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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Guess who’s coming to dinner?

    Neocons

    I’m a Fuckin’ Dick Cheney is hosting a dinner for Dim Mitt tonight.

    By hosting a fundraiser for Romney, the former vice president — who in his retirement remains a powerful leader of foreign-policy neoconservatives yet a deeply polarizing figure outside of the Republican base — will make his grandest gesture so far to pass a torch to Romney.: Dick Cheney opens Wyoming home for major Mitt Romney fundraiser

    Let’s look at the connection,…The Dick and Dim Mitt’s foreign policy team.

    If Dim Mitt gets his way and is elected, this is who is foreign advisors might be (some of the George I’m an idiot Bush’s old team),…..


    Adelson, Sheldon
    Casino magnate Sheldon Adelson is prepared to provide “limitless” sums to put a right-wing, “pro-Israel” Republican in the White House—as well as to ensure that his casino earnings in China don’t get taxed.
    The first name at the top of your list. Sheldon Adelson. This guy falls asleep after his oatmeal.

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    Character matters.

    A piece from Krugman in the NY Times today: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/op...reas.html?_r=4

    Now fast-forward to Romney the Younger, who made even more money during his business career at Bain Capital. Unlike his father, however, Mr. Romney didn’t get rich by producing things people wanted to buy; he made his fortune through financial engineering that seems in many cases to have left workers worse off, and in some cases driven companies into bankruptcy.

    And there’s another contrast: George Romney was open and forthcoming about what he did with his wealth, but Mitt Romney has largely kept his finances secret. He did, grudgingly, release one year’s tax return plus an estimate for the next year, showing that he paid a startlingly low tax rate. But as the Vanity Fair report points out, we’re still very much in the dark about his investments, some of which seem very mysterious.

    Put it this way: Has there ever before been a major presidential candidate who had a multimillion-dollar Swiss bank account, plus tens of millions invested in the Cayman Islands, famed as a tax haven?

    And then there’s his Individual Retirement Account. I.R.A.’s are supposed to be a tax-advantaged vehicle for middle-class savers, with annual contributions limited to a few thousand dollars a year. Yet somehow Mr. Romney ended up with an account worth between $20 million and $101 million.

    There are legitimate ways that could have happened, just as there are potentially legitimate reasons for parking large sums of money in overseas tax havens. But we don’t know which if any of those legitimate reasons apply in Mr. Romney’s case — because he has refused to release any details about his finances. This refusal to come clean suggests that he and his advisers believe that voters would be less likely to support him if they knew the truth about his investments.

    And that is precisely why voters have a right to know that truth. Elections are, after all, in part about the perceived character of the candidates — and what a man does with his money is surely a major clue to his character.

    One more thing: To the extent that Mr. Romney has a coherent policy agenda, it involves cutting tax rates on the very rich — which are already, as I said, down by about half since his father’s time. Surely a man advocating such policies has a special obligation to level with voters about the extent to which he would personally benefit from the policies he advocates.

    Yet obviously that’s something Mr. Romney doesn’t want to do. And unless he does reveal the truth about his investments, we can only assume that he’s hiding something seriously damaging.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    And unless he does reveal the truth about his investments, we can only assume that he’s hiding something seriously damaging.

    There you have it. That's all the democrats have to go with. Superstition, suspicions of voodoo and witchcraft conjuring up money, scary dark places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    And unless he does reveal the truth about his investments, we can only assume that he’s hiding something seriously damaging.

    There you have it. That's all the democrats have to go with. Superstition, suspicions of voodoo and witchcraft conjuring up money, scary dark places.

    Romney was listed as CEO, President, sole shareholder and Chairmen of the Board at Bain until 2003. He is claiming he had no involvement after 1999. The issue is significant because the Obama campaign claims that after 1999, Bain Capital, an investment vehicle, was involved in lay-offs, bankruptcies and the outsourcing of American jobs to China, Mexico and elsewhere. That is far more then superstition and suspicions. If he was truly not involved then why will he not release Bain's meeting minutes from that time period?

