Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Yes, but what about all the people who actually SAW the plane hit ?

ENT says that they were all as mad as hens, but they were a large cross-section of the population....

Who actually saw a plane hit the Pentagon?

Not who saw a big explosion, or a plane flying nearby, or heard a plane, but who in fact saw an airliner actually crash into the Pentagon building?

No-one.

I've posted a link here previously about the many people who were witnesses. But for starters, how about reading more carefully



this recent post of Harry's ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

what about the Pentago missile ? we all know it couldn't be a plane,

I mean what kind of idiot could believe that a plane could fly that low and hit the target

Probably the people that actually saw the fucking thing as opposed to dimwit internet babbling idiots like you Buttplug.

Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.

"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."

Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."

Originally Posted by Latindancer

I've posted a link here previously about the many people who were witnesses. But for starters, how about reading more carefully



this recent post of Harry's ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

what about the Pentago missile ? we all know it couldn't be a plane,

I mean what kind of idiot could believe that a plane could fly that low and hit the target

Probably the people that actually saw the fucking thing as opposed to dimwit internet babbling idiots like you Buttplug.

Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.

"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."

Afework Hagos, a] computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."

None of those 'witnesses' saw a plane hit the Pentagon.

Not a very reliable witnesses for your claim, Ld.

On top of that, Timmerman said the plane didn't hit the building!


Here's some excerpts from the interview he gave to CNN at the time.

"Eye-witness Tim Timmerman, a pilot who lives (or 'lived') on the 16th floor of an apartment in Arlington, Virginia overlooking the Pentagon says he saw it clearly. His is a corner apartment with a panoramic view. Timmerman told the CNN reporter:

"I saw a Bowing 757 coming down 395 right over the Columbian Pike. As it went by the Sheraton Hotel the pilot added power. I saw it hit right in front... it didn't appear to have crashed into the building. Most of the energy was dissipated in hitting the ground. But I saw the nose break up. I saw the wings fly forward and everything was engulfed in flames."

CNN: Are you sure it wasn't a 767?

"No! 757, no question. American Airlines. I saw the plane disintegrate and just blow up in a big ball of fire. The building didn't look very damaged initially. But I do see now looking out my window there's quite a chunk in it. I think the blessing here might have been that the airplane did... before it hit the building... hit the ground. A lot of energy might have gone that way."
War on Americans | Pentagon NOT Hit on 9-11

Timmerman directly contradicts Bush's claim that a plane hit the Pentagon and "vapourized" (he's been watching too many hollywood movies) and Rumsfeld's claim that a missile hit the Pentagon.

So who are you gonna believe?

So what are you saying you think happened, ENT ?

Do you, yourself actually have an opinion ?

Tim Timmerman's claim that it hit the ground before it hit the building is pure BS. There were no marks on the ground in front of the Pentagon.

Most of the energy was dissipated in hitting the ground.

"No! 757, no question. American Airlines. I saw the plane disintegrate and just blow up in a big ball of fire. The building didn't look very damaged initially. But I do see now looking out my window there's quite a chunk in it. I think the blessing here might have been that the airplane did... before it hit the building... hit the ground. A lot of energy might have gone that way."

Next witness please.

No hijacked airliner, namely AA77 crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.

There are only two videos in public circulation showing an apparent aircraft approach and apparently hit the Pentagon and explode.

Both show something very much unlike a Boeing 757, something much smaller.





What's that explosion just in front of the Pentagon as the 'aircraft' approaches, sending a cloud of white smoke into the air along with a separate, smaller brown cloud which starts to descend before the plane/missile hits?

Originally Posted by ENT

What's that explosion just in front of the Pentagon as the 'aircraft' approaches

May be it's the 'bomb' that Clinton let slip out. Best to watch from 2 minutes onwards.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

May be it's the 'bomb' that Clinton let slip out. Best to watch from 2 minutes onwards.

in the early hours after the Pentagon hit, I remember CNN mentioning an explosion from a truck or a device, nothing to do with a plane

anyway, why not show the missing "frame" and why have special agents seize all cams footage less than 1 hour after the explosion

if a story smells like shit, then it probably is

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Tim Timmerman's claim that it hit the ground before it hit the building is pure BS. There were no marks on the ground in front of the Pentagon.

Most of the energy was dissipated in hitting the ground.

"No! 757, no question. American Airlines. I saw the plane disintegrate and just blow up in a big ball of fire. The building didn't look very damaged initially. But I do see now looking out my window there's quite a chunk in it. I think the blessing here might have been that the airplane did... before it hit the building... hit the ground. A lot of energy might have gone that way."

