Thread: Mitt Romney

Character matters,….

If you haven’t seen it you might want to watch this episode of “The Last Word”. : Romney rewrites himself on Vietnam - Video on msnbc.com

O’Donnell describes how Dim Mitt avoided the Vietnam draft.

in tonight's rewrite, what does this guy have in common with this guy? that's right. nothing. but they once had one thing in common. each man tried to use his religion as the reason he should not be drafted in to military service during the vietnam war .

mitt romney had no problem doing that because the mormon church established a special relationship with the selective service administration which aloud the church to designate young men like romney as exempt from the draft while they did temporary service of a couple of years trying to convert people to mormonism. the mormon church was the only religion that was allowed to do that. it was an obvious constitutional violation of the separation of church and state , and it provoked more than one federal lawsuit that dragged through the courts and became moot whenpresident nixon ended the draft in 1973 . in order for a member of any other religion to get a so-called minister of religion deferment, he would have had to commit his life to a ministry, not just a couple of years. muhammad ali sought the exact same deferment asmitt romney , but the selective service refused to honor his claim of being a black muslim minister. drafted then under his birth name of cassius clay , muhammad alistood on principle and refused induction in to the military, a federal crime then punishable by five years in prison and a $10,000 fine. muhammad ali was convicted of that crime and was spared a prison sentence pending the appeal of his case, which he eventually won in the united states supreme court . muhammad ali 's stance against the draft was a principled stance. it was logically and morally aligned with his principledopposition to the vietnam war . muhammad ali said, i ain't got no quarrel with them viet cong . muhammad ali was right, america didn't have a quarrel there. muhammad aliwas smarter than the president of the united states , muhammad ali was smarter aboutvietnam than henry kissinger who had tricked a gullible news media into thinking he was a genius, and muhammad ali was brave enough to face the consequences of his principled stance. he was willing to lose income, to lose his boxing career, to lose his freedom, to go to prison for his beliefs as were many other brave and principled young men of that era. mitt romney on the other hand effortlessly hid from military service infrance protected by the unconstitutional arrangements his church had with the selective service . and of course, the romney history here does not involve a matter of principle. the mitt romney who was hiding out in france while muhammad ali was facing the wrath of the federal court system and a prison sentence is the same mitt romney who as freshman in college while hiding behind the college deferment from the draft participated in a demonstration in favor of the vietnam war . mitt romney was in favor of young american men his age being drafted and sent to their deaths in vietnam as long as he wasn't one of them. needless to say, romney hates being asked about what he did in the war of his era. and this campaign season a compliant press has not been asking him about it. it is, of course, relevant because we live in a time of war once again, a time that sometimes feels like it could turn into an era of permanent war, andmitt romney is very, very much in favor of war.

governor romney , was the war in iraq , a good idea and worst the blood and tresh yu we have spent?

it was the right decision to go into iraq. i supported it at the time, i support it now.

