Cheers Norton, I have made a note for nearer the time...
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You are Welcome, Always glad to help.
Thai Dhupp, Not to hijack your thread at all but to offer some ideas, Below is a picture of my TV room. I have 7 ceiling fans like this through out our place. Bedrooms are remote control, others are wall control. All have lights.
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Norton is right Global House has good ones. We bought ours online all at one time and received a pretty good discount and free delivery. Never had an issue with any of them. I am sitting under one right now as I type this.....:)
There is no hijacking, just good information exchange between everyone involved in this build thread.
I welcome all the info as its a big help - I cannot think of everything as has been proved several times!!
That's a nice looking fan - is it Global's own brand or an independent manufacturer?
Hi Thai Dhupp. I have just returned to your thread after weeks away and find it quite magnificent. Your honesty & integrity in reporting on your build has been instrumental in the number of responses from very well meaning readers. Congrats & best wishes for your continued success. As I get closer to my build I will be sure to make contact as your builder is proving to be a god send.
Hi Radar and thanks for your kind words of encouragement. I hope this will be an informative thread for everyone setting out on the build journey.
Yeah.. so far (apart from the phot0-issue with the slab pour!!) the builder has been excellent. I'm sure he will be glad to hear we are all rooting for him!!
I have told him he is being followed by many on the internet thread so that might also keep him on track - probably not needed though as he has a wealth of experience AND equipment and his pricing is very competitive for the standard of work.
First Floor ring beam shutter base and supports
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Standing in the master bedroom, looking through dressing room and en-suite. below is dining room and office
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View to kitchen with bedroom 2 above
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Dining room folding doors, with covered open area to the right.
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Standing in bedroom 2, with kitchen below, and looking towards master bedroom suite with office and dining room below
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Standing between bedroom 2 en-suite and living room, looking towards master bedroom suite
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Dining room with master bedroom balcony above
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Looking from rear of house into covered open area. Actually, Zone 3 will ultimately be built next to the open area
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Next comes the beam steel...
Shutter floor and steel cage fitting
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Looking good mate.
Really good and good for you Dhupp.
Enjoy the journey.
I am enjoying it LT, just wish I was there right now. Finally you can see the shape and location of the rooms
All that hard work I did coming up with the design, sketching and re-sketching it, handing that to the draftsman and finally getting an engineer to sign off and the approval being granted, has turned my design concept into usable plans and, at last a tangible structure.
It is a good feeling to see your idea become a reality.
LOL... hope to god I did not fu... mess up at the start!
Will be exactly as good as your drawings :)
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Hi again TD, I have followed a number of builds on here but none have come close to the high standard of your builder (IMHO).
Its a standard you'd expect from a big company site. Everything is so professional looking in the way he tackles each segment of the build.
Q. How high will your ceilings be ?
Q. Where will your clothes drying area be ?
Q. Where will your gas bottles be located ? ( the outside of your kitchen wall perhaps ?)
Will they have their own little house perhaps ?
Very enjoyable read, inspirational. Thanks
The clothes drying area may seem a stupid Q. but it has to be tackled sooner or later.
I was thinking of putting ours between the house and the garage under well ventilated cover, to keep the Sun off them.
Hi DM, sure, lets have a look at your questions...
Q. How high will your ceilings be ?
Ceilings will be a minimum 3m tall. I say minimum because, for the upper rooms , some might have the cathedral -type extension, up, maybe taking them to 3.5m+. There is a large, tall void space in that Ayutthaya roof.
Q. Where will your clothes drying area be ?
Ahh yes.. clothes drying! well...initially, it will be in the 10m x 8m open area under the living room - the ground floor of zone 2. However, we will probably create a small walled area out of sight, behind zone 2, and away from the pedestrian walk round to the house entrance.
Q. Where will your gas bottles be located ?
This one is simple. No gas. No bottles. No requirement. We will not be having gas in the house. The cooking for PJ outside, when she does it, will be traditional, with the charcoal, she likes it.