Next witness please.

Witness testimony is notoriously unreliable......FOR EXACT DETAILS.

All the same, in the very quick moment in which it went by him,
It LOOKED like a 757.

It LOOKED like it hit the ground.

It LOOKED like trhe building was not damaged much initially (one would expect crap to be flying in all directions if a normal building was hit, but the Pentagon is an armoured building).

However, usually the large details, like it being a fucking big passenger plane, and that it went right into the Pentagon.....remain incontrovertible. Too many witnesses.


Still haven't responded, ENT....

What is your opinion, if any, about what actually happened.

Not that I care after all this time and utterly stupid comments/dud links by you.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

However, usually the large details, like it being a fucking big passenger plane, and that it went right into the Pentagon.....remain incontrovertible. Too many witnesses.

it was the plane that launched the missile, so everyone is right

case closed,

The lack of aircraft wreckage at both the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania adds to my belief the whole fiasco was not as US official sources state.
Other things adding to my belief are all the Twin towers stuff in the first video on page one of this thread, plus other things like how one of the purported terrorist's passport was found just hours after the building collapse, on the street.
No black box ever found, but a paper passport survived the conflagration...and handed in so quickly, even before the dust had fully settled. And why take your passport on a domestic trip, and a domestic trip that is a suicide trip to boot?

And wasn't there some stuff about yet another Bush, Jeb, selling of his shares in WTC or a company based in WTC just weeks before 9/11? I'm a bit vague on this one.

The lack of aircraft wreckage at both the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania ?

There was plenty. It was just shredded. Think about the physics of it.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

The lack of aircraft wreckage at both the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania ? There was plenty. It was just shredded. Think about the physics of it.

What of all other plane crashes in the world. Always debris found, usually the engines.

You need to get up to speed, mate. They DID find engines in the Pentagon. I've posted photos of them previously.

they found jets that are used for missiles actually, not commercial planes

Originally Posted by Latindancer

You need to get up to speed, mate. They DID find engines in the Pentagon. I've posted photos of them previously.

They found nothing traceable to AA77 at the Pentagon.
The engine shown was too small for a Boeing 757

Those nice shiny clean pieces of aircraft scattered on the clean lawn weren't from a recent oil-fired crash explosion.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Tim Timmerman's claim that it hit the ground before it hit the building is pure BS. There were no marks on the ground in front of the Pentagon.

Most of the energy was dissipated in hitting the ground.

"No! 757, no question. American Airlines. I saw the plane disintegrate and just blow up in a big ball of fire. The building didn't look very damaged initially. But I do see now looking out my window there's quite a chunk in it. I think the blessing here might have been that the airplane did... before it hit the building... hit the ground. A lot of energy might have gone that way."

Next witness please.

Witness testimony is notoriously unreliable......FOR EXACT DETAILS.

All the same, in the very quick moment in which it went by him,
It LOOKED like a 757.

It LOOKED like it hit the ground.

It LOOKED like trhe building was not damaged much initially (one would expect crap to be flying in all directions if a normal building was hit, but the Pentagon is an armoured building).

However, usually the large details, like it being a fucking big passenger plane, and that it went right into the Pentagon.....remain incontrovertible. Too many witnesses.


Still haven't responded, ENT....

What is your opinion, if any, about what actually happened.

My post #7032

Where did your expert witness say he saw " big passenger plane, and that it went right into the Pentagon.." ?

No evidence on the ground supporting his claims, nothing, all vaporized.

The taxi driver on the bridge with a light=pole stuck through his windscreen?

If you want a laugh watch this..

This thread really has degenerated into complete crap, from the usual shitheads...

Originally Posted by Latindancer

The lack of aircraft wreckage at both the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania ?

There was plenty. It was just shredded. Think about the physics of it.

Yeah, the physics! You mean shredded like when they plowed into the WTCs.

Oh, yeah, the fire brought them down!

Originally Posted by Latindancer

This thread really has degenerated into complete crap, from the usual shitheads...

And the usual opposes who are quick to through insults first!

Originally Posted by Latindancer

You need to get up to speed, mate. They DID find engines in the Pentagon. I've posted photos of them previously.

Post 'em again.

This is what Rolls Royce spokeman said about the engine rotor found in Pentagon

911 in Plane Site | World Trade Center & Pentagon Attack Conspiracy of September 11- 2001

Originally Posted by Latindancer

This thread really has degenerated into complete crap, from the usual shitheads...

What you really mean is that you haven't got a leg to stand on and the other trolls aren't too keen on backing you up with more lies and insults.

You're a poor loser when faced with reality.