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    Washington’s Cover-Up Of The Saudi Role In The 9/11 Terrorist Attack Continues


    In light of a recent 60 Minutes segment, according to which classified "28 pages" may shed light on Saudi ties to terrorism, here is a an article which was originally posted in the December 2015 edition of Future of Freedom.
    By ZeroHedge.com | April 11, 2016

    Do Americans have the right to learn whether a foreign government helped finance the 9/11 attacks? A growing number of congressmen and senators are demanding that a 28-page portion of a 2002 congressional report finally be declassified. The Obama administration appears to be resisting, and the stakes are huge. What is contained in those pages could radically change Americans’ perspective on the war on terror.
    The congressional Joint Inquiry Into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001, completed its investigation in December 2002. But the Bush administration stonewalled the release of the 838-page report until mid 2003 — after its invasion of Iraq was a fait accompli — and totally suppressed a key portion. Former U.S. Sen. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) chairman of the investigation, declared that “there is compelling evidence in the 28 pages that one or more foreign governments was involved in assisting some of the hijackers in their preparation for 9/11.” Graham later indicated that the Saudis were the guilty party. But disclosing Saudi links to 9/11 could have undermined efforts by some Bush administration officials to tie Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks.
    Almost everyone has forgotten how hard the Bush administration fought to torpedo that report. In April 2003, controversy raged on Capitol Hill over the Bush administration’s continuing efforts to suppress almost all of the report by the Joint Intelligence Committee investigation. Some intelligence officials even insisted on “reclassifying” as secret some of the information that had already been discussed in public hearings, such as the FBI Phoenix Memo. On May 13, Senator Graham accused the Bush administration of engaging in a “cover-up” and said that the report from the congressional investigation “has not been released because it is, frankly, embarrassing … embarrassing as to what happened before September 11th, but maybe even more so the fact that the lessons of September 11th are not being applied today to reduce the vulnerability of the American people.” Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) complained that intelligence agencies sought to totally censor the report: “The initial thing that came back was absolutely an insult, and it would be laughable if it wasn’t so insulting, because they redacted half of what we had. A lot of it was to redact a word that revealed nothing.”
    When the report was finally released, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) added an additional opinion in which he castigated “the FBI’s dismal recent history of disorganization and institutional incompetence in its national-security work.” The congressional report was far blunter than the subsequent 9/11 Commission. The congressional investigation concluded that the FBI’s “mixed record of attention contributed to the United States becoming, in effect, a sanctuary for radical terrorists.” But the Bush administration may have succeeded in stonewalling the most damaging revelations.
    Suppressing the 28 pages was intensely controversial at the time. Senator Shelby, the vice chairman of the joint inquiry, urged declassification of almost all of the 28 pages because “the American people are crying out to know more about who funds, aids, and abets terrorist activities in the world.” Forty-six senators, spearheaded by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and including almost all the Democratic members, signed a letter to President George W. Bush urging the release of the 28 pages.
    Bush, at a July 30, 2003 press conference, justified suppressing the 28 pages:
    We have an ongoing investigation about what may or may not have taken place prior to September the 11th. And therefore, it is important for us to hold this information close so that those who are being investigated aren’t alerted…. If we were to reveal the content of the document, 29 [sic] pages of a near-900-page report, it would reveal sources and methods. By that, I mean it would show people how we collect information and on whom we’re collecting information, which, in my judgment, and in the judgment of senior law-enforcement officials in my administration, would be harmful on the war against terror.
    And then he dangled a carrot: “Now, at some point in time, as we make progress on the investigation, and as a threat to our national security diminishes, perhaps we can put out the document. But in my judgment, now is not the time to do so.”
    Protecting incompetence

    The claim of secrecy is routinely a cloak for incompetence. As former Senator Graham said earlier this year, “Much of what passes for classification for national-security reasons is really classified because it would disclose incompetence. And since the people who are classifying are also often the subject of the materials, they have an institutional interest in avoiding exposure of their incompetence.”
    Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) revived the push to declassify the pages in 2013. Jones is a conservative stalwart best known for coining the phrase “freedom fries” in 2003 when France opposed invading Iraq. He has since become one of the most outspoken opponents of reckless U.S. intervention abroad. He explained that he introduced a resolution because “the American people deserve the truth. Releasing these pages will enhance our national security, not harm it.”
    Jones further explained that “the information contained in the redacted pages is critical to our foreign policy moving forward and should thus be available to the American public. If the 9/11 hijackers had outside help — particularly from one or more foreign governments — the press and the public have a right to know what our government has or has not done to bring justice to all of the perpetrators.”
    Last May, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) fresh from a bracing filibuster against the renewal of the USA PATRIOT Act, joined the 28-page fight. He introduced the Transparency for the Families of 9/11 Victims and Survivors Act, co-sponsored by Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.). The suppressed pages are another wedge between Paul and other Republican presidential candidates: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie rejects declassification, instead urging deference to the president’s judgment on the issue. A person attending a recent New Hampshire event asked Christie, “Don’t we have a right to know?” Christie replied, “That’s for the president of the United States to decide.… [The] question is: In his judgment and the judgment of the people in the national-security apparatus, do they believe there’s something in there that’s classified that would cause harm or danger to American interests?” But cravenness is never a good recipe for safety.
    Members of Congress can read the still-classified pages in a special secure room on Capitol Hill if they get prior permission from the House or Senate Intelligence Committee. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), one of the few members to read the report, was shocked: “I had to stop every couple of pages and just sort of absorb and try to rearrange my understanding of history for the past 13 years and the years leading up to that. It challenges you to rethink everything.” Massie is one of 18 co-sponsors of Jones’s resolution in the House.