    Once again the alternate reality camp tries to camouflage the facts.

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    not that the romney campaign is trying to change the subject or anything:


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    ^ even some on the right understand Dim Mitt is trying to change the subject: If history’s any indicator, we’ve got some time before Romney’s veep announcement; Update: Surprise frontrunner emerges, says Drudge « Hot Air

    As I write this, Drudge has the fire-engine red font out for this banner headline:

    ROMNEY NARROWS VP CHOICES; SURPRISE NAME EMERGES AS FRONTRUNNER

    Really? Mr. Cautious, who’s leaning towards Rob Portman and Tim Pawlenty because they’re bland, is suddenly ready to roll the dice on a dark horse? Only two possibilities. One: He’s alarmed that he’s not moving in the polls and now thinks, a la McCain, that he has to make waves with his VP pick to shake things up. Two: This is a load of nonsense, fed to Drudge in order to steer the media away from covering the left’s dumb Bain attacks.

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    Sign of the times my friends...

    This is funny that Mitt seemed to draw a crowd:

    Photo: Empty room minutes ahead of Biden’s NAACP speech.

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    Having run out of feet, Romney campaign aims for Mitt's head

    More on story bsnub noted above:
    Boston Globe will not issue correction to Romney - POLITICO.com
    Boston Globe editor Martin Baron emails Mitt Romney communications director Gail Gitcho:

    Dear Ms. Gitcho:

    We received your request late this afternoon for a correction regarding this morning’s Globe story. Having carefully reviewed that request, we see no basis for publishing a correction. The Globe story was entirely accurate.

    The Globe story was based on government documents filed by Bain Capital itself. Those described Governor Romney as remaining at the helm of Bain Capital as its “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president” until 2002. The story also cited state financial disclosure forms filed by Romney that showed he earned income as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.

    The Globe story accurately described the contents of those documents.

    The Globe story also gave a full account of the Romney campaign’s position that, notwithstanding several years of regulatory filings, Mitt Romney “retired from Bain Capital in 1999 … (and) has had no involvement in the management or investment activities of Bain Capital, or with any of its portfolio companies, since that time.” In your correction request, you reiterate points that are fully detailed in the Globe story.

    Sincerely,

    Martin Baron
    Editor, The Boston Globe
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    Hilarious the left-wingers here keep calling Gov Romney "Dim Mitt" while accusing him of accumulating millions overseas -- gotta be dim to do that I guess. It's too funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Sign of the times my friends...

    This is funny that Mitt seemed to draw a crowd:

    Photo: Empty room minutes ahead of Biden’s NAACP speech.
    But, but, but, it was raining, Booners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Sign of the times my friends...

    This is funny that Mitt seemed to draw a crowd:

    Photo: Empty room minutes ahead of Biden’s NAACP speech.




    they loved him: https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...ml#post2157571

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    Michael Tomasky on Mitt Romney the Race Baiter at the NAACP - The Daily Beast
    With his incendiary speech to the NAACP, Mitt crossed an ugly line. No longer simply spineless and disingenuous, he’s now become a race-mongering pyromaniac.
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    And it's working, I'm sure the racist contingent on TD now love him all the more.

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    romney's got a choice:


    "“Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony."


    "Or," she said, "he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investments,” including layoffs and the outsourcing of jobs.
    Obama team: Romney committed a felony or lied to voters - POLITICO.com

    so which is it mitt....and this time you're not going to be able to take both sides of the issue like you have on nearly every other issue (gun control, abortion, health care, etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    romney's got a choice:


    "“Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony."


    "Or," she said, "he was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people to avoid responsibility for some of the consequences of his investments,” including layoffs and the outsourcing of jobs.
    Obama team: Romney committed a felony or lied to voters - POLITICO.com

    so which is it mitt....and this time you're not going to be able to take both sides of the issue like you have on nearly every other issue (gun control, abortion, health care, etc...)
    Can hear him now:
    "I was, like, just the CEO in name. Doesn't really mean anything, it's not as if it's an actual job. It's just an on-steroids version of sitting on corporate board. Sometimes I signed stuff, but it's not as if I actually read it first, or cared what was in the document. You guys act like I was actually working or something."