but of course that does not mean that mitt romney supported any of his five sons actually serving in that war that he supported or any other war. romney men don't go to war. mitt romney 's father didn't, mitt romney didn't, and his sons didn't. in august of2007 in a defensive response as to why his sons did not serve in the military in the iraq war , mitt romney said one of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected. he actually said that. romney men support war. they support wars that other people have to fight. mitt romney 's father was in favor of the vietnam war before he was against it, after having claimed famously to have been brainwashed by generals on vietnam . mitt romney has never come close to telling the truth about his relationship to the vietnam war . this is the lie that mitt romney told the last time he was running for president in 2007 . i really don't recall thinking about the political positions when i was knocking at the door in france . there were anti- vietnam war protests infrance while mitt romney was there. the french fought the vietnam war before we did. we took over from the french. the vietnam war was covered by the french news media every single day that mitt romney was in france . and romney went on to say, i was supportive of my country. i longed in many respects to actually be in vietnam and be representing our country there. there was not a single able-bodied man who in any respect longed to be in vietnam who was denied a chance to go to vietnam . not one. and romney says -- he says there that he wanted to go to vietnam to represent our country. meaning what? he wanted to be the ambassador? my friends and family members who went to vietnam were not representing their country. they were just trying to survive. they were trying to stay alive in a war that they all quickly learned we could not win. romney also said in 2007 , quote, in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like i was there as part of the troops that were fighting in vietnam . frustrating not to feel like i was there? well, he could feel like he was there a few years later if he went to see "apocalypse now." every man who lived through the vietnam era who was at least of high school age at some point during the vietnam era , knows that mitt romneyis lying in every word of that statement. every american who went to vietnam knows that every able-bodied man of draft age who didn't join the military made an active choice not to join. but the same mitt romney who said he kind of sort of wishes he'd gone to vietnam also said, quote, when my dad said that he had been wrong aboutvietnam and that it was a mistake and they had been brainwashed and so forth, i certainly trusted him and believed him. so there's mitt romney saying he believed his father when his father turned against the vietnam war . and that at least consistent with something romney said when he was 23 years old and in the fifth year of his deferment from the draft. then the same mitt romney who had demonstrated in favor of the draft, in favor of the war said, if it wasn't a political blunder to move into vietnam , i don't know what is. so there's mitt romney in effect agreeing with muhammad ali , that we didn't really have a fight with the vietcong. in his first interviews about this back in 1994in his first political campaign , mitt romney told "the boston herald ," i was not planning on signing up for the military. it was not my desire to go off and serve in vietnam . now there's none of that, i wish i'd gone to vietnam stuff in that statement. he sounds like me in that statement and most of the people i knew at the time in that statement. r romneynow takes his place among the many, the countless, supporters like rush limbaugh who has been, like me, afraid of participating in combat themselves. by the time my number was about to come up in the draft, president nixon ended the draft. so i never had to follow muhammad ali 's brave footsteps into federal court . i live like most people, like most men in fear of combat. all of my friends and relatives who have gone into combat are braver than me, and i know it. and i freely and publicly acknowledge it. i pay them the public respect of being braver than i am. and knowing that i would never be willing to go in to combat myself, like most americans and like most american men, afraid to go into combat, i have never advocated anyone else going into combat at any time. i have never urged us to war, as mitt romney has done and rush limbaugh has done and countless other combat cowards have done and will continue to do. you don't give up the legal right to advocate combat if you're afraid of combat yourself. you don't give up your first amendment right to advocate combat if you're afraid of combat yourself. but i for one believe you give up your moral right to advocate combat, to advocate war if you're afraid of war yourself. if you sat out the war of your era. like me. and mitt romney .

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham aka Jet (I'm a loser) Gorgon

Mitt is looking more presidential. I applaud.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Eek. The prik took Michigan.

Be brave Boon,……

Post where the poll came from,…. Rasmussen

And not just,…….

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Romney pulls ahead of Obama in Wisconsin.

Doing Fine? - YouTube

Another hard-hitting campaign ad discrediting the Chicago Jesus.

Last week, with millions out of work, homes falling into foreclosure, and the middle class getting squeezed more and more every day, President Obama inexplicably said "the private sector is doing fine." If President Obama can't see that our economy is broken, how can he fix it?

VIDEO TEXT: “23.2 Million Americans Are In Need Of Work”

· 23.2 Million Americans Are Unemployed, Underemployed, Or Have Stopped Looking For Work. (Bureau Of Labor Statistics, www.bls.gov, 6/4/12)
· Under President Obama, Unemployment Has Remained Above 8% For 40 Straight Months. (Bureau Of Labor Statistics, www.bls.gov, 6/4/12)
· Since President Obama Took Office, Median Household Income Has Declined By $4,300. “Yet real median household income in March was down $4,300 since Obama took office in January 2009 and down $2,900 since the June 2009 start of the economic recovery, according to an analysis of census data by Sentier Research, an economic- consulting firm in Annapolis, Maryland.” (Mike Dorning, “Obama Fails To Stem Middle-Class Slide He Blamed On Bush,” Bloomberg, 4/30/12)
· Median Family Net Worth Has Hit A Two-Decade Low. “The Great Recession shrank Americans’ wealth so much that in 2010 median family net worth was no more than it had been in 1992 after adjusting for inflation, the Federal Reserve reported Monday. Median net worth declined from $126,400 in 2007 to $77,300 in 2010, a Fed survey of family finances found. The median marks the point where half had more and half had less.” (Martin Crutsinger, “Fed Report: Middle Class Net Worth Tumbles,” The Associated Press, 6/12/12)
· Millions Of Homeowners Are Underwater On Their Mortgages. “Despite rising home prices, more than 30% of borrowers, or close to 16 million homeowners, were underwater on their mortgage during the first quarter, according to Zillow. The percentage of borrowers who owed more on their home than it was worth increased to 31.4% during the quarter, up slightly from 31.1% three months earlier, according to Zillow.” (Les Christie, “More Than 30% Of Mortgage Borrowers Still Underwater,” CNN Money, 5/24/12)
· PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: “The private sector is doing fine.” (President Barack Obama, Washington, DC, 6/8/12)

