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The PEA engineer also offered to work out what load I might have once finished, and based on his calcs for a 24 cycle, advise me if I need to go for that 30/100 or stick with the 15/45...Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
I already did some calcs so it will be interesting to see what he comes up with!
Yeah... thanks! We been together 5 years, and married over 2 now.Quote:
Originally Posted by David48atTD
The other lady behind is the wife of the builder
Im sure there will be many more pix of both of them over this build...!
Might have missed it but how long to finish?
Not rushing it Norton... 275 days or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
About 75,000 pages I reckon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
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Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Hi Thai DhuppQuote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
A couple of questions if you don't mind. :)
1. What do the two numbers represent? I know it relates to the current (amps), but why the 2 numbers? 15 (45) / 30 (100). If 15 amps, what is the (45)? If 30 amps, what is the (100)? Maximum or peak current?
2. What is the "24 cycle"? 24 hours? 24 months? Something else?
Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Norton
True ... but the man has an eye for detail, is polite and responds to almost every post and ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack meoff
... there's fu8k all else going on the building Forum :)
Go Thai Dhupp ... steadfast into the headwinds and all that.
boom boom!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack meoff
haha lets see, Jack...
You all wanted pictures and I have not even got going with that yet.
LOL OK a page a day for 275 days...is... 75K !!
so I better crack on!!
Stay tuned!
Cheers David... doing my best, while sitting at my day job work desk wishing I was there....Quote:
Originally Posted by David48atTD
Camp set up pix and cage building coming today, if i can find the time.
Greetings from sunny Dubai, Neverna!. thanks for the 'stop-by'..Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
OK I'm no electrician, but, as far as I know, the second number is the maximum rated load, and the first number is the calibration current (something to do with the accuracy of the meter) ..sorry I cant be more help and I have maybe got this wrong anyway.
I believe the meters can handle up to 100% over the stated current, so 15/45 meter could handle up to 90A without blowing up. The fuse protection is usually set to about 50% over current so maxing it out in this example, at around 63A
BTW..anyone... feel free to jump in n' tell me I am all wrong on this!!
The '24' was indeed the 24 hours in a day cycle so we can determine the maximum requirements when more than one thing is running together.
From that we will decide what the best supply is, and plan for it at the end of the build
Hope that is some help...
Building the Chonburi Hilton...
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The first delivery.
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Carrying it to the 'promised land'.
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cant beat a bit o' base.
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Got the frame up...whats next?!
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Roof!! yeah...good idea.
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Could this be the Intricately Designed On-Site Waste-Handling/Processing Facility?
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Walls next.
Just keep in mind that Thai electricians tend to calculate maximum load as the absolute possible load that might occur. In reality, you will never have all electrical devices on at once, (all air cons, all lights, washing machine, water pump, water heater etc) and so a smaller. cheaper transformer is all that's needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
That's quite the accommodations, must be a room for each family lol
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Are these rates just a one time fee to get setup?
Interesting thread, thanks for taking the time out to share.
^^^^Are those the staff quarters above?
All the best
CCC
Fabricating the pile cages
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just starting...
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close up
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Cutting to size
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Got a real little production line going...
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neat
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looks pretty good
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Dont stop me now...
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I'm having such a good time, I'm having a ball
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If we get these cages right
...the house will not fall...
yeah...I know...wasted in the day job. I shoud be on the stage.
Looks very good. Never ceases to amaze me how good they do this with nothing but hand work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Hey CCC thanks for the encouragement... yeah the Chonburi Hilton is open for business (nothing like the Bangkok Hilton!). Family worker accommodation at its best. K. Pot seems to be a pretty good boss so far...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chittychangchang
There's a couple of spare ones if you need a break Dennis, and want to watch progress first hand. I'm sure they will share their snake stew with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
When I see these pictures Norton , its like watching that airport job but on micro scale comparison! All the stages exactly the same. The airport cages were also hand-made. Labour is cheap in the Middle East too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
I don't know Dennis, don't even know what we paid 'cos SWMBO was in charge of the funds that day. I was too busy capturing* the helpful PEA ladies (see previous photo) which i though was also important... there.s a receipt somewhere so I will seek it out...Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
*capturing with the camera, nothing more physical, before anyone jumps to conclusions. We only do the bondage stuff at weekends, and never straight after a big lunch...
'Pile' cages or 'post' cages?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
If they are piles ... 10 metre + piles? WOW
If they were post cages... double wow!! The boundary wall is only 2.5m maxQuote:
Originally Posted by David48atTD
yep, piles it is though its a case of ensuring we get down to 'the hard stuff' without joining together. So yeah..10m cages
Yes I know could be better to do tit differently but,,hes given the price to put 50-odd piles down to the solid underlying so its up to him... some might be nearly all the 10m, some might be a lot less, but the fixed price was extremely reasonable, as he owns all his own equipment so no x-hiring. I was happy, so hes doing the job.
Incidentally the fixed price was less than the commercial pile company I located 10km away from the site
Nice to see you have started ThaiDhupp, looking forward to this build, looking very professional so far.
Hope those hardworking ladies are on equal pay ?
Wish you all the best for your build, and thanx for sharing.
