Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Simple Harry, they can cover up a whole war, 1,000s of people involved, yet you think they can't conceal the truth about one day, 9/11.
Someone will talk, people have talked, both about 9/11 and Lao, no one believed.
The truth about Lao took years to come out, the truth can be seen to this day.
9/11 not much evidence left, but to believe the Government is to believe they were not bombing Lao.

Tell me harry, did you support the actions in Lao, unexplored cluster bombs, 30 klicks from me, or did you not know the truth.
US and OZ Government covered up facts, but they have changed now, only tell the truth.

Have a Google on the drug side of Lao bombing, good for the west [rulers] 9/11 was good for the people [ rulers ] got to have order at any cost. Jim:

So what?

Did you even read what I said?

Or have you got cognitive dissonance as well?

Jesus this one thread has more nuts than Cadburys.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

cognitive dissonance

You love this phrase harry.

Get's pumped into you every night?

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

cognitive dissonance

You love this phrase harry.

Get's pumped into you every night?

I notice you've started using it on other threads.

Bit of a lemming aren't you? Twice you've pinched stuff off me today.

Very original.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Simple Harry, they can cover up a whole war, 1,000s of people involved,

Says who again? Utter nonsense, a confirmation link is needed.

I'm American and was IN America instead of somewhere in the south Indian ocean so I know what was ACTUALLY being reported and there most certainly was reports of the campaign in Laos being reported. The media of the time was very independent, far more so than today which is why the Vietnam war was actually painted so harshly which ultimately led to the withdrawal.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

That war didn't take place in full view of hundreds of thousands of people, many of them with cameras, and millions around the globe live on television, did it?

Because if it had, they wouldn't have been able to cover it up, would they?

Talk about a non seqitur.

More over, it still wasn't covered up..

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

More over, it still wasn't covered up..

Of course it wasn't.

Truth be told, few Americans are aware that the secret war ever took place (though nowadays a simple Google search will reveal the details).

The official cover-up was that the US was conducting humanitarian aid missions in the region.

The Secret War in Laos -

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Simple Harry, they can cover up a whole war, 1,000s of people involved,

Says who again? Utter nonsense, a confirmation link is needed.

I'm American and was IN America instead of somewhere in the south Indian ocean so I know what was ACTUALLY being reported and there most certainly was reports of the campaign in Laos being reported. The media of the time was very independent, far more so than today which is why the Vietnam war was actually painted so harshly which ultimately led to the withdrawal.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

That war didn't take place in full view of hundreds of thousands of people, many of them with cameras, and millions around the globe live on television, did it?

Because if it had, they wouldn't have been able to cover it up, would they?

Talk about a non seqitur.

More over, it still wasn't covered up..

The sort of bullsh*t spouted by a US gov. stooge, ...the US embassy man F*. B#.

That war was covered up from the beginning, for if it had been publicised, world opinion would have turned against USA and support for USA in Vietnam would have ended.

That war in Vietnam was for oil, not freedom and democracy, the same oil that China now claims is theirs.

You might have been in the US at the time, with your head up your fundament and in total denial of what was going on, but you've obviously never been to Laos where the evidence of the US atrocities perpetrated on the Lao people in the US war on Laos is still in evidence, and where teams of bomb disposal people, none of them American as far as I've noticed, are continually locating and disposing of the bomblets from cluster bombs and land mines laid by USA in Laos.

If that war was indeed reported in USA at the time, give some references.

Here's something to read;

CIA Air Operations in Laos, 1955-1974

Supporting the "Secret War"

William M. Leary
The largest paramilitary operations ever undertaken by the CIA took place in the small Southeast Asian Kingdom of Laos. For more than 13 years, the Agency directed native forces that fought major North Vietnamese units to a standstill. Although the country eventually fell to the Communists, the CIA remained proud of its accomplishments in Laos. As Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Richard Helms later observed: "This was a major operation for the Agency. . . . It took manpower; it took specially qualified manpower; it was dangerous; it was difficult." The CIA, he contended, did "a superb job." 1
Air America, an airline secretly owned by the CIA, was a vital component in the Agency's operations in Laos. By the summer of 1970, the airline had some two dozen twin-engine transports, another two dozen short-takeoff-and-landing (STOL) aircraft, and some 30 helicopters dedicated to operations in Laos. There were more than 300 pilots, copilots, flight mechanics, and air-freight specialists flying out of Laos and Thailand. During 1970, Air America airdropped or landed 46 million pounds of foodstuffs--mainly rice--in Laos. Helicopter flight time reached more than 4,000 hours a month in the same year. Air America crews transported tens of thousands of troops and refugees, flew emergency medevac missions and rescued downed airmen throughout Laos, inserted and extracted road-watch teams, flew nighttime airdrop missions over the Ho Chi Minh Trail, monitored sensors along infiltration routes, conducted a highly successful photoreconnaissance program, and engaged in numerous clandestine missions using night-vision glasses and state-of-the-art electronic equipment. Without Air America's presence, the CIA's effort in Laos could not have been sustained.

