Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

the whole story doesn't add up,

we will never know exactly who did it and why exactly,

In time, we'll piece it ALL together.

Kennedy assassination is still not solved after all those years, they sealed all the dodgy records for a reason, it would expose all the security and allegiance holes in the US government

American don't like the truth, that's why they lie all the time, it's a second nature

They love their authority figures, don't they, as you pinted outcabout an earlier poster.

Autonomy and personal responsibility and incentive doesn't figure largely in their lives.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Kennedy assassination is still not solved after all those years

James Files did it. Didn't you know? JFK MURDER SOLVED - Is James Files telling the truth

Originally Posted by Latindancer

This does not necessarily indicate a conspiracy, it indicates a bunch of useless pricks.

It indicates a deliberate avoidance of defence/strike action, indicating that the approaching (alleged) aircraft was not regarded as a threat.

The allegedly approaching aircraft was not only allowed to fly unchallenged towards the most heavily defended war office in the world, but supposedly, upon impact, vapourised, ....(but it didn't do a good job of that), this miraculous (alleged) airliner,... it also miraculously shed bits of clean skin all over the Pentagon lawn without leaving any burn or scuff marks on it!

Also, not to do a second rate performance when only the best will do,...the crazy plane supposedly punched out, with its plastic and aluminium nose-cone, not one, not two, not three nor four, but six holes through re-enforced concrete walls, dodged and swerved around support pillars,.... then disappeared,...at least tried to, ....one engine did,..anyway.

Originally Posted by ENT

.the crazy plane supposedly punched out, with its plastic and aluminium nose-cone, not one, not two, not three nor four, but six holes through re-enforced concrete walls, dodged and swerved around support pillars,.... then disappeared,...at least tried to, ....one engine did,..anyway.

Amazing what you can learn to do on a flight simulator.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

So when all the evidence points to the fact they've been used by powerful forces of their own

Americans are like Islamic fanatics, if you dare say that Allah/Democracy does not exist, they bomb the fuck out of you

Originally Posted by ENT

In time, we'll piece it ALL together.

No we wont ENT, everyone realizes that the conspirocy nuts need something to hang onto regards always looking at the US government as the bad guys.

9/11 gives you guys a reason for living, if it was not 9/11 people like you would latch onto some other phenomenon as a reason to attack the Government.

Give it up ENT.

Actually that Malaysian plane 370 has disappeared from the face of the earth, maybe its parked up with those other planes from 9/11 that have disappeared and did not even take off according to you.

Raving nutter ENT.

Actually the US military have a secret base out in the middle of the ocean somewhere, maybe those planes are parked up there EH.

Tin foil hat on ENT.

Absurd pretentious navel gazing. Carry on.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by ENT

In time, we'll piece it ALL together.

No we wont ENT,

In other words, there's something to piece together, whether clones like you like it or not.

back to the topic,

if it was not an inside job, how is it that the day of attack coincidated with a military "exercise" ?

isn't that what Thailand military does when they have a coup ? have a planned "exercise" ?

what happened on 911 is far worse than a few building falling apart, it was the day there was a Pentagon coup in the US government. GW Bush, as a good boy, was a spokesperson for those people, a ragged doll for the military decision makers in the Pentagon.

Originally Posted by ENT

The floors involved were occupied by Gelitin art group, who made dummies and catapulted or tossed a few out of the windows they'd opened up by removing all the screws around the frames of these double glazed armour glass windows.

There are videos purporting to be people waving for help from the last tower to fall.

They were all mechanical dummies made by Gelitin art group, repetitively twitching in HALF WINDOWS!!.... (how, when they were all un-openable?)

WHITE SMOKE pouring out all around them.

One "victim". waving from the left corner of the building, must be a giant, that arm is as big as the person in the next window along!!

The rest of the scenario in the video was doctored by the media to make all you little normaloids believe that people were really trapped and doing all that junk you see in the vid,....when in reality it was all ......

Smoke and mirrors.
All illusion, mixed with a cynical pinch of the macabre..

FFS ! If you were in an art group with a whole lot of props and trapped on that floor of the WTC, what would YOU do ?

Go home, take your meds.

And stop interfering with those squirrels !

^ Mechanical dummy indeed

Duh ! So OTHER people got into the Geltin office !

Such as?

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Mechanical dummy indeed

Definitely.

Not much difference between them and a lot of Americans, going by their automatic goose-stepping into official story lines.

One of the best videos of that day was of a "jumper" leaping metres out into space before falling,...must have been an Olympic athlete.