Inside the kitchen we are having an induction hob as its a smooth, clean line in the work top, and as we know, induction cooking brings the highest energy efficiency, something like 80-85% efficient, against gas 45% (heat lot of air with gas) and the speed of gas.
I have used induction in the UK for many years, and I even have a very good 4-ring induction hob in my Dubai apartment right now.
The plus is, induction keeps your pans from blackening over time, with the soot you get from gas.
This is all before we consider the fire / explosion potential from gas. Having once been blown backwards while lighting a faulty gas oven in Oman, its an experience I do not want any of my family to repeat!
Silly me ! Induction, of course . Since I was a babe its been Gas , never considered Induction because I never needed to.
I think that is probrably the best idea, will run that one past the wife, but I can say that I'm sold on the idea for all the reasons you have highlighted .
This is exactly why we need these forums to become better informed and make the right choices, thanks for that Thai Dhupp.
Totally agree with you.
Nearer the time I will be looking for suggestions for kitchen brand appliances - whats good, what to avoid.
I have great experiences with deDeitrich and terrible experiences with Smeg. That's me...but maybe not you, so I will seek advice from members for the kitchen kit, the A/C, etc etc.
Hopefully this info can be shared and discussed here, for the benefit of all.
" No gas. ... The cooking for PJ outside, when she does it, will be traditional, with the charcoal, she likes it."
Humm ... TD, I would double confirm that with SWMBO
The only time we use charcoal at the Farm is when we grill/open flame various seafood.
IMHO a gas ring, outside, might be an option to consider.
Apologies if I seem negative and questioning your innovative ideas, just that many of them is opposite to my
experiences of living in Thailand.
David, you got it in one... that's the ONLY BBQ-style cooking she will be doing!
Right now, she's cooking 'outside' in our lil' apartment...using a single ring INDUCTION hob! Never once lit the BBQ, she only does that when she's at her Mum's place.
No worries, its not negative, its just 'different strokes for different folks', or something like that... shes actually more interested in the western-style kitchen, with mod-cons, and AC than slaving over anything outside with the mosquitos. The Thai kitchen will be for BBQ, simply to keep the smoke, and any smell out of the house.
Coming to live with me in Abu Dahbi, opened her eyes to multi-ring cooking, and of course the oven, something she did not have access to before. Baked fish, caulli-cheese, even roast lamb have been greatly enjoyed.
She can always keep our existing induction hob out there too, if she really needs it.
Hi Norton, yes...originally, we were going with this set-up too, until I had the 'incident' in Oman.
She was initially skeptical about cooking speed and the instant nature of gas, until I showed her just how fast induction is.
Now we are set on electric oven and hob.
TD ... time to teach me something :)
In the West, we don't have induction hot plates.
I need to replace the cook-top.
'Normal' cook tops can be got for circa US $400 - $600 (Budget Range)
The 'Induction' is twice/three times that ... and I've balked at the price.
Is Induction that much better?
Special pans required?
Tips for beginners?
Hi David, Ok I can share what I know...
Gas heats up the pan and the air around it. Its wasteful, but even at around 45% efficiency, the intensity of gas heats the pan (and contents) rapidly.
What we want is something that has the immediacy of gas, without all the cleaning, excess heat and potential fire risk.
Enter ...induction cooking .
Literally, a magnetic field is 'induced' in the pan and the pan molecules become excited, heat is generated, and the pan cooks the food.
The induction hob itself only becomes warm from conducted, and radiated heat from the pan. Only the part of the pan touching the induction hob reflects heat back to the hob.
Maybe you have seen the videos of people putting a small amount of water in a saucepan, putting it half on the induction hob, and putting their hand on the other half, then switching it full on and boiling the water while the hand remains cool?