A Distorted View

Air America's public image has fared poorly. The 1990 movie Air America is largely responsible for this. It featured a cynical CIA officer who arranged for the airline to fly opium to the administrative capital of Vientiane for a corrupt Asian general--loosely modeled on Vang Pao, a military leader of the mountain-region-based Hmong ethnic group. The film depicts the CIA man as having the opium processed into heroin in a factory just down the street from the favorite bar of Air America's pilots. The Asian general, in return, supplied men to fight the war, plus a financial kickback to the CIA. Ultimately, we learn that the Communist versus anti-Communist war in Laos was merely a facade for the real war, which was fought for control of the area's opium fields.
Air America pilots in this film are portrayed as skilled at landing damaged airplanes, but basically as a wildly unprofessional menagerie of party animals, including a few borderline psychotics. These ill-disciplined airmen are not the villains of the story; they are merely pawns in a drug game that they either disdain or oppose outright.

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A Bum Rap

The connection among Air America, the CIA, and the drug trade in Laos lingers in the public mind. The film, according to the credits, was based on Christopher Robbins's book about the airline, first published in 1979 under the title Air America. 2 Although Robbins later claimed that the movie distorted his book, 3 it closely followed the book's theme if not its details. Both movie and book contend that the CIA condoned a drug trade conducted by a Laotian client; both agree that Air America provided the essential transportation for the trade; and both portray the pilots sympathetically.
Robbins provides factual details that the movie lacks. Citing Alfred W. McCoy's 1972 study, The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia, he relates how Air America helicopters collected the opium harvests of 1970 and 1971, then flew the crop to Vang Pao's base at Long Tieng in the mountains of northern Laos, where it was turned into heroin at the general's drug laboratory. 4
My nearly two decades of research indicate that Air America was not involved in the drug trade. As Joseph Westermeyer, who spent the years 1965 to 1975 in Laos as a physician, public health worker, and researcher, wrote in Poppies, Pipes, and People: "American-owned airlines never knowingly transported opium in or out of Laos, nor did their American pilots ever profit from its transport. Yet every plane in Laos undoubtedly carried opium at some time, unknown to the pilot and his superiors--just as had virtually every pedicab, every Mekong River sampan, and every missionary jeep between China and the Gulf of Siam." 5
If the CIA was not involved in the drug trade, it did know about it. As former DCI William Colby acknowledged, the Agency did little about it during the 1960s, but later took action against the traders as drugs became a problem among American troops in Vietnam. The CIA's main focus in Laos remained on fighting the war, not on policing the drug trade.

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How It Began

The story of the real Air America begins in 1950, when the CIA decided that it required an air transport capability to conduct covert operations in Asia in support of US policy objectives. In August 1950, the Agency secretly purchased the assets of Civil Air Transport (CAT), an airline that had been started in China after World War II by Gen. Claire L. Chennault and Whiting Willauer. CAT would continue to fly commercial routes throughout Asia, acting in every way as a privately owned commercial airline. At the same time, under the corporate guise of CAT Incorporated, it provided airplanes and crews for secret intelligence operations. 7
In the 1950s, the CIA's air proprietary, as it was known in the lexicon of intelligence, was used for a variety of covert missions. During the Korean war, for example, it made more than 100 hazardous overflights of mainland China, airdropping agents and supplies.




https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...9-00/art7.html



Colby was later found dead in hiscanoe, ostensibly dying of a heart attack and drowning.

B**shit

Oh FFS thank you James, now you've started ENT off on another 5,000 posts on what he can Google on "Vietnam War conspiracies".

You muppet.

^^ Ermm I wasn't old enough then to be a government stooge but thanks for the ignorant presumptions anyways..

For more than 13 years, the Agency directed native forces that fought...

Gee, the USA invented that strategy, even the Romans never thought of that...

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

^^ Ermm I wasn't old enough then to be a government stooge but thanks for the ignorant presumptions anyways..