Here's some more improbable "people" at the FIXED, UN-OPENABLE, 50cm wide by 2 metre tall windows.

At about 4 mins 14 secs into the vid onwards there's some real cool SFX.

ENT, I've got something you gonna love, Bush and the Mossad did 9/11. While I in general agree that the Jews had their fingers in it, the article lost me when it claimed the Mossad also bombed Oklahoma and Bali, and nucular weapons brought down the WTC. BTW, the missile that struck the Pentagon was a Russian Granit cruise missile with one turbojet engine, supplied by Victor Bout.

PressTV - ?Mossad, Bush planned, executed 9/11?

Originally Posted by Rainfall

ENT, I've got something you gonna love, Bush and the Mossad did 9/11. While I in general agree that the Jews had their fingers in it, the article lost me when it claimed the Mossad also bombed Oklahoma and Bali, and nucular weapons brought down the WTC. BTW, the missile that struck the Pentagon was a Russian Granit cruise missile with one turbojet engine, supplied by Victor Bout.

PressTV - ?Mossad, Bush planned, executed 9/11?

Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. His career has included extensive experience in international banking along with such diverse areas as consulting on counter insurgency, defense technologies or acting as diplomatic representative for UN humanitarian and economic development efforts. Gordon Duff has traveled to over 80 nations. His articles are published around the world and translated into a number of languages. He is regularly on TV and radio, a popular and sometimes controversial guest.

Recent revelations published on the Press TV website, the New York Post and Veterans Today have changed history.



The story was simple, two American congressional representatives were allowed to read the Congressional 9/11 Investigation Report, this time including the areas President Bush had ordered removed. Both congressmen clearly state that the redacted pages of the report place full responsibility for the planning and execution of 9/11 on one or more foreign intelligence agencies, not “terrorists.”



What is also clear is that President Bush’s personal role in covering this up protected the real perpetrators of 9/11 and pushed the US into, not just two insane wars but draconian moves against America’s government.



The NSA and the Bush 9/11 coup


Nine eleven was a coup against the constitution. Additional reports released this week make clear some of the reasons Bush lied to the American people, to congress, our military and our allies, “Obama’s Director for National Intelligence, James Clapper, has declassified new documents that reveal how the NSA was first given the green light to start collecting bulk communication data in the hunt for Al-Qaeda terrorists after 9/11. President Barack Obama’s administration has for the first time publicly confirmed ‘the existence of collection activities authorized by President George W. Bush,’ such as bulk amounts of Internet and phone metadata, as part of the ‘Terrorist Surveillance Program’ (TSP). The disclosures are part of Washington's campaign to justify the NSA’s surveillance activities, following massive leaks to the media about the classified programs by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Clapper explained on Saturday that President George W. Bush first authorized the spying in October 2001, just weeks after the September 11 attacks.”



We can prove Bush was fully criminally culpable in covering the tracks of those responsible for 9/11.



AIPAC through Bandar and bush “under a bus”

More frighteningly, the articles published this week in Rupert Murdoch’s New York Daily News, written by Hoover Institute fellow and AIPAC member, Paul Sperry, now not only blame Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia as the 9/11 mastermind but tie Bush (43) in as well.



In fact, the entire AIPAC apparatus, the largest lobbying organization in Washington, is currently engaged in a “full court press,” to stop congress from pushing for the release of the real report. Is this because the real report accuses Israel, not Saudi Arabia, and AIPAC wants the Murdoch/Sperry story to stand?



Bin Laden myth “crashes down”


The real report, called “shocking” by the legislators, who have called for President Obama to declassify the entire report, proves that there was no al-Qaeda involvement, no reason to invade Afghanistan or Iraq and no reason to hunt CIA operative, Colonel Tim Osman, also known as “Osama bin Laden.”


In fact, Ambassador Lee Wanta, a former White House Intelligence Chief and Inspector General of the Department of Defense under Reagan, has cited meetings between key government officials and “bin Laden” that he attended, meetings held in both Los Angeles and Washington DC while the US was supposedly hunting him.



From Wanta, who was present during these meetings, “In early 1990, bin Laden, suffering from advanced kidney disease, was flown to an American facility in the Persian Gulf. From there, bin Laden flew to Los Angeles, landing in the Ontario airport, met by Albert Hakim, representing President Bush (41), Ollie North (free on appeal bond), Admiral William Dickie, attorney Glenn Peglau and General Jack Singlaub, one of the founders of the CIA. Hakim was the personal representative of President Bush and in overall charge of the project. ‘Bud’ McFarlane, an Iran-Contra figure pardoned by President Bush in 1992, was also a part of the group.

