How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

**bsnub** · 08-09-2016, 12:09 PM

Oh wonderful I see the putin knob worshiping thread has been bumped. Let the knob slobbing begin.

**Arrowman** · 08-09-2016, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

personality worshiping of Putin

But he was right about Crimea, right about Syria, and enjoys the sort of popularity in his own country western leaders can only dream of. And he's kickin' shit out of the vile Islamists.

Owzat for a bit of man love?

yes!.............

**Mr Earl** · 08-09-2016, 12:19 PM

Putin and Trump would get along swimmingly.
Whirled peas for all!

**AntRobertson** · 08-09-2016, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Yeah Oh Oh ,its rather strange when Ant talks about lack of freedom of the press ,individual rights , nepotism and imprisoning Political opponent's when he's chose to live and work here in Los for Christ knows how long , and In Thailands case you could arguably throw in 1,000s of extra judicial murders too

Are you sugggesting that I'm somehow responsible for those issues, peewee?

Or are you just spinning off on another one of your irrelevancies / straw-men.

Originally Posted by sabang

But he was right about Crimea, right about Syria, and enjoys the sort of popularity in his own country western leaders can only dream of. And he's kickin' shit out of the vile Islamists.

Owzat for a bit of man love?

It's the moobs. They love the moobs.

**Dragonfly** · 08-09-2016, 01:46 PM

Putin is the man,

only fake Democrats faggots like snob and hoombeer don't see it, and prefer to see an inferior woman become the next POTUS. Fag Alert !!!

**bsnub** · 08-09-2016, 02:36 PM

^ Good lord you are a moron buttplug. Do you dream of putin ramming his tiny cock in your ass?

**AntRobertson** · 08-09-2016, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Putin is the man

It is the moobs innit.

**misskit** · 09-09-2016, 06:21 AM

Putin's Popularity: The Envy of Other Politicians

MOSCOW —
Donald Trump's statement that Russian President Vladimir Putin enjoys an 82 percent approval rating among his people wasn't hyperbole. Russia's two main polling agencies consistently give the man in the Kremlin ratings that would be the envy of Trump or his rival in the U.S. presidential election, Hillary Clinton.

The comments came during a televised forum in which NBC host Matt Lauer asked Trump about his previous complimentary remarks on Putin. Trump said Putin's high approval ratings show he is a stronger leader than President Barack Obama.

A look at Putin's long record of high ratings:

The numbers

Trump didn't cite the source for the 82 percent claim, but appeared to be referring to polling by the Levada Center, Russia's only independent public opinion pollster. Levada says the poll was conducted August 26-29, involved personal interviews with 1,600 people in 48 Russian regions, and had a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points.

In July, on a Levada poll with a subtly different question about how the respondents regarded Putin, the favorable reaction was 68 percent, the total of three categories ranging from “delight” to “can't say anything bad about him.” That survey also had 1,600 respondents.

Putin's ratings have been consistently strong during his three terms as president. An Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll released in December 2014 found his approval rating among Russians at 81 percent. That poll was based on 2,008 in-person interviews and had a margin of error of 2.4 percentage points.

The state-controlled pollster VTsIOM has found that in an open-ended question, between 52 and 55 percent of Russians name Putin as a person they can trust. But perhaps just as importantly, only 4 to 5 percent name him as someone they distrust. Surveys from both VTsIOM and Levada show high levels of trust in Putin, in sharp contrast to the wide-ranging antipathy Americans express for both Trump and Clinton.

How he does it

Russia's economy is staggering - the ruble is worth half of what it was three years ago - corruption is endemic and the country's south endures a persistent insurgency. For some leaders such troubles could be fatal, but Putin has glided over them with a combination of steely control and personal aplomb.

Under Putin, all major television channels came under state control and their reports - the main source of news for much of the country - either eschew criticism of the president or outright laud him. Although Putin now rarely engages in the televised stunts of his early years as president, such as bare-chested horse-riding or flying a motorized glider, he is never shown in the untoward moments that can befall anyone. Even the potential scandal of divorcing his wife was handled adroitly; Putin made the announcement during a TV interview in an anteroom between acts at a ballet.