    Ah, the Captains of Industry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham View Post
    Hilarious the left-wingers here keep calling Gov Romney "Dim Mitt" while accusing him of accumulating millions overseas -- gotta be dim to do that I guess. It's too funny.
    Exactly. Their campaign slogan should be "No one should be smarter than us!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Sign of the times my friends...

    This is funny that Mitt seemed to draw a crowd:

    Photo: Empty room minutes ahead of Biden’s NAACP speech.




    they loved him: https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...ml#post2157571
    Horsefeathers!

    Biden Addresses Empty Seats at NAACP Convention



    "...will they acknowledge that no one was there to hear Joe Biden’s address? CBS News and National Journal campaign reporter Rodney Hawkins tweeted that “minutes before” Joe Biden’s speech at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston “seats are pretty empty.” He provided the visual above.

    Who you gonna believe, eh? My source or yours?
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    Character Matters!

    Stephanie Cutter (on Bain and Dim Mitt),.......

    She said that there were two ways to interpret the story: either Romney was "misrepresenting his position at Bain" to the Securities and Exchange Commission "which is a felony" or he is "misrepresenting his position at Bain to the American people. If that's the case, if he was lying to the American people, that's a real character and trust issue.": Obama campaign hits Romney hard on questions over Bain Capital tenure


    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee aka FOX Macaw View Post
    Who you gonna believe, eh? My source or yours?

    The picture above shows a packed house at the NAACP conference for the appearance by Vice-President Joe Biden. The speech was well received with the crowd even booing when he announced that he was wrapping up.

    Nevertheless, the Breitbrats found a photo that was tweeted prior to Biden’s arrival and decided to post that with an article that said that “Biden Addresses Empty Seats at NAACP Convention.” Obviously, that was not true. The larger photo of an enthusiastic crowd was taken by an actual reporter from Reuters. Not surprisingly, the mysterious editors at Fox Nation (who Fox refuses to identify) re-posted the Breibrat item as if it were certifiable news.: News Corpse » Not So Breitbart: Biden Does NOT Address Empty Seats, Nor Jeremiah Wright:

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    Romney is in panic city. He's given interviews to all the major networks, unusueal for anybody, especially him. All the usual double-speak that he uses is on display on the one's I've seen...CBS and NBC.

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    FactCheck.org : FactCheck to Obama Camp: Your Complaint is All Wet

    FactCheck to Obama Camp: Your Complaint is All Wet


    Posted on July 2, 2012


    The Obama campaign complains that we got a key fact wrong in our June 29 article, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach.” We strongly disagree. We find the Obama campaign’s evidence to be weak or non-existent, and contrary to statements Romney has made on official disclosure forms under pain of federal prosecution.


    Where’s the Evidence?
    So what does the Obama campaign have in rebuttal? Very little, and none of it convincing in our judgment.

    Much of the Obama campaign’s letter is devoted to quoting portions of documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In summary, the letter states there are “at least 63 filings with that agency after March 1, 1999 that list various Bain entities and describe them as ‘wholly owned by W. Mitt Romney.’” That’s true, but not relevant.

    On that point, the Obama campaign cites snippets of a few news clippings to make a case that Romney was still a part-time manager of Bain after he left to run the Olympics. But a close reading shows these news accounts don’t contradict Romney either.

    First, the Obama campaign simply ignores Romney’s stated intent to “leave running day-to-day operations” to others.






    Sounds like the Obama campaign is quoting their 'facts' out of context. It makes you think of a certain posting style of a newly resurfaced poster here at Teakdoor doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Once again the alternate reality camp tries to camouflage the facts.
    Tell me about it. Factcheck.org has sorted out the Obama Campaign smoke and mirrors and their murmurs of Romney witchcraft conjuring up money.