Bin Laden then left Los Angeles for Washington DC. There he stayed in the Mayflower Hotel. Meetings were held at the Metropolitan Club in Washington. Attorney Glenn Peglau stayed at the Metropolitan. While there, Peglau’s room was broken into and “items” removed. At no point is there record, classified or public, that this ‘working group’ was ever dissolved nor is there any record that Osama bin Laden’s status as a security operative working for the US government ever ended. In 2001, Osama bin Laden’s last public statement denied any involvement in the 9/11 attacks. There are no classified documents tying bin Laden to 9/11 or citing him to be a ‘rogue CIA operative.’”



Which 9/11 is real?


In 2007, the FBI flew a team to Bangkok to interview former Soviet nuclear intelligence specialist Dimitri Khalezov. Khalezov told the FBI that, in the morning of September 12, 2001, he attended a breakfast gathering with Mossad Operations Chief Mike Harari and his son along with other Israeli operatives.



Khalezov reported to the FBI that this gathering was to celebrate the 9/11 attacks, not as Netanyahu had said, as a “fortunate happenstance for Israel” but as a Mossad attack on the United States. At that meeting, Harari also claimed credit for a role in the Oklahoma City bombing. According to Khalezov, Harari was courting him to join their group for an upcoming operation, a bombing attack on Bali, scheduled for 2002.



On October 12, 2002, a huge explosive device devastated nearly a square mile killing 202 people. An Islamic group was blamed, just as with not just 9/11 but, initially, Oklahoma City as well.



Khalezov told FBI agents that Harari claimed nuclear weapons were used to bring down the twin towers on 9/11. Harari also said he got a “cruise type” missile, a Soviet “Granit” for the Pentagon attack, purchased through Victor Bout, the “Lord of War” played by Nicholas Cage in the film of the same name.
Bout, residing in Bangkok with Harari and Khalezov, was extradited to the United States based on a highly classified indictment accusing him of supplying the guided missile used to attack the Pentagon on 9/11.



Bout was arrested in Bangkok in 2008, not long after the FBI visit. He was officially convicted of supplying arms to rebels in Colombia, an activity Bout had long been engaged in on behalf of the CIA, his arms dealing partners for many years.



Leaks


Thus far, the initial report to congress on the Bush falsification does not qualify as a leak. Only Bush stands accused, the 9/11 perpetrators are still safe, their identities still protected by security protocols maintained by President Obama, despite congressional demands.



“Claimed” leaks reported by Sperry in the Washington Post blame Bandar and Saudi Intelligence for 9/11. Sperry cites the CIA as a source but, quite suspiciously, seems to be attempting to deflect the possible fallout against Israel when or if then real report is made public. The Sperry story, coordinated with AIPAC’s moves to quell congress’s demand to declassify the report may well be an indication that Israeli intelligence, as Khalezov indicates, worked with Bush to plan and execute 9/11.


From the Press TV article:



“This week, Congressional representatives Stephen Lynch (D-MA) and Walter Jones (R-NC) have officially requested a congressional resolution demanding President Obama declassify the heavily redacted Congressional Investigative Report on 9/11. The two representatives had just been given authority under penalty of ‘national security secrecy’ to read the censored 28 pages of the 800-page report that had not been seen. What has been made clear is that President Bush was fully aware that neither Afghanistan nor Iraq were involved in 9/11 and that military action against those two nations was done to cover involvement of his administration in 9/11, involvement that included support from foreign intelligence agencies. The representatives, while reviewing the report, came to the portion titled ‘Specific Sources of Foreign Support.’

A 28-page section here had been ‘butchered’ by the White House on the personal orders of President Bush. On the original report given to Congress, an estimated 5-10,000 words were omitted from this section with page after page of dotted lines replacing text.”



This is only the most recent of revelations that AIPAC has managed to suppress through pressuring congress and its powerful assets in the press. What is increasingly clear is that many of AIPAC’s allies in Washington had access to the non-redacted report. An entire administration, leaders in congress and the Pentagon, the CIA, NSA and a dozen other organizations, all knew what was in the congressional report.



They all lied to the 9/11 Commission. They all ordered measures to suppress freedom at home and to butcher hundreds of thousands around the world, kidnap and torture thousand more, all based on lies.



Countries were virtually wiped off the map on a whim. Often we hear it asked, “How could thousands be involved in a conspiracy so heinous?” We now stand ready to answer. The time has come to ask.