He also plays the national-pride card often. After the West announced sanctions against Russia over its involvement with armed separatists in Ukraine, Putin spun the restrictions as an opportunity for Russia to develop its domestic production. He rarely misses an opportunity to appeal to Russians' ingrained sense of being misunderstood and under chronic threat from the outside.

How it plays abroad

While Trump's praise of Putin may disturb many Americans, it could hearten others tired of years of tensions with Russia.

Putin has leveraged his popularity into good relations with Hungary's autocratic and nationalist president Viktor Orban, and Russia also is building its brand by cultivating far-right parties elsewhere in Europe.

In addition, Putin's popularity is a staple of Russia's growing media presence abroad - through the well-watched RT satellite TV channel and the multilingual Sputnik news website.

While Putin has called Trump “bright” and welcomed the prospect of better relations with Washington, the Kremlin seems determined not to overplay its hand on the issue. Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, declined to comment directly on Trump's accolade Thursday.

Putin's Popularity: The Envy of Other Politicians

**OhOh** · 09-09-2016, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

John Key may be a bit of a bellend but I'm pretty sure that he's not a autocratic despot who harasses, intimidates, and imprisons political activists and his opponents or deprives people of their rights. In fact I'm certain of it.

One can always take off the rose coloured glasses and realise one is being manipulated, in all the ways you mention, in many, many countries. To isolate one countries leader is somewhat disturbing to hear from, I assume, an educated westerner.

**OhOh** · 09-09-2016, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Oh wonderful I see the putin knob worshiping thread has been bumped

Whilst ever The LORD puts one over on the "bad" guys, it's worth publicising. As most of the media do nothing but insult a democratically elected leader of a country with more future and natural and human resources than probably any other.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Do you dream of putin ramming his tiny cock in your ass?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It is the moobs innit

Of all the posters here, it, appears to me, that you two are the most stimulated by The LORD's physique.

**AntRobertson** · 09-09-2016, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

One can always take off the rose coloured glasses and realise one is being manipulated, in all the ways you mention, in many, many countries. To isolate one countries leader is somewhat disturbing to hear from, I assume, an educated westerner.

So many words, so little actual meaning.

**MrG** · 09-09-2016, 09:09 PM

^
Yes. An utter waste of time.

**OhOh** · 18-09-2016, 12:20 PM

Seems a few crusader coalition bombs fell on the SAA. Ameristani controllers have admitted to the mistake.

But hey isn't the unexceptional embire's motto, "We came, we slaughtered indiscriminately", or "I'm sure 500,000 deaths were worth it" or this " At this point in time what difference does it make".

Take your pick they were all Ameristani politicians "miss-speaking"

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...rian-army.html

"US military officials acknowledge responsibility for the bombing attack against Syrian Army positions that paved the way for a major Daesh offensive against Assad government forces and that killed 80 Syrian service personnel, but claimed that the attack was an accident with the intended target being Daesh terrorists.
US military officials acknowledge responsibility for the bombing attack against Syrian Army positions that paved the way for a major Daesh offensive against Assad government forces and that killed 80 Syrian service personnel, but claimed that the attack was an accident with the intended target being Daesh terrorists."

https://sputniknews.com/news/2016091...errorists.html

https://sputniknews.com/news/2016091...ike-syria.html

"Russia's Ambassador to the United Nations questioned the United States sudden interest in the fight against Daesh in the eastern city of Deir ez-Zor where Syrian forces loyal to the Assad regime have been the vanguard of the fighting force against Daesh saying that it was suspicious that the Americans would suddenly try to "help" the Syrian Army as they claimed they were targeted Daesh in the region.

"It is highly suspicious that the United States chose to conduct this particular air strike at this time," Russia's ambassador Vitaly Churkin said. He also questioned America's willingness to actively engage the fight against terror rather than focusing on attempting regime change in Syria saying that US forces did "nothing when ISIS advanced on Palmyra."

"The Russian Foreign Ministry issued a scathing response to the Obama administration after a US Central Command statement suggested that the US-led coalition had warned Russia prior to the airstrikes against Syrian Army positions at Deir Ez-Zor that left some 62 Assad regime soldiers dead.

