Thread: Britain is the worst place to live in Europe

In the periods I lived in the UK when home from Thailand we had two children and one of them required an operation withing his first year.

Can't fault the NHS in any way at all from those experiences.

Post natal care for the wife involved home visits for 6 months, free vaccinations, free pre natal care, just excellent.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

In the periods I lived in the UK when home from Thailand we had two children and one of them required an operation withing his first year.

Can't fault the NHS in any way at all from those experiences.

Post natal care for the wife involved home visits for 6 months, free vaccinations, free pre natal care, just excellent.

Not sure when you were last here Bob , but I think you might find the rules have changed now for ex pats ,, I seem to remember reading somewhere now that if you live outside the EU for more than 6 months then you no longer will get NHS treatment when you come home . Mabe I got hold of the wrong end of the stick here and I stand to be corrected , mabe someone has more info

I have no problem with such a rule, I don't pay tax there (or anywhere... ), but doubtless the kick in the teeth will be that someone who has never paid tax there would get it.

Anyway, my comment was about the quality and there was no downside to our dealings.

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

I seem to remember reading somewhere now that if you live outside the EU for more than 6 months then you no longer will get NHS treatment when you come home

This is not true.

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Originally Posted by deathstardan

When you have no money and it's all you can afford, what you gonna do?

When you got no money ,,do like we do , grow our own veg and eat them fresh from the garden,, a double whammy here . you get much needed excersise and eat fresh grown veg and salads without the chemicals .
If they stopped paying the fat fukkers all their tax credits and housing benefits in this ( poor off ) ?? Country they would be forced into action like this to survive .
My Mum and Dad were poor to and only basically educated people but even so we were never brought up on a diet of takeaway shit ,

Sorry a very poor argument to excuse the lazy fat fuckkers here , a Country despite its money troubles still doles out billions in various benefits

That's fine and dandy when you have a garden to call your own but what about the inner city kids that haven't even got a school field never mind a vegetable patch at the back of the house...

And regarding your parents, they sound like good role models who tried their best for their child/children. Some kids are not that fortunate though and get scumbag parents whose idea of education is sticking them in front of the TV and letting the Tellytubbies do the teaching. Maybe if they are lucky they might get some sweetcorn on their pizza that evening and that would constitute the day's vitamin intake. This behaviour then goes full-circle...I can see a pattern emerging.

What we need is money spent on improving schools, teachers, education in general. Break the cycle of irresponsibility, teach people to be accountable for their actions and show them how to live healthy, productive lives. Give them a sense of worth and show them that there is more to life than squandering it away.

Don't be too quick to dish out the bad names, it's not always black n' white...

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

I seem to remember reading somewhere now that if you live outside the EU for more than 6 months then you no longer will get NHS treatment when you come home

This is not true.

This link is for pensioners.

Are you a UK state pensioner spending more than 3 months living outside the United Kingdom? : Department of Health - Health care

This is for the rest of us

Are you spending more than 3 months living outside the United Kingdom? : Department of Health - Health care

Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet

adelaide the best

It's a shame the schools are shit there.

Originally Posted by melvbot

Englands like a trip to the dentist, if you havent been for a while you dread it but once you go you remember its actually not as bad as you thought.

thats assuming you're only there for half an hour every 6 months, but if you live in the fucking place it's torture.

Cheers

Here is a link to the source, and some other cities mentioned. Interesting how Osaka placed 50th (bottom of the table) of Asian cities for quality of life. Thought it was supposedly a farily laid-back place as Japanese cities go..

http://www.mercer.com/qualityofliving

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

I seem to remember reading somewhere now that if you live outside the EU for more than 6 months then you no longer will get NHS treatment when you come home

This is not true.

Excuse me ???? I think if you read the link below you will see if your living outside the UK now for longer than 3 months ( not 6 as I thought ) you no longer automatically qualify for NHS treatment .

What is the truth then please ?

Who can receive all NHS treatment free of charge

Some people from abroad can receive all NHS hospital treatment free of charge. If you are entitled to free NHS hospital treatment, your spouse, civil partner and dependent child(ren) will also be able to receive free treatment, but only if they live with you permanently in the UK.
You can receive free NHS hospital treatment if you:-

• have been living legally in the UK for at least 12 months when you seek treatment, and did not come to the UK for private medical treatment. Temporary absences from the UK of up to three months are ignored
• have come to the UK to take up permanent residence, for example, if you are a former UK resident who has returned from abroad, or if you have been granted leave to enter or remain as a spouse
• have come to the UK to work, either as an employee or self-employed person. This does not include people on short business trips
• normally work in the UK, but are temporarily working abroad, have at least 10 years continuous residence in the UK, and have been abroad for less than 5. However, if you are studying abroad you are not entitled to free NHS treatment
• are receiving a UK war disablement pension or war widows’ pension
• are an asylum seeker or have been granted exceptional leave to remain or refugee status. Proof of your immigration status from the Home Office may be required. In England and Scotland, if you're refused asylum, you do not have the right to free treatment if you have temporary admission. However, if you're a failed asylum seeker who was receiving a course of treatment, that course of treatment should continue until it is finished without you being asked to pay for it. In Wales, there are plans to change the rules and you might get free treatment. If you’re asked to pay, get advice about how to challenge the charge
• have been identified as having been trafficked from abroad or are believed to have been trafficked from abroad
• are imprisoned in the UK or detained by UK immigration authorities
• are a UK state pensioner who spends up to six months a year living in another European Economic Area (EEA) state, but are not a resident of that state
• are working in another EEA country, or in Switzerland, but are paying compulsory UK national insurance contributions
• are a student following a course of study which lasts at least six months, or is substantially funded by the UK government.

Belgium is not in the list.

I always thought it was the worst.

Beer and chocolate, beer and chocolate.....

UK is a great place to live if you have money.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

UK is a great place to live if you have money.

.....and a good pair of wellies at the moment!

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Beer and chocolate, beer and chocolate.....

Always thought British beer & chocolate tasted better.

So what we are saying here is that even if you lived in Britain for 40 years and are British you can't go there to get medical treatment, even if, like me you have payed hundreds of thousands of pounds in tax.

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

So what we are saying here is that even if you lived in Britain for 40 years and are British you can't go there to get medical treatment, even if, like me you have payed hundreds of thousands of pounds in tax.

Of course you can, there is no way that the NHS will refuse a Brit passport holder treatment. There will be nobody who would turn you away as they would be afraid of being sued.

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Many countries with socialised health care are the same. Fair enough. In the case of Canada, I read that when they rerturn to their country after a time abroad there is a waiting period of 3 months or something like that. So they need to get private insurance to cover the gap. It's probably to prevent old gaffers from moving to Thailand drinking and shagging girls silly till they get Aids, Liver Cancer (or both) and then trying to run back there for free treatment - when they haven't been paying into the system. Seems fair doesn't it?

Assume the UK is the same..but haven't read the fine print.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

It's probably to prevent old gaffers from moving to Thailand drinking and shagging girls silly till they get Aids, Liver Cancer (or both) and then trying to run back there for free treatment - when they haven't been paying into the system. Seems fair doesn't it?

No, it doesn't seem fair. The old gaffers would have still paid a considerable amount into the system when they were resident in the UK.

In truth, the only people who wouldn't get treated (or presented with a bill for payment) are those dumb enough to shout about not being resident in the UK for x years.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

In truth, the only people who wouldn't get treated (or presented with a bill for payment) are those dumb enough to shout about not being resident in the UK for x years.

It's not always that easy. If you haven't got a valid UK address and are not registered with a GP then no, you not eligible for NHS treatment.