Lady Thatcher to be Honored with State Funeral

**jizzybloke** · 13-07-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain

'Bugger me!

I'm too much of a gentleman to reply to that NR!

**jandajoy** · 13-07-2008, 08:48 PM

All joking apart, I do think it is very possible that this American nation (along with its' allies,) formed in only the last 2-3 hundred years, with it's obsession with capitalism, growth, power, money, wealth and MTV TV has doomed the world.

It's not the commercial structures you've created it's the socially conflictive, aggressive, devisive, rascist and fundamentally abhorrent sub-culture thet threatens the people of the world. Either by corrupting them to join or offending them to regress, you slowly advance.
Advancing, ever forwards, to the destruction of

ART, LOVE, PEACE, COMMUNICATION, and, maybe, friendship.

**DaveRobin** · 13-07-2008, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Last time the UK used what could be considered illegal weapons was world war 2, Mustard gas, last those evil nasty baby eaters used what could be considered illegal weapons was Napalm in Vietnam, therefore proving that all Americans are evil and nasty baby eaters

who enjoy inflicting pain and nasty deformities on civilians.

the paras in the falklands used phosporus grenades to clear trenches. against the geneva convention. they also executed some american mercenaries caught fighting for the argie special forces. however, at goose green battalion strength (600 men) rolled up a regiment of argies (2000 +) across open ground and dug-in positions without air cover. then because the atlantic conveyor had been sunk along with the chinooks that were supposed to carry the paras across the island, the paras then tabbed 50 km across bog at 3C with full kit. water starts to turn to ice at 4C. at the end of the tab they stormed a mountain full of dug-in argies. the only bayonet charge since the 2nd world war. this was just one battalion (2nd). Another battallion also did well.

**EmperorTud** · 13-07-2008, 08:55 PM

She was a necessary evil unfortunately.

**astasinim** · 13-07-2008, 08:58 PM

Lady T was quite simply the greatest post war PM we have had. I am one of "Maggies children", and I can honestly say I never had it so good as when she was in charge. If you could be bothered to get off your arse and graft, and were good at what you did, you got the rewards. Dont even get me started on the miners. That wanker Scargil, lives not too far from me in his palacial manor. The miners round our way were paid far more than your average man. What did they do with the money I ask? Probably piss it up against wall, spend it on cigs and bingo down the miners welfare club. I just wish William Haigh was still leading the Tories instead of that knob Cameron.

**November Rain** · 13-07-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

You know, I don't think I can recall a single PM that has been revered on this forum except for snippets of respect for the Long Cigar smoker. Don't you Brits have any modern heros outside the monarchy?

No. And that's why we find it easy to slag off anyone's Govt, including our own. No reverence earned or deserved. Easy.

**dirtydog** · 13-07-2008, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by DaveRobin

the paras in the falklands used phosporus grenades to clear trenches.

That was only so they could see them, anyway, we don't let facts get in the way of slagging off of the baby eaters

**Boon Mee** · 13-07-2008, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain

No reverence earned or deserved. Easy.

No?
The outcome of the Falklands War gave the UK back a sense of pride that was a bit absent for a long time.

**November Rain** · 13-07-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

Drinkin' again JJ?
Those apologetic morning-after posts start wearing thin after about 4 or 5.
Ask Milkman.

Or you.

Shit. Wrong again.

You don't bother to apologise.

**chinthee** · 13-07-2008, 09:05 PM

^^I doubt they'd call out the Argentinians today.

**CB79** · 13-07-2008, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Not everything in Old Blighty is going 'off the rails'!

Lady Thatcher to be honoured with State funeral, but Palace fears there might not be enough troops to line streets of London.

Margaret Thatcher is to be given the ultimate accolade of a State funeral when she reaches the end of her days – the first British Prime Minister since Winston Churchill to be afforded such an honour.

Too bloody right I say!

Lady Thatcher to be honoured with State funeral but there might not be enough troops to line streets | Mail Online

This country would not be in the state it is in if she were in charge today.

In my opinion like.

**November Rain** · 13-07-2008, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by November Rain

No reverence earned or deserved. Easy.

No?
The outcome of the Falklands War gave the UK back a sense of pride that was a bit absent for a long time.

Falklands?

Sort of like when Clinton bombed Libya to detract from being caught with his pants down. Purely political. Very sadly for those men who died, one of whom, at least, I knew.

**Boon Mee** · 13-07-2008, 09:14 PM

^
Heh...here's just one example of why she was the greatest PM since Chruchill:

BRITAIN AWAKE

"The first duty of any Government is to safeguard its people against external aggression. To guarantee the survival of our way of life.

The question we must now ask ourselves is whether the present Government is fulfilling that duty. It is dismantling our defences at a moment when the strategic threat to Britain and her allies from an expansionist power is graver than at any moment since the end of the last war.

Military men are always warning us that the strategic balance is tilting against NATO and the west.

But the Socialists never listen"

...emphasis mine...

Speech at Kensington Town Hall ("Britain Awake") (The Iron Lady) | Margaret Thatcher Foundation

**ChiangMai noon** · 13-07-2008, 09:14 PM

remind me who led the country into recession.

what was the unemployment figure under thatcher?

**DaveRobin** · 13-07-2008, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

remind me who led the country into recession.

what was the unemployment figure under thatcher?

Labour Doesn't Work - was the phrase coined by satchi and satchi to describe the shit hole britain had