    Too much trouble

    It is encouraging that the effort spearheaded by Congressman Jones has garnered support on Capitol Hill. But it is surprising that the 28-page disclosure campaign has not yet spurred far more members of Congress to read the document. Unfortunately, members of Congress were also grossly negligent when it came to the evidence to justify invading Iraq. In October 2002, prior to the vote on the congressional resolution to permit Bush to do as he pleased on Iraq, the CIA delivered a 92-page classified assessment of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to Capitol Hill. The classified CIA report raised far more doubts about the existence of Iraqi WMDs than did the five-page executive summary that all members of Congress received.
    The report was stored in two secure rooms — one each for the House and the Senate. Only six senators bothered to visit the room to look at the report, and only a “handful” of House members did the same, according to the Washington Post. Sen. John Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) explained that congressmen were too busy to read the report: “Everyone in the world wants to come to see you” in your office, and going to the secure room is “not easy to do.” Hundreds of thousands of Americans were sent 6,000 miles away to swelter for months in burning deserts because congressmen could not be bothered to walk across the street. Most congressmen had ample time to give saber-rattling speeches for war, but no time to sift the purported evidence for the invasion.
    Why is the Obama administration continuing to suppress a report completed more than a dozen years ago? It is not as if the White House’s credibility would be damaged by revelations of Saudi bankrolling the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor (15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis).
    And it is not as if the Saudis became squeaky-clean Boy Scouts after 9/11. Saudi sources are widely reported to be bankrolling Islamic State terrorists throughout the Middle East; Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Senate committee last September, “I know major Arab allies who fund [ISIS].”
    Barack Obama just ordered more U.S. troops to Iraq to seek to rebuff the ISIS onslaught. If the Saudis are helping sow fresh chaos in the Middle East, that is another reason to disclose their role in an attack that helped launch conflicts that have already cost thousands of American lives and more than $1.6 trillion, according to the Congressional Research Service.
    “Don’t confuse me with the facts” should be the motto of the war on terror. Self-government is an illusion if politicians can shroud the most important details driving federal policy. If Americans have learned anything since 9/11, it should be the folly of deferring to Why Is Washington Addicted to War? - The Future of Freedom Foundation secrecy.


    Washington?s Cover-Up Of The Saudi Role In The 9/11 Terrorist Attack Continues

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Only six senators bothered to visit the room to look at the report, and only a “handful” of House members did the same.


    Hundreds of thousands of Americans were sent 6,000 miles away to swelter for months in burning deserts because congressmen could not be bothered to walk across the street. Most congressmen had ample time to give saber-rattling speeches for war, but no time to sift the purported evidence for the invasion.
    Pretty pathetic, eh. I wouldn't put it past the Saudis, but making that fact public is against America's political interests..

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    Actually it all makes sense now.

    USA created AQ. AQ Blamed for 9/11. AQ now being armed and funded again by the US to fight and kill the legitimate Syrian government and the people of that country. Syria is also being attacked by ISIS, set up by the US (Big Zbig), mostly with Saudi and Turkey as the front line supporters, trained by the Security contractor companies that the US made so big (Academi etc) who are then blamed for the attacks in France (when France had said that Palestine really should perhaps be brought into the diplomatic circle) and then France again when they said again, not haing learnt their lesson, that Palestine should be supported a little, and then a few other places, and then Belgium recognised the State of Palestine just before "ISIS" attacked them.

    Amazing - a bunch of middle eastern folk travel 2000 miles to Belgium when if they really are "islamic terrorists", they would be travelling a few hundred miles to attack israel. But they don't. They go to Israel to get treatment when they are injured.


    Hmmm yes - Harry and all the other flat earther cognitive dissonance suffering head in the sand fools are right.....

    NO CONSPIRACY

    IT WAS NOT AN INSIDE JOB

    No One DARE speak about ISRAEL. Don't google 6,000,000 jews or you will go to prison.



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    Well I never... they let internet connected computers into broadmoor

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    How long you in for?

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    no probs dapper we can wait, take your time

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    no probs dapper we can wait, take your time
    I bet you can. How many personalities do you really have?

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    At least two, one can't spell for shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Well I never... they let internet connected computers into broadmoor
    I think there must be a shortage of psychotropics in Thailand. They all seem a little excited.