Rand Paul endorsed his neo-con brother Mitt Romney yesterday evening on his other neo-con brother Sean Hannity’s propaganda forum. This comes as no surprise as we have known out the gate that this little rat-faced sleaze bag is a traitor.

Now what about Ron Paul? He has never said that it is his intent to be President in 2012 and his recent email would indicate that his goal has been other from the get go. So have we been duped? Will we be betrayed? Only time and Ron Paul can answer this question.

So what do we do now? Well I will tell you. We stay the course, 100%, right up to the GOP Convention. If we are to be betrayed, let that betrayal be absolute. Do not allow it to be said that we the American people of the American race were not there to support our beliefs to the last round.Rand Paul is a Traitor, What of Ron? | _

Five Reasons Why Romney Is The Favorite To Win:

1. An indefensible record. Every election which features an incumbent is, at least in good measure, a referendum on the record of the incumbent. The problem facing Obama is that he can’t offer a convincing case that his policies have succeeded. Recall that at the outset of his presidency, Obama told NBC’s Matt Lauer, “I will be held accountable. I’ve got four years… If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.” Yet last October, Obama had to concede to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that “I don’t think [people are] better off than they were four years ago.”

2. A weakening economy. The Obama campaign rested its hopes on the American economy getting stronger rather than weaker. This would have allowed the president to argue that while things haven’t improved as quickly as Americans had hoped, the trajectory was encouraging, that progress was being made, that the building blocks to prosperity were in place.

3. Intellectual exhaustion. The Obama campaign is out of ideas. On the economy, Obama has used virtually everything in his progressive toolkit. Nothing has worked. And so the president, unable to defend his record in the first term, is left with no compelling vision to offer in a second term. Witness his speech in Ohio yesterday. It was billed as a “major” address on the economy. But it was widely panned even on the left for being empty and uninteresting. The president himself cannot articulate why his agenda in a second term would be more effective than what he’s done in his first term. He’s running on empty.

4. A formidable opponent. The Obama campaign’s attempt to disqualify Mitt Romney on grounds that he’s too extreme to be president has fizzled. Whatever complaints one may have about Romney, being an extremist is not a plausible one. As Bill Clinton admitted, Romney has been a governor, had a “sterling business career,” and “crosses the qualification threshold.” Since securing the GOP nomination, Romney has made few unforced errors. He’s begun to repair the damage he had sustained. He’s shown impressive discipline and focus as a candidate. He’s outraising the president. And Governor Romney’s campaign is, at least as of now, clearly superior to the president’s.

5. The late break. In most presidential elections, undecided voters break in large numbers for the challenger. If someone is undecided about an incumbent they know well, they will usually cast their ballot for the challenger. That’s particularly true when the country is suffering from economic difficulties and the political fundamentals are bad for the person occupying the Oval Office, which is certainly the case today."

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Should be obvious to the most casual observer who the best man is. Romney graduated from both Harvard Law School and from Harvard Business School. He attended both at the same time and had impressive academic achievements at both. At Harvard Business School, he was a Baker Scholar. Obama? A failed community agitator.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Romney is now favored to win PA and FL is looking good for him too.

A poll released Friday shows Obama ahead of Romney in the state. But the Quinnipiac University survey also shows Romney with an eight-point lead over the president when likely voters were asked who would best handle the economy.

Like it or not, Mitt is on a roll all the way to Big White.

I like to speculate on certain polls in certain states, Boon.

But we need to be cognizant of the fact that we are 4 months and a week away from election time.

That is a long time in politics.

However.....(drum roll.....) when the economy is this bad statistically, the Incumbent usually is replaced for something "different."

It's close but if I had to bet, I'd bet on Romney to win.