?


Image copyright AP

• Russian aircraft flew more than 9,000 sorties
• Destroyed 209 oil production and transfer facilities
• Helped Syrian government troops to retake 400 settlements
• Helped Damascus to regain control over more than 10,000 sq km (3,860 sq miles) of territory

Source: Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, quoted by Russian media

Alternatively, he knows that, like Afghanistan, he's fighting a war he cannot win and is making a tactical withdrawal while he can still do it with some measure of dignity.

If he's played his part in starting peace talks, fair play.

But if he keeps supporting Assad at all costs, it will all have been a waste of time.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But if he keeps supporting Assad at all costs, it will all have been a waste of time.

The LORD has said many times, it is not the person, but the office the person holds, he has also said he wishes the sovereign country of Syria to remain intact. Of the two I suggest it's the second that is more of a problem. But let us see what the Syrians want, not the crusader coalition, their vassals and paid assassins.

Assad himself has said he holds his office at the request of the Syrian people. Presumably he will let go the position when informed of the Syrian's decision.

Or "probably" Tusk has offered him dual citizenship and the Ameristani VP position + a few kilos of gold.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Assad himself has said he holds his office at the request of the Syrian people. Presumably he will let go the position when informed of the Syrian's decision.

Are you still clinging to the absurd notion that Assad was fairly elected by the majority of Syrians?

And I suppose Kim Jong Un also gets as many free and fair votes as he says.

Why are you conspiracy knobs always so spectacularly stupid?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

that Assad was fairly elected by the majority of Syrians?

I assume all governments are fairly elected Harry, should there be some I should worry about? How does one judge which ones are the truth and which ones have been falsified to serve the evil .............

Or all of them?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Neo

What did Russia achieve in Syria?

• Russian aircraft flew more than 9,000 sorties
• Destroyed 209 oil production and transfer facilities
• Helped Syrian government troops to retake 400 settlements
• Helped Damascus to regain control over more than 10,000 sq km (3,860 sq miles) of territory

Source: Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, quoted by Russian media

If he's played his part in starting peace talks, fair play.

It's a bitter pill for you I know Harry... but actually I put the post up to highlight the damage inflicted on the illicit oil trade which has been fueling this conflict. The revenue has dried up, the party over, there's no point IS holding ground if there's nothing to get out of it. Of course we know about US/UK/NATO complicity, and this highlights their shortcomings... why didn't the billions of tax payers £/$'s achieve the same result, unless the Coalition are a) really very inept, or b) they lied to their populace about the real objectives in Syria... politically it's a very savvy move by Putin.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

that Assad was fairly elected by the majority of Syrians?

I assume all governments are fairly elected Harry, should there be some I should worry about? How does one judge which ones are the truth and which ones have been falsified to serve the evil .............

Or all of them?

It's not difficult.

Well, maybe it is for you.

Allegedly the Russian economy is just fine with the LORDS management. Long live the crusader coalitions sanctions.





"Perfectly bottom-ticking the Russia stock market in March 2014, The White House's Jay Carney suggested investors "not invest in Russian equities right now." Since then MICEX has soared 55% to fresh 8-year highs (closing in on record highs) and is the best-forming asset since the March 2009 lows.
In March 2014...

Carney warns of impact on Russian stock market. "If I were you, I wouldn't invest in Russian equities right now."
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) March 18, 2014

Which was followed by a 55% surge to fresh 8 year highs..."


Russian Stocks Hit 8 Year High - Up 55% Since White House Said "Sell" | Zero Hedge

The LORD has committed another crime.

This time he is threatening to hang somebody if his bridge to Crimea is not finished in time. Looks like he expects all Russians to take responsibility for their tasks.

From the celebrations marking the anniversary of Crimea's return to Russia.




"[The bridge] will be yet another symbol of our unity," Putin said in a televised address, after congratulating the country on the annexation. "We will confidently move forward together, and only forward," he promised. Yes, "forward and only forward." That is of course unless someone forgets to build the road that will link the bridge to Crimea’s capital, Simferopol. "Officials keep passing responsibility for the work to colleagues in different ministries," Bloomberg writes. And Putin isn't happy about it. In fact, if winter of 2018 rolls around and the road isn't built, he's going to "hang" someone - he just needs to know who it's going to be.
"There should be a specific person who can be hanged if it’s not done," he said on Friday. "A specific entity, a specific person responsible for the whole project is needed, so I wouldn’t have to call all government phones or regions."


Putin Looks For "Someone To Hang" In Case Road To Crimea Bridge Isn't Finished On Time | Zero Hedge

Allegedly the Syrian advertising campaign is paying off. Not only politically but financially. the immediate cost has been taken from the Russian forces "education and Training" budget so no new spend.

However due to the political success and the overwhelming military success many countries are lining up to but "MADE IN RUSSIA" arms. It seems the political back-down/ineffectiveness of crusader coalition military tactics/equipment has been highlighted by the P4+1 coalition. Orders for planes, helicopters, training and missiles are now being completed.

"The $500 million Russia spent on the military operation in Syria may soon pay off for the Kremlin, reports business daily Kommersant, as Moscow expects $6-7 billion worth of new arms contracts. "

https://www.rt.com/business/337404-r...yria-campaign/

Did anybody notice the sanctions? If so they did a Nelson on them.

