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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
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    The odd part about the Obama administration attempting to block the photos is lack of acknowledgment that many were already out.

    Wondering what it will take for my country's cherished myth of its innocence to die.
    I suppose we'll wait for the reaction from the Muslim world and in particular from Iraq.

    If any reaction. I assume there will be a reaction. How big or small, or severe, I don't know.
    I am sure word is already out in the Muslim world about these atrocities.
    Part of the reason why USA is creating more radical Muslims that the whole world has to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    I am sure word is already out in the Muslim world about these atrocities.
    but images that bear witness to this type of atrocity are exponentially more powerful than the written or spoken word.

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    when are the re-runs of american idol on ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    when are the re-runs of american idol on ?
    Nooners is working on a {re} thread as we speak.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
    Or to rape another man or woman with the aim extracting information.
    maybe they just did it, never mind information

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
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    What a stupid, ignorant and inane post.
    Ignorant? Inane?

    I don't come from a country where it's seen as acceptable practice to put a fluorescent light tube up and mans arse.
    i heard you are scottish squirrel? land of dress wearing men, who have been fucked up the ass by the english for centuries - so you prolly put the tube up your own ass. do you feel tough being a big bully behind your keyboards?? probably have a man dildo up your ass while you are acting so tough - we all know internet bullies are weak little dweebs in real life. get a life you hateful, spiteful, nasty little keyboard tough boy. what's wrong mummy didn't love you, so you want to put shit on everyone you come across on the internet. what a pathetic person you are. i have read so many of your hateful posts on various thread and have developed a strong disliking for you. i suppose you are going to send me another red thing for this, but as if i give a fuck weezle boy.

    ahhhh ...that felt good. goodnight all

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    Bones, you're an idiot. Grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones
    i heard you are scottish squirrel? land of dress wearing men, who have been fucked up the ass by the english for centuries - so you prolly put the tube up your own ass. do you feel tough being a big bully behind your keyboards?? probably have a man dildo up your ass while you are acting so tough - we all know internet bullies are weak little dweebs in real life. get a life you hateful, spiteful, nasty little keyboard tough boy. what's wrong mummy didn't love you, so you want to put shit on everyone you come across on the internet. what a pathetic person you are. i have read so many of your hateful posts on various thread and have developed a strong disliking for you. i suppose you are going to send me another red thing for this, but as if i give a fuck weezle boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
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    At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee. Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube
    Where are the pix depicting what you speak of, I see none of them, I see no Americans fucking anyone, and I see a dude putting some toys in his own ass,, so where do you see the other things??

    He must be pretty agile seeing as how his ankles are cable-tied and he has handcuffs on.

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    Rumsfeld and Bush should be given the same treatment.
    Master war criminals, both of them.

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    ^hardly - more like world heroes!!!!! Great lads!!

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    The Republican Party, upholding family values, truth and decency, taking the moral highground, promoting the clean cut heterosexual American Dream, rallying against the abnormal devients of the liberal left, yet in private encouraging and condoning extreme homosexual sado masochism in the armed forces, there's something very disturbing in the minds and the closets of the right wing methunks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lysander
    Originally Posted by Mustavaclit At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee. Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube
    [QUOTE=Where are the pix depicting what you speak of, I see none of them, I see no Americans fucking anyone, and I see a dude putting some toys or bananas in his own ass,, so where do you see the other things??[/QUOTE]

    I have looked and I still see nothing as is stated as an American soldier apparently doing anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    there's every reason to believe that the photos mentioned in the telegraph article do exist...but i'm not so sure that those shown in the OP are legit.

    they'll eventually be released....and it will be another leg down for the reputation of the US in the world.
    Very observant Ray Carey, you're right , these pics are not with the Telegraph article , there were no accompanying photos. I did post the other link from where the photos came from.

    And not all Americans think this is acceptable, I'd wager a tiny fraction in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
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    The odd part about the Obama administration attempting to block the photos is lack of acknowledgment that many were already out.

    Wondering what it will take for my country's cherished myth of its innocence to die.
    I suppose we'll wait for the reaction from the Muslim world and in particular from Iraq.

    If any reaction. I assume there will be a reaction. How big or small, or severe, I don't know.
    Maybe the US should spill the beans on Arab government torture operations; I'm sure the Egyptian torturers make the Americans look like girl scouts. Not necessary, I suppose, because citizens in Arab countries know what they have to look forward to if their own secret police take them in for "questioning". Sometimes I wonder if they aren't merely disappointed that the Americans get up to the same horrible behavior that they themselves do- not that our people are to excused for sinking to that level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
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    We all know that Americans are poofs anyway and now we have proof of them raping men. Dirty cum swallowing bastards
    What a stupid, ignorant and inane post.
    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    What a stupid, ignorant and inane post.
    Ignorant? Inane?