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Originally Posted by David48atTD
Humm ... maybe I'm mis-understanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Say the pile, vertical fence post is 10 metres long. The Fence 2.5 high.
So, you are putting a pile 7.5 metres into the ground to support a fence?
I understand that not all will be that deep.
No trying to be smart, just trying to understand. Everyone builds differently.
Don't ever recall eating snake stew over there but I think by the time I get there in Oct. the build should be nearing completion, and all snakes in the area eaten lol
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This is something I haven't seen before, what I've seen before, they make small loops or rectangular rebar in a jig and tie to columns, wrapping rebar in a coil is different. I guess quicker if you have a way to make the spirals.
I'm guessing capturing PEA ladies is more fun than paying bills. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
Hey TD, finally another active build thread to go with morning cuppa... Don't forget the Lao khao, incense, and pig's head offering to the land spirits before digging any deep holes, you don't want to be upsetting 'those who shall not be talked about'!
Jonny! thanks for stopping by.. yeah we will try to maintain the daily blow by blow account for the whole 275 days - not easy when I am in Dubai, but lets give it a try! You are right - a drink's too wet without a good story to help it along, so I will attempt to oblige!Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnyenglish
Thanks for the reminder - the 'offering ' ceremony is taking place on the 15th February, after consultation with the monks. She's already ordered 2 pigs heads, 2 ducks , 2 chickens, and lord knows what else (!), and + the booze so that we can be sure of a good luck boost for the duration! The kids were sorting out the 'gold' (well, coinage) we will be burying in the foundations. I will be attending digitally via Skype (best I can do as i only just returned back from 17 days in LOS!).
Pictures of that event will follow. I am slightly behind on the photos because I am so busy here. Shes sending them, I'm just having trouble finding time to edit and post. (*note to self - must do better*)
Hi Dennis - this builder is turning out to be a better than expected choice (OK its still early days) as he has a huge amount of equipment, so no hiring, borrowing or buying. I'm expecting him to roll up with a concrete pump for when we do the upper slabs. He's got a crane, and a lot of other kit already on site. His company is a proper building / engineering outfit and so far anyway, it shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
I have not even described or shown his 'woodworking' skills yet which was another reason why we went with him. That's to come soon.
Well...there's a first time for everything, and even if the snake population has been obliterated, there will always be Tom Yum Lizard as a fall-back. Yum yum...you know it makes sense....Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
Lol, no probs David...Quote:
Originally Posted by David48atTD
You were saying 'pile' or 'post'... i was saying the only 'posts' we will do short term are the boundary wall posts so unlikely to need 10m...
OK.. this is the story. the OrBorTor engineer said the strong lower layer in the building zone could be 6-7m down. We then added 1m of fill (covered in an earlier part of this thread). So, up to 7-8m down. It's the great unknown even on the plot potentially wildly varying depths (his words, not mine). When I put this to the builder during the contract negotiations, he said he would plan a 10m pile and if it was less he will be cropping it anyway.
No 'charge / m' or costing based on how much he digs of places. It was a fixed cost for the job, the job being placing the piles, cropping as necessary, creating the pile caps, and completing the slabs for zone A, B and C even though we are only building zone A and B at this time.
His lump sum cost for this was very reasonable (less than we were quoted by the other pile /concrete company 10km away) so we went for it. I like knowing in advance the costs - I dont like surprises, especially if it involves 'we need extra money, etc etc!). If the pile placement is shallow, as a couple have been, he will simply cut off the remaining cage and use it again , so nothing is really wasted.
The Orbortor engineer has already been out to site and confirms that the operation is going correctly
The boundary wall is up to 2.5M tall, so definitely will not need a 10M pile! I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek about that. sorry...
Hey DM...welcome back!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Metal
Thanks for that, yeah I believe they equally share the grasshoppers-on-sticks, and they share the accommodation & sleeping arrangements too... wait a minute... 275 days is ...around.... err...9 months... I hope there is not an explosion in the staff numbers (junior division) at the end...
I'm sure the pay is equal but maybe thats not fair as they seem to be doing all the work!!
Thanks for the good wishes and encouragement - I will try to keep the story interesting for all...
...and I think this is something that we can all agree on!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
^^^ Thanks :)
Material Delivery...
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Steel and cement
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The good thing is, its not too soft and slippery underfoot - that time for the land settling was worth it.
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Its being used straight away, but there is plenty of room for lay-down if needed.
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Let's get that cement off...
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...and into some dry storage.
First days drilling
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Drilling in process...
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the grout pan
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Checking the equipment ...
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Some better marking out of the floor plan now
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Onward, onward...
Getting the money ready for the ceremony...
Meanwhile, back in Bangkok, the junior Project Managers were, ummm... dealing with 'fiscal matters'...
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It's calm so far...normally they are fighting...
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"Hey! how come I have only the small coins? "
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OK OK gold coins all round - peace restored.
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Finally they made a few sets like his...
...one more job off Princess Joy's busy list of 'things to do' for the ceremony
Home life in the Choonburi Hilton...
Building the hotel swimming pool...
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I think in this one they are doing the washing...
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OK... actually preparing mortar for the auger'ed pile holes
Pretty swish camp though, eh?!