Anyway, this hob requires magnetic-abled cookware - iron and steel are fine (just check they are magnetic using a ...magnet). Aluminium, copper and gold pans are out (unless you buy those 'gold' pans from Kalyan Jewellers)
All this results in 80-85% efficiency, meaning an electricity saving every time you cook - less energy is 'wasted' in heating air - virtually all the power is channeled into the pan, and thence to the pan contents.
Personally, I believe it is worth it. No need to strip down the hob for cleaning every so often. just wipe it clean after cooking. The hob sits flat on the worktop so the work top lines are not altered. You can set a cook timer individually on each of the cooking zones which is good. It has a child lock too. Can't do any of that with the average gas hob. It heats up just as fast as gas, and it has enough adjustment on the temp control to find the one you are looking for
A big part of what I do involves safety, so I am interested in not introducing a fire/explosion hazard into the home. There will be 2 relatively young persons in the house so...why chance it, if there is the option to avoid it?.
Some say, 'ahh but... you cant flambe,' 'you cant do stir fry', etc. Well... with a magnetic wok, not an aluminium one, you can stir-fry. Granted there is no naked flame for flambe but how much flambe'ing is anyone doing? I do a lot of cooking and I have never flambe'd anything (burnt quite a lot of stuff though, but that don't count). If flambe food is your thing, get a gas-lighter wand or stick to gas hob cooking!
Although the concept has been around for a long time it only became domestic mainstream in the last 20 years or so. I bought my first induction hob about 12 years ago. Prior to that the choice was electric ceramic or gas so a goodly number of folks went for gas, the quicker option.
The new kid on the block may be dearer but I think its benefits out-weight that, and induction hobs are getting cheaper. I bought my deDeitrich unit for 400 quid, discounted so about 18,000AED and that was, as I say, 12 years ago. Last time I looked in HomePro, there were units for about 23,000THB. I believe that the 5,000THB difference is less than cost-of-living rises over those 12 years?
OK...enough of my rambling!! My preference is Induction, its modern, clean and efficient. Who's to say I am right? Its just my choice, for the reasons given above.
Hope that helped...!
My preference is Induction, its modern, clean and efficient. Who's to say I am right? Its just my choice, for the reasons given above.
I agree with you TD, we will be using a induction top for inside kitchen and gas for outside Thai kitchen, for all the reasons you described above, the biggest reason for us is to keep the heat out.
My wife & I are planning a month’s visit to BKK & Phon-Ngam, Isaan from early July and would really appreciate being able to visit your construction site as we research suppliers for our home. If that would be acceptable to you would you please drop me a PM so that we can arrange for it. I would also like to make contact with Dennis4558 & Norton as they live in Roi Et which is very close to us during that same trip. If they too could let me know in due course I would welcome the contact.
Send me a PM when you get to Roiet. We can get together.
Thank you Norton, we look forward to it.
Hi there...it would have to be a time when one or other of us was there, of course!! I am next there late May / early June
I will PM you later, once I have checked the schedule. lol cant have anything stopping K.Pot now hes on a roll...!
Currently, he's 10 days ahead of the contract finish date.
Quick Update...
There's a slight delay in pouring the first floor ring beam as K.Ek (OrBorTor Eng) has found one small discrepancy in the steel work for the master bedroom balcony.
K.Pot working on it now.
Nothing serious but again...glad I have the LA on side to keep things moving along correctly.
Reassures me if he finds stuff like this.
Thank you for your response & very happy that K.Pot is doing such a fantastic job for you.
ummm....Assistance, please...
How do I post a clip from YouTube?
Every time I try to do it , I get a message that my post is 'too short', when I am adding 4 or 5 lines of text and the clip itself...
For those who were wondering what my previous comment about 'Kalyan Jewellers' was all about...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAUnOTQ5hVA
hmmm..magnetic 'solid' gold and solid gold with non-gold solids....interesting marketing going on in some outlets...
Thanks, David and Klondyke... I learnt something new today