    For all these reasons, we respectfully reject the Obama campaign’s request that we amend our original story.


    We re-state our conclusion that “some of the claims in the [recent Obama] ads are untrue, and others are thinly supported.” And we suggest that should Obama campaign officials discover any actual evidence that Romney personally participated in any management decisions at Bain after February of 1999, they should produce it to a federal prosecutor.


    – Brooks Jackson and Robert Farley, with Eugene Kiely

    FactCheck.org : FactCheck to Obama Camp: Your Complaint is All Wet

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    The record of Romney's involvement with Bain has discrepencies. The Boston Globe reported at the time he was leaving Bain to run the Olympics that he would continue to be involved in some Bain issues. Just another example of Romney's etch-a-sketch personality. There's no problem calling him out on it.

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    ^He's trying to hide behind his Salt Lake Olympics work, as if that holds up to scrutiny. He lied about that, too. Romney is a pathological liar: EXCLUSIVE: In ’02 Romney Touted D.C. Connections, Federal Funds - ABC News
    In a long-forgotten tape from the 2002 Massachusetts governor’s race obtained by ABC News, Mitt Romney is seen touting his Washington connections and his ability to get millions of taxpayer dollars from the federal government.
    “I am big believer in getting money where the money is,” Romney says on the video, “The money is in Washington.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    The record of Romney's involvement with Bain has discrepencies. The Boston Globe reported at the time he was leaving Bain to run the Olympics that he would continue to be involved in some Bain issues. Just another example of Romney's etch-a-sketch personality. There's no problem calling him out on it.
    There certainly isn’t,………

    Some fact-checkers and journalists have challenged the assertion that Romney continued to play a role in Bain after February 1999. Dan Primack, a senior editor at Fortune, obtained Bain documents from 2000 that don't include Romney on the list of Bain's managers or "key investment professionals" or as part of the day-to-day operations or investment committee. But the question here is not whether Romney was actively managing funds on a daily basis, but whether he did anything at all that was Bain-related.

    Glenn Kessler, who writes the Washington Post's "Fact Checker" column, dismisses the SEC filings bearing Romney's name, insisting, "much of the language saying Romney was 'sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president' was boilerplate that did not reveal whether he was actually managing Bain at the time." Again, there is a difference between managing and participating in the firm's operations.

    Kessler notes that Romney signed that public disclosure form, under the penalty of perjury. Still, he doesn't seem to believe this is a problem for Romney. He does concede, "The SEC documents, especially the ones Romney signed, do raise some questions. One can certainly argue that because Romney did not fully extricate himself from Bain till after his Olympic sojourn ended, he should bear some responsibility for what happened in that period."

    Kessler, though, slams the Obama campaign—three Pinocchios!—for saying that Romney and Bain may have violated the law by filing documents with the SEC that falsely represented Romney's status at Bain. But even Kessler's reading of the available evidence could land Romney in hot water regarding his financial disclosure form. While he contends the available evidence does not support the claim Romney actively managed Bain after February 1999, he does find that the signed SEC documents indicate that Romney, at the least, did not "fully extricate himself from Bain" until 2002.

    That would suggest that Romney's declaration on his disclosure form—no involvement "in any way"—is inaccurate. The Romney camp maintains that a few signatures here or there are no big deal. But Romney declared in a document submitted to the US government that he had nothing to do with Bain operations after February 1999. In light of that, those signatures are not nothing.

    Dim Mitt is a felon: Romney Make a False Statement on His Financial Disclosure

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy
    Much of the Obama campaign’s letter is devoted to quoting portions of documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
    Correct, relevant portions like titles, signatures, declarations. If there is something that is relevant that is not quoted, please provide.
    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy
    In summary, the letter states there are “at least 63 filings with that agency after March 1, 1999 that list various Bain entities and describe them as ‘wholly owned by W. Mitt Romney.’” That’s true, but not relevant.
    If it's true, how is it not relevant? Double-speak.

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