Some British MSM seem to have the hots for Russians as well. For a while now the comments pages in the "quality" news sources have reflected the pro Russian feeling. Now it's the red tops changing horses.

It seems the tide has changed.

British Papers, Readers Pay Tribute to Russian Hero Who Sacrificed Himself Against ISIS

Even a request from an USA victims family can't pursuade the Ameristani government to release the alleged evidence they have which they are convinced proves Russia's involvement in the UKraine jet crash.

How pitiful to see Ameristani politicians squirm.

"American-Dutch citizen Quinn Schansman, asked Kerry to turn over that data to aid the investigation seeking to identify who was responsible for shooting down the plane on July 17, 2014. In a letter dated March 7, 2016, but just delivered to Thomas Schansman on Thursday, Kerry expressed his condolences and repeated his claim to know where the missile launch originated, but did not provide new details.

Kerry wrote, “The assessment I provided to the media three days following the shoot down remains unchanged, and is corroborated by the findings of the Dutch Safety Board [DSB]. Flight 17 was shot down by a BUK surface-to-air missile fired from separatist-controlled territory in eastern Ukraine.”

http://russia-insider.com/en/kerry-b...7-data/ri13610

But Kerry’s assertion is not entirely correct. Despite Kerry’s claim on July 20, 2014 – three days after the shoot-down – to know the location of the missile launch, the Dutch Safety Board reported last October that it could only place the likely launch site within a 320-square-kilometer area that included territory under both government and rebel control. (The safety board did not seek to identify which side fired the fateful missile).

Why the U.S. government has dragged its heels about supplying the evidence that Kerry claimed to possess just days after the tragedy has become a secondary mystery to the allegations and counter-allegations about whodunit. That Kerry would not even elaborate on that information in response to the father of the lone American victim is even more striking."


Kerry's claim that his information corroborated is a lie. He refuses to back up his allegation with any proof.




"Something is rotten in the state of DC"

Originally Posted by OhOh

Even a request from an USA victims family can't pursuade the Ameristani government to release the alleged evidence they have which they are convinced proves Russia's involvement in the UKraine jet crash.

How pitiful to see Ameristani politicians squirm.

"American-Dutch citizen Quinn Schansman, asked Kerry to turn over that data to aid the investigation seeking to identify who was responsible for shooting down the plane on July 17, 2014. In a letter dated March 7, 2016, but just delivered to Thomas Schansman on Thursday, Kerry expressed his condolences and repeated his claim to know where the missile launch originated, but did not provide new details.

Kerry wrote, “The assessment I provided to the media three days following the shoot down remains unchanged, and is corroborated by the findings of the Dutch Safety Board [DSB]. Flight 17 was shot down by a BUK surface-to-air missile fired from separatist-controlled territory in eastern Ukraine.”

Kerry Rebuffs Request to Supply Key MH17 Data to Family of American Victim

But Kerry’s assertion is not entirely correct. Despite Kerry’s claim on July 20, 2014 – three days after the shoot-down – to know the location of the missile launch, the Dutch Safety Board reported last October that it could only place the likely launch site within a 320-square-kilometer area that included territory under both government and rebel control. (The safety board did not seek to identify which side fired the fateful missile).

Why the U.S. government has dragged its heels about supplying the evidence that Kerry claimed to possess just days after the tragedy has become a secondary mystery to the allegations and counter-allegations about whodunit. That Kerry would not even elaborate on that information in response to the father of the lone American victim is even more striking."


Kerry's claim that his information corroborated is a lie. He refuses to back up his allegation with any proof.




"Something is rotten in the state of DC"

Are you a bit thick?

You don't tell your enemies how good your radar and satellite is.

You think that the US's enemies don't know how accurate those satellites are..?



Jeez Harry... the US gov themselves are quite open about the technology they possess.. you'd have to have your head right in the sand to have missed it.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Are you a bit thick? You don't tell your enemies how good your radar and satellite is.

Assuming the Russians are too thick to discover a technical spec. on one of Cliteries servers eh, harry

It's not the technology it's the lying politicians which is my point here, harry.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Are you a bit thick? You don't tell your enemies how good your radar and satellite is.

Assuming the Russians are too thick to discover a technical spec. on one of Cliteries servers eh, harry

It's not the technology it's the lying politicians which is my point here, harry.

It is about the technology.

What do you think all those private shuttle and Titan launches have been for over the years?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

What do you think all those private shuttle and Titan launches have been for over the years?

The number of a countries launches is of concern only if it one of the brown or yellow citizens countries. get with the FEAR programme harry. Exceptional countries launching satellites or partly returnable rockets are outside the normal alarmist public media.

As such, harry, I am not aware of the numbers, or payloads, of any of the "exceptional" or otherwise countries launches. Equally I am not privy to the technological lead, or otherwise, of individual countries. Probably, all Ameristani launches are to assist the Ameristani Agriculture Government Department and only measure temp and crop development status.


Pray tell us all which country is No.1 for all the technologies required for all such activities. Pray tell who supplies who with rocket motors or space cameras etc. for example.