Yes, but what about all the people who actually SAW the plane hit ?
ENT says that they were all as mad as hens, but they were a large cross-section of the population....
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Yes, but what about all the people who actually SAW the plane hit ?
ENT says that they were all as mad as hens, but they were a large cross-section of the population....
Who actually saw a plane hit the Pentagon?
Not who saw a big explosion, or a plane flying nearby, or heard a plane, but who in fact saw an airliner actually crash into the Pentagon building?
No-one.
I've posted a link here previously about the many people who were witnesses. But for starters, how about reading more carefully
https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...ormal_Nerd.jpg
this recent post of Harry's ?
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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Probably the people that actually saw the fucking thing as opposed to dimwit internet babbling idiots like you Buttplug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonfly
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Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.
"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."
Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."
A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."
None of those 'witnesses' saw a plane hit the Pentagon.Quote:
Originally Posted by LatindancerI've posted a link here previously about the many people who were witnesses. But for starters, how about reading more carefully
this recent post of Harry's ?
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Originally Posted by harrybarracudaProbably the people that actually saw the fucking thing as opposed to dimwit internet babbling idiots like you Buttplug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonfly
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Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head.
"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."
Afework Hagos, a] computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."
A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."
Not a very reliable witnesses for your claim, Ld.
On top of that, Timmerman said the plane didn't hit the building! :confused:
Here's some excerpts from the interview he gave to CNN at the time.
"Eye-witness Tim Timmerman, a pilot who lives (or 'lived') on the 16th floor of an apartment in Arlington, Virginia overlooking the Pentagon says he saw it clearly. His is a corner apartment with a panoramic view. Timmerman told the CNN reporter:
"I saw a Bowing 757 coming down 395 right over the Columbian Pike. As it went by the Sheraton Hotel the pilot added power. I saw it hit right in front... it didn't appear to have crashed into the building. Most of the energy was dissipated in hitting the ground. But I saw the nose break up. I saw the wings fly forward and everything was engulfed in flames."
CNN: Are you sure it wasn't a 767?
"No! 757, no question. American Airlines. I saw the plane disintegrate and just blow up in a big ball of fire. The building didn't look very damaged initially. But I do see now looking out my window there's quite a chunk in it. I think the blessing here might have been that the airplane did... before it hit the building... hit the ground. A lot of energy might have gone that way."
War on Americans | Pentagon NOT Hit on 9-11
Timmerman directly contradicts Bush's claim that a plane hit the Pentagon and "vapourized" (he's been watching too many hollywood movies) and Rumsfeld's claim that a missile hit the Pentagon.
So who are you gonna believe?
So what are you saying you think happened, ENT ?
Do you, yourself actually have an opinion ?
Tim Timmerman's claim that it hit the ground before it hit the building is pure BS. There were no marks on the ground in front of the Pentagon.
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Most of the energy was dissipated in hitting the ground.
Next witness please.Quote:
"No! 757, no question. American Airlines. I saw the plane disintegrate and just blow up in a big ball of fire. The building didn't look very damaged initially. But I do see now looking out my window there's quite a chunk in it. I think the blessing here might have been that the airplane did... before it hit the building... hit the ground. A lot of energy might have gone that way."
No hijacked airliner, namely AA77 crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.
There are only two videos in public circulation showing an apparent aircraft approach and apparently hit the Pentagon and explode.
Both show something very much unlike a Boeing 757, something much smaller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFewUG3rSY
What's that explosion just in front of the Pentagon as the 'aircraft' approaches, sending a cloud of white smoke into the air along with a separate, smaller brown cloud which starts to descend before the plane/missile hits?