    I don't come from a country where it's seen as acceptable practice to put a fluorescent light tube up and mans arse. Or to rape another man or woman with the aim extracting information.
    Yes, you're onto us. Those are acceptable practices in America, and we are all gay. The cat is out of the bag, it's fair cop, if only we had had the civilizing influence of more Scottish immigration, especially genteel, refined Glaswegians. As it is you have to torture someone just to find the location of a decent haggis or fried Mars bar anywhere in the States.

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    [quote=blackgang;1068894]
    Quote Originally Posted by lysander
    Originally Posted by Mustavaclit At least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee. Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube
    Quote Originally Posted by Where are the pix depicting what you speak of, I see none of them, I see no Americans fucking anyone, and I see a dude putting some toys or bananas in his own ass,, so where do you see the other things??[/QUOTE

    I have looked and I still see nothing as is stated as an American soldier apparently doing anything
    Some people here seem to live in their own little hate filled fantasy world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post

    Maybe the US should spill the beans on Arab government torture operations; I'm sure the Egyptian torturers make the Americans look like girl scouts.
    Perhaps thats one of the reasons why the US shipped terror "suspects" to places like Egypt to be tortured prior to moving them to Guantanamo Bay.

    But they did give it a nice name, -- extraordinary rendition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsquirrel
    I don't come from a country where it's seen as acceptable practice to put a fluorescent light tube up and mans arse. Or to rape another man or woman with the aim extracting information.
    Is that why you moved? Feeling more liberated in Korea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post

    Maybe the US should spill the beans on Arab government torture operations; I'm sure the Egyptian torturers make the Americans look like girl scouts.
    Perhaps thats one of the reasons why the US shipped terror "suspects" to places like Egypt to be tortured prior to moving them to Guantanamo Bay.

    But they did give it a nice name, -- extraordinary rendition.
    Right, they can hardly spill the beans on Egypt, Syria, or Jordan without implicating themselves- but at this point it is hard to see how it could make the US look worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    there's every reason to believe that the photos mentioned in the telegraph article do exist.
    there's no longer 'every reason'......the general (taguba) mentioned in the telegraph article is now saying he was misquoted.


    On Thursday an article in the Daily Telegraph reported that Taguba, the lead investigator into Abu Ghraib abuse, had seen images Obama wanted suppressed, and supported the president's decision to fight their release. The paper quoted Taguba as saying, "These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency."

    But Taguba says he wasn't talking about the 44 photographs that are the subject of an ongoing ACLU lawsuit that Obama is fighting.

    "The photographs in that lawsuit, I have not seen," Taguba told Salon Friday night. The actual quote in the Telegraph was accurate, Taguba said -- but he was referring to the hundreds of images he reviewed as an investigator of the abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq -- not the photos of abuse that Obama is seeking to suppress.
    Taguba denies he's seen abuse photos suppressed by Obama | Salon News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    Is that why you moved? Feeling more liberated in Korea?
    Do you swallow after you gargle Arab cum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman Mao View Post
    What a load of shite.

    But hey, the indoctrinated simpletons just lap it up.
    The indoctrined zombies are quite obvious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post

    Maybe the US should spill the beans on Arab government torture operations; I'm sure the Egyptian torturers make the Americans look like girl scouts.
    Perhaps thats one of the reasons why the US shipped terror "suspects" to places like Egypt to be tortured prior to moving them to Guantanamo Bay.

    But they did give it a nice name, -- extraordinary rendition.
    Right, they can hardly spill the beans on Egypt, Syria, or Jordan without implicating themselves- but at this point it is hard to see how it could make the US look worse.
    About the only thing that could make the USA look worse is if more proof of these atrocities comes out in graphic pictorial detail.

    As said before, Bush and Rumsfeld who sanctioned these crimes should be the ones on trial as much as the pawns who physically committed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    About the only thing that could make the USA look worse is if more proof of these atrocities comes out in graphic pictorial detail.
    There is ample proof of torture, abuse and murder of detainees, not to mention other human rights abuses. At this point I think everyone should pretty much expect the worst. How the US handles its response will go a long way to determine how lasting, even to the extent of permanent, the damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    As said before, Bush and Rumsfeld who sanctioned these crimes should be the ones on trial as much as the pawns who physically committed them.
    More so. First Cheney.

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