LoL..where do we sign!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maanaam
Totally agree about the fire... yeah... I gotta have it
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LoL..where do we sign!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maanaam
Totally agree about the fire... yeah... I gotta have it
Plinth beam shuttering
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All ready for the pour (once the mixer truck can get on the site).
Yeh Norton we are, was hoping to get things started in Oct this year when we're there but now the wife is dealing on a bigger piece of land so who knows what's going to happen. If you're around then would like to look you up and discuss some things.\Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Thanks TD, I'm sure you should be pretty much completed before we get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Sure. Will be around baring my demise. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
Dennis...that's great!! a (very) early 'best-of-luck' with it, and ...start the planning and organising NOW. It pays dividends later, is my advice. It may seem some way off but...you will be amazed how fast those 8 months will passQuote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
Hopefully so! If his current performance is anything to go by, I think we might finish 1 month ahead of schedule, though I am not pushing him to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis4558
Some of my 'instructional' sketches...
As some of you may know, I am not adverse to 'getting the message across' with a scribble or a sketch or two. I'm not the worlds best artist so probably they hinder as much as they help (!) but never the less, as I cant speak a whole lot of Thai, they are a comfort to me and make me feel I am 'contributing' when PJ is on site with K. Pot...
Here's what I mean..
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He was asking where to put the plumbing, as we have not yet finalised the kitchen layout yet
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Again we were discussing outer shutters and inner windows...
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The PEA are moving that power pole off my land for free. I wanted to know how much to move it right 10M so that we have no pole in front of the plot. (sorry its a bit blurry)
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Although some way off, tile choices .... I want the diamond pattern (on the right), so I sketched it to avoid any confusion later...
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Boundary wall on the road side is 2.5M, but the rest is 2m... so I was showing the step down arrangements for each side of the plot
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My duct bank arrangements under the slab 'just in case' we need to run anything front to back, so we can avoid breaking out the ground floor slab. Might not ever use it but its there anyway.
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Need an entrance gate, right? And pedestrian access? OK... my vision but not yet sure if we can do this. Hope so... no panic yet but will need to be agreed with the builder before he starts the boundary wall.
Sorry.... I have been a bit tied up with work so could not post anything the last few days...
Back on track now so will post the catch up pics today...
A picture is worth a thousand Thai words as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
The column cages now completed...
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NB... thats the power pole i want to be moved to the right 10m
That's true Norton, the question is... can I sketch in Thai...!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Should be no drama unless the span to the next pole on left is too far to properly support wiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
TD,
Thank you for an interesting thread. I follow with interest, having a piece of land and a plan. (Well, she has a piece of land and I have a plan.)
Your builder looks to be doing a great job.
One question.I don't see it asked here, apologies if I missed it: What made you opt for drilling and then casting piles in place? Most builds that I see rely on a ring of plinth beams only. On occasions where I see piles they are usually precast, hammered in to unequal depths of equal resistance, then cut off and capped. Your land looks pretty firm already, suggested by that drilling rig in your pictures.
I have no ideas about the relative merits and costs of the different options. Just curious. Thanks.
Query over the amount of cover on the plinth beam at the junction with the ground floor columns
Well... I had to have one query, right!?
It 'looked' like the cover was only about 10mm - not enough, in other words. No matter, I circled the areas and sent PJ to check. She brought the OrBorTor land engineer with her (he was going to visit anyway)and everyone met up on site.
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Turns out the picture is worth a 1000 words but can't get 1000 angles or perspective!
there is in fact 30mm of over as confirmed by the engineer
...but as we all know, where there's a Farang, there's a drama, and only CHC* can ease the tension...Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
*Cold Hard Cash
Hi Shutee, welcome and thanks for your input and interest...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shutree
OK.... it depends on the strength and ability of the land to support the load (ie the house) and the size of the house you are building (and engineers will tell me to mention point loading, bearing friction, etc etc!!)
In our case we took advice from the OrBorTor office. The top layer of ground looks firm but when wet it becomes springy, soft, and slippery i.e not so good. We built up the land in any case with another 1m of as dug material but it was no better than the original layer. Below that however is a much stronger and solid strata and thats what we wanted to get down to.
Often when you see small slab supports in the soil and a ring beam, it is a single story dwelling, ie much lighter. Someone will have done that calculation for the point loading and the strength of the soil and determined how many uprights are needed. As you say, the ring (plinth) beam and slab ties it all together. Its a sort of raft foundation, spreading the load so as nothing sinks.
Our 'dwelling' , when finished will have 2 stories and a substantial roof, with a footprint of 256m3. its being built in 2 stages - zone A and B now and zone C when funds allow (!).
So .. we have to pile. Now as to why we went with drill and cast. Simple really... K.Pot (builder) had all the equipment to drill and cast, could make super cages for the drill holes and gave a very good price to do it. Either method would have been Ok; we went with him as he has total control and it's in his interest to do a good job as the house he is then building rests on his pile work.
Buying the duct bank PVC pipes
So, going on from my sketch, here are the builders guys collecting the pipework to do it...
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I like it when a plan comes together...
Pouring the Plinth beam concrete
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I knew he would have a skip...
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The ladies keeping up though, with the buckets
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The ladies production line flat out...
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Of course, we are not hand mixing this pour, not enough time and we want a consistent mix
Digging out those pesky mango tree roots
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That mini-digger is surprisingly powerful...