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    The 60 Minutes piece on the 28 pages.

    28 Pages - CBS News

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Well I never... they let internet connected computers into broadmoor
    Which part of it is wrong? Which part can you prove to be incorrect?

    USA created AQ.


    The Big Bzig with his mate Tim Osman


    AQ Blamed for 9/11.


    Even a colossal marrow head like Hazz admits that everyone thinks AQ did 9/11

    AQ now being armed and funded again by the US to fight and kill the legitimate Syrian government and the people of that country
    .

    KUHNER: How Obama arms al Qaeda - Washington Times

    Syria is also being attacked by ISIS, set up by the US (Big Zbig), mostly with Saudi and Turkey as the front line supporters,


    trained by the Security contractor companies that the US made so big (Academi etc)

    (of course he did. Nah.... fulfilling a contract).

    who are then blamed for the attacks in France (when France had said that Palestine really should perhaps be brought into the diplomatic circle)
    French parliament votes to recognize Palestinian state | The Times of Israel

    Don't fuck with Israel.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

    and then France again when they said again, not haing learnt their lesson,
    French ultimatum on Palestine: Recognition or UN resolution | i24news - See beyond

    Should have listened Froggies
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novemb..._Paris_attacks

    that Palestine should be supported a little, and then a few other places, and then Belgium recognised the State of Palestine just before "ISIS" attacked them.
    Belgian Government Parties Reportedly Agree to Recognize Palestine - Diplomacy and Defense - Haaretz

    What part of "don't fuck with Israel" didn't they understand?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Brussels_bombings

    Amazing - a bunch of middle eastern folk travel 2000 miles to Belgium when if they really are "islamic terrorists", they would be travelling a few hundred miles to attack israel.
    Maybe they did?
    ISIS carries out rocket attacks on Israel days after jihadis killed 50 Egyptian soldiers | Daily Mail Online

    But no - these are the same "missiles" that israel fires into israel to blame on Palestinians to justify another blood sacrifice - or what idiots call a war against the civilian population of Gaza.

    But they don't. They go to Israel to get treatment when they are injured.



    So what was incorrect? Oh, none of it. It is all true so I fully expect a "funny" ad hominem attack from you shortly. Ohhh how you will laugh. What joy.

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    Pseudo I owe you an apology. I had you on block, but I've since retracted that. You are correct in your anti Israelis views. It took the 9/11 thread for me to arrive at that conclusion. So please accept my apology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Pseudo I owe you an apology. I had you on block, but I've since retracted that. You are correct in your anti Israelis views. It took the 9/11 thread for me to arrive at that conclusion. So please accept my apology.
    No apology needed. All those who wipe the sleep from our eyes and realise the game also remember what it was like when we were blinded by the false history and lies from politicians and the media.

    Just wonder if your response to the next sacrificial blood letting the zionist scum will launch against the people of Gaza will be different. The last one I seem to recall you saying that the inhabitants of Gaza could stop it if they wanted it to stop. Like saying the animals in an abattoir could stop the killing there if they wanted it to stop.

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    Bloody Joos dunnit eh?

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    Nothing to do with Jews, Harry, you fucking dick..

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    Well you've fucking blamed every fucker but the ones that did it, so they might as well have their turn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well you've fucking blamed every fucker but the ones that did it, so they might as well have their turn.

    Who did it then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well you've fucking blamed every fucker but the ones that did it, so they might as well have their turn.

    Who did it then?
    Start reading at post one you dull c u n t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well you've fucking blamed every fucker but the ones that did it, so they might as well have their turn.

    Who did it then?
    Start reading at post one you dull c u n t.


    It's an inside job 100%. But you are too stupid, too much of an ignorant wanktard to even consider the possibility that what you read inthe new york times is not right

    These fools like harry can never quite bring themselves to say who they think did it though. They have to choke down the bile when actually have to say "Osama Bin Laden did it with a load of Saudi Men - everything Bush and the commission said was true". They actually know that this is bullshit because it is just so preposterous. They also know that Bin Laden was a CIA asset - they know this, but admitting this means that they then have to admit that it was indeed an inside job. Only a retarded merkin fucktard could possible believe the Bin Laden did it story... that is all - no one else. Anyone else who believes it needs a bullet in the back of the head before they pollute the gene pool more.

    So come on, WHO DID IT? You think you know, so who did it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well you've fucking blamed every fucker but the ones that did it, so they might as well have their turn.

    has anyone blamed the human eating lizard people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
    has anyone blamed the human eating lizard people?
    Only you my special buddy!

    Here's a book to help you

    http://www.amazon.com/Another-Ninete.../dp/B00DT5DI5M

    And here's some easier reading for you

    https://digwithin.net/2012/08/11/ano...-911-suspects/

    And a picture, if that's a little too complex for you

    https://www.google.co.th/search?q=an...2SqUoDJIExM%3A
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

    And after that, you can go down the pub.

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    Here's a short video presenting the case for the prosecution.

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