The statement by the Foreign ministry comes in the wake of accusations by Russia that the United States has not been dealing in good faith in the ceasefire agreement with Russian General Vladimir Savchenko saying that "the situation is worsening" with rebel forces escalating their attacks since the agreement went into force on September 12. "Russia is exterting all possible effort to restrain Government troops from returning fire," Senior Army General Viktor Poznikhir said."

https://sputniknews.com/news/2016091...ike-syria.html

The affirmative action Ameristani monkey, who needs an new grinder, accuses Russia of "pulling a stunt" , by calling a UNSC meeting. What reaction would she prefer, a strike on an Ameristani base killing dumb grunts?

"accusing Russia of bombing civilians and blaming the Assad regime for the rise of ISIS calling the meeting "grandstanding," a "stunt," and a "game" after 80 Syrian Army forces were killed in a US-Led airstrike."

Jesus, the mentality of alleged "the worlds only super power" is frighting.

**Dragonfly** · 18-09-2016, 03:23 PM

The Pentagon is made of incompetent fools,

being defeated 3 times already by third world warriors

**Neverna** · 18-09-2016, 04:41 PM

So the US can't even tell who they aim their bombs and "smart" missiles at. Awesome professionalism from the most "advanced" military nation in the world.

Not.

**Mr Earl** · 18-09-2016, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Neverna

So the US can't even tell who they aim their bombs and "smart" missiles at. Awesome professionalism from the most "advanced" military nation in the world.

Not.

The Pentagon should closed for utter incompetance. Obama and Hillary jailed.

Trump, Putin, and Xi go on happy horseback rides...

**birding** · 18-09-2016, 07:13 PM

This is over a year old now but well worth the read :

Putin: “Publish A World Map And Mark All The U.S. Military Bases On It. You Will See The Difference Between Russia And The US”

Putin: ?Publish A World Map And Mark All The U.S. Military Bases On It. You Will See The Difference Between Russia And The US"

**OhOh** · 20-09-2016, 08:52 AM

Putin's party points to progress and prosperity.

It seems the elections have confirmed Russians are still supportive of the current government.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/359875-ru...-parties-duma/

**Jesus Jones** · 20-09-2016, 09:01 AM

I think 6/7 years ago on this forum it was discussed that the US's destabilization and geopolitical-positioning in the Middle East was done so with the target being Russia.

All just coincidence of course!

**sabang** · 20-09-2016, 09:26 AM

I realise the modern conduct of US foreign policy is full of lies, doublespeak, and 'plausible deniability'. But there is little upside in bullshitting Vladimir Putin, Uncle Sam- and he has already made you look weak, ineffectual, and full of hypocricy in Syria- as well as your self declared War on Terror.

How's that 'War on Terror' working out for you then, now that the Terrorists are your allies?

**bsnub** · 20-09-2016, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Neverna

So the US can't even tell who they aim their bombs and "smart" missiles at. Awesome professionalism from the most "advanced" military nation in the world.

Looks like it was the Aussies that pulled the trigger here.

**sabang** · 20-09-2016, 09:54 AM

^ It was a US lead airstrike, in which six (i think) aussie planes participated. Nice way to spread the blame though.

**bsnub** · 20-09-2016, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Nice way to spread the blame though.

Deservedly so.

**OhOh** · 20-09-2016, 10:21 AM

"The buck stops here", what a quaint notion.

"Harry Truman’s famous motto, “the buck stops here” — which was emblazoned on a thirteen-inch sign that sat on his Oval Office desk — is receiving a lot of renewed interest today. Mostly, it’s being used to criticize President Obama’s alleged willingness to allow Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to “take the fall” for the deadly attack on a diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya. Conservatives from Jennifer Rubin, to Sean Hannity, to John McCain, and many others, seem to think that — just as Truman believed — Obama should take responsibility for everything that happens in his government."

Or more recently aimed at the Chinese leadership, by an unexceptional ,third world countries, leader,

"With great power comes great responsibility. " Voltaire

**bsnub** · 20-09-2016, 10:31 AM

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