May be it's the 'bomb' that Clinton let slip out. Best to watch from 2 minutes onwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by ENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HcmTOAGVk
which one ? WTC or Pentagon ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
regardless, thousands of people have seen flying saucers and yet your like WILL discount their witness accounts immediately as non-sense
why would you believe them then for the Pentagon ?
in the early hours after the Pentagon hit, I remember CNN mentioning an explosion from a truck or a device, nothing to do with a planeQuote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
anyway, why not show the missing "frame" and why have special agents seize all cams footage less than 1 hour after the explosion
if a story smells like shit, then it probably is
Witness testimony is notoriously unreliable......FOR EXACT DETAILS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
All the same, in the very quick moment in which it went by him,
It LOOKED like a 757.
It LOOKED like it hit the ground.
It LOOKED like trhe building was not damaged much initially (one would expect crap to be flying in all directions if a normal building was hit, but the Pentagon is an armoured building).
However, usually the large details, like it being a fucking big passenger plane, and that it went right into the Pentagon.....remain incontrovertible. Too many witnesses.
Still haven't responded, ENT....
What is your opinion, if any:rolleyes:, about what actually happened.
Not that I care after all this time and utterly stupid comments/dud links by you.
it was the plane that launched the missile, so everyone is rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
case closed,
The lack of aircraft wreckage at both the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania adds to my belief the whole fiasco was not as US official sources state.
Other things adding to my belief are all the Twin towers stuff in the first video on page one of this thread, plus other things like how one of the purported terrorist's passport was found just hours after the building collapse, on the street.
No black box ever found, but a paper passport survived the conflagration...and handed in so quickly, even before the dust had fully settled. And why take your passport on a domestic trip, and a domestic trip that is a suicide trip to boot?
And wasn't there some stuff about yet another Bush, Jeb, selling of his shares in WTC or a company based in WTC just weeks before 9/11? I'm a bit vague on this one.
The lack of aircraft wreckage at both the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania ?
There was plenty. It was just shredded. Think about the physics of it.
What of all other plane crashes in the world. Always debris found, usually the engines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
You need to get up to speed, mate. They DID find engines in the Pentagon. I've posted photos of them previously.
they found jets that are used for missiles actually, not commercial planes
it's a missile period. Anyone thinking otherwise is a gullible idiot who probably voted for Bush and believed his BS on Iraq WMDs
as for WTC demolition, we will never know. Period. All evidence have been destroyed quickly by the government so something fishy went on, but what ? we will never know.
They found nothing traceable to AA77 at the Pentagon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
The engine shown was too small for a Boeing 757
Those nice shiny clean pieces of aircraft scattered on the clean lawn weren't from a recent oil-fired crash explosion.
My post #7032Quote:
Originally Posted by LatindancerWitness testimony is notoriously unreliable......FOR EXACT DETAILS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
All the same, in the very quick moment in which it went by him,
It LOOKED like a 757.
It LOOKED like it hit the ground.
It LOOKED like trhe building was not damaged much initially (one would expect crap to be flying in all directions if a normal building was hit, but the Pentagon is an armoured building).
However, usually the large details, like it being a fucking big passenger plane, and that it went right into the Pentagon.....remain incontrovertible. Too many witnesses.
Still haven't responded, ENT....
What is your opinion, if any, about what actually happened.
Where did your expert witness say he saw " big passenger plane, and that it went right into the Pentagon.." ?
No evidence on the ground supporting his claims, nothing, all vaporized.
The taxi driver on the bridge with a light=pole stuck through his windscreen?
If you want a laugh watch this.. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvyQ0vVwjqc
This thread really has degenerated into complete crap, from the usual shitheads...
Yeah, the physics! You mean shredded like when they plowed into the WTCs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
Oh, yeah, the fire brought them down!
And the usual opposes who are quick to through insults first!Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
Post 'em again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
911 in Plane Site | World Trade Center & Pentagon Attack Conspiracy of September 11- 2001Quote:
This is what Rolls Royce spokeman said about the engine rotor found in Pentagon
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2016/06/908.jpg
What you really mean is that you haven't got a leg to stand on and the other trolls aren't too keen on backing you up with more lies and insults.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
You're a poor loser when faced with reality. :)