Have to quote myself to edit:

Unlike you my info is based on personal experience and not just some cut and paste internet source, you;re probably not even old enough to have an actual working observation so hence your info is bunk..

The reason it appeared to be covered up is people like you who were to busy getting high to take notice of what the reality in the media was. It's pretty evident that many of your ilk of the time have now lost accurate recollection of the time having killed off so many brain cells, they say how over use of pot causes paranoia sound familiar?

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

^^ Ermm I wasn't old enough then to be a government stooge but thanks for the ignorant presumptions anyways..

Have to quote myself to edit:

Unlike you my info is based on personal experience and not just some cut and paste internet source, you;re probably not even old enough to have an actual working observation so hence your info is bunk..

The reason it appeared to be covered up is people like you who were to busy getting high to take notice of what the reality in the media was. It's pretty evident that many of your ilk of the time have now lost accurate recollection of the time having killed off so many brain cells, they say how over use of pot causes paranoia sound familiar?

Well they do say if you remember the 60's you weren't there... or something.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

I think you mean, like yourself, "9/11 Attention Seeker".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Your cognitive dissonance is playing up again

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Simple Harry, they can cover up a whole war, 1,000s of people involved,

Says who again? Utter nonsense, a confirmation link is needed.

I'm American and was IN America instead of somewhere in the south Indian ocean so I know what was ACTUALLY being reported and there most certainly was reports of the campaign in Laos being reported. The media of the time was very independent, far more so than today which is why the Vietnam war was actually painted so harshly which ultimately led to the withdrawal.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

That war didn't take place in full view of hundreds of thousands of people, many of them with cameras, and millions around the globe live on television, did it?

Because if it had, they wouldn't have been able to cover it up, would they?

Talk about a non seqitur.

More over, it still wasn't covered up..

FB did you tell the US congress what you knew. Wasn't called the secret war for nothing.



Kissinger diverted billions of dollars in Food for Peace, meant to feed the starving, to the Thieu and Lon Nol armies. He violated the U.S. Constitution by secretly bombing Cambodia and Laos without congressional authorization. And his representatives regularly perjured themselves before Congress, as when the U.S. ambassador to Laos testified to the Kennedy Subcommittee on Refugees on April 22, 1971, that the U.S. bombed only military targets in Laos.


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Meanwhile, back at the early morning strike where millions saw planes flying into buildings except ENT, Shaggy and Jim....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Meanwhile, back at the early morning strike where millions saw planes flying into buildings except ENT, Shaggy and Jim....

Harry, never said I did not watch planes hit the twin towers, said the truth was never told.
Big difference, questions have arisen, few answers given, an open Government would investigate.

Many reputable agencies disagree with the Gov's findings, but the Government has been able to divide everyone into 2 camps. Believers and conspiracy nuts, simple questions asked, no need to answer, their nut jobs.
Jim

the problem with fools like HarryXBOX is they think that they are confident enough about everything that they can't possibly be played by someone who knows more

What a bunch of gullible fools, from Samsung propaganda to Bush propaganda, the poor things have no clue how their overconfidence is exactly how they can be played easily for everything.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Meanwhile, back at the early morning strike where millions saw planes flying into buildings except ENT, Shaggy and Jim....

You (and the millions you're on about) didn't see any planes flying into those buildings on 9/11/2001.

You saw videos, all on TV, all photo-shopped videos set up by the media.





And this one;



Then this one, where the wings fade off then on,... in line with the towers' left side, then the aircraft cleanly enters the tower (no plane debris pealing off on impact) before explosions from within the tower.



No plane exploded on impact there.

Got news for you, ENT : After the first plane hit, there were a LOT of people looking up and who saw the second one hit.

And things "peel off". They don't "peal" unless they're bells

Look ENT,

Its Ok to argue the toss whether Bush set this shit up but to say that No plane hit the Second Tower proves how much of a fuken Idiot you are.

Jesus man, get yourself off to a Head Doctor EH.

^

Yes OK whatever,

But silly fuken ENT keeps banging on that nothing hit the second tower except a Hologram ??????

He recons CNN set all this shit up to make it look like a plane hit the second Tower and all the shit raining down really wasn't raining down ?

I mean how can you put a case forward when you have a head case like ENT sprouting insane shit like this ???

That's the problem with the conspiracy nutters innit, They all think different shit up where as the official line remains rock solid.

Originally Posted by terry57

Jesus man, get yourself off to a Head Doctor EH

Pass the fvcking bong then man