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when he finished digging, he levelled everything up..
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Another job completed.
Striking the plinth beam
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A good pile of shuttering had already been gathered. PJ's Bro checking proceedings...
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Yes..K.Pot confirms it s plinth beam, all right...
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shutter frames.
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OMG shutters everywhere!
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Khun Pot surveys the beam and I know hes thinking...pretty good, huh!?
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The column shutters were already being placed
Ground floor column shuttering
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some shutters placed before striking the plinth beam...
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reasonably straight...
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the OrBorTor engineer dropped by to see the ring beam.
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....now, about that inspection...
Plinth Beam / general inspection
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the Engineer, Khun Ek arrives from the OrBorTor Office.
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''lets get straight to it...''
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'so...this bit is the ''downstairs-outside-under-shade 'bit', is it?...''
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...'and over here is the West Wing...''
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K.Pot: ''Apparently, he calls this bit the 'study/office' but it might be retreat or man-cave or hidey-hole... he's specified a lock on the inside and a hidden booze cupboard, anyway...''
K.Ek: ''interesting...very interesting...''
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"'OK gents... looking good... can you crack on 'cos me and those lovely PEA ladies have all got invites to the pool-party when its finished....''
PEA soup with ham. One of my favs. :) Enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Ground floor plumbing
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Lol...hopefully, all of the above means something to someone - I am not a plumbing expert, so I'm relying on the original plans and K.Pot's ability to follow them.
I think its the right colour anyway. Oh... and its in the ground below the floor so I think thats right too...
Dunno if I will be able to post the photos and numerous videos from that still-some-way-off pool party, Norton cos strictly speaking it's fu... nothing to do with the building thread, and it might incriminate government officials...Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
PEA soup..mmm mmmm... its a winner. Mushy PEA's not bad either. Not so keen on processed PEAs. I didnt see any marrow fat PEA's when I was there...
Fitting the Duct Banks
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Another job completed...
Don't forget the termite tubing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Pouring the ground floor columns
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In the time-honoured way...
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Plenty of supports used.
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Soon my cages will have fattened up and metamorphosed into ... RC columns!!
Not got too many pics of this.. but we have all seen concrete being poured into columns, right!?
Only got video of this bit
Cool. Makes sense to go with the builder, when you have one who knows what he's doing. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
happy to help ... where and when might you be building?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shutree
...and what sort of design?
I've never read of anybody installing something like this in a Thai build ...I'm guessing you intend to use a pressure switch mounted on the window frame to turn off the A/C ? or something more hi-tech ? Each and every window ? Somchai the sparky is going to love that !Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
ha yeah Mike... I wondered if anyone would spot that!! I get carried away sometimes with 1001 ideas popping up all the time. Seemed like a good idea when I wrote it down but as you point out, probably not practical. maybe a pressure switch tho.... lol joking. oh wait... a motion sensor? maybe... but not in the lounge or bedrooms... damn! ...more work needed.
BTW...I have rejected / dismissed so many ideas before we got to the plans, contract and now the build.
That pic was about the windows opening inwards to allow for traditional working shutters.
Ha! I better not upload ALL my scribbles or I might get moved to the 'loony section'....
Mate you know that the front gate, front door and rear door can't align as the good luck will be blown out of the house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Seriously :)
Thanks for that, David... I'm not 100% up to speed with every belief, superstition, spirit requirement and such like. but quickly checking... the house is at an angle to these proposed gates so cannot create an exit freeway!! Access point upstairs is not aligned with anything on the opposite side. Door below is not aligned with access above. kitchen access is at right angles to all the rest. dining room windows (a 4M opening on 2 sides, again not aligned with anything. even the opposite boundary wall pedestrian gate is not lined up with those proposed main gates.Quote:
Originally Posted by David48atTD
So ...I think I am 'OK'....
Thanks for the post though...it's just the sort of thing I would miss.
We have 2 rai of flat land by a rural road in Nongbualamphu. A quiet area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
After many iterations, we still haven't agreed an outline plan that we want to give the architect. Having toyed with two-storeyed ideas, I think maybe I'll not want stairs 20 years from now. So probably a fairly modest single storey with 2 or 3 bedrooms and a relatively large covered verandah to the rear, from where I can sit and watch the trees grow.
The timeline was supposed to be adding some landfill during this dry season and cracking on with construction the next. Things are already running behind plan, so probably filling at the end of this year and building another year on. I'm in no rush.
BTW I'd love to send you a 'green' for kicking off this thread, but I have yet to figure out how to do that. Not even sure that I am graced with that privilege yet.
Good luck with your build. It does seem to be going particularly well so far.
Similar to Thai ideas, the Chinese view of feng shui is that evil spirits travel in straight lines, so they like to put a little wriggle into the driveway and the pathway to ensure that those pesky spirits cannot zoom straight up the drive and into your front door. I'm less clear about Thai beliefs but it is probably best to plan that the gates are offset relative to the house doors and then have your local cultural advisor approve in advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp
Dunno what happened to my reply to this, Norton... I actually answered yesterday but for some reason its not showing up in the thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Yes... a reminder was sent to the builder yesterday and i followed it up with a sketch and refresher instructions too.
Lol... I'm hoping the builder will build in straight lines and not be influenced by any spirit 'callings' I checked and none of our doors or gates line up in this way so...phew!... more by luck than judgement though..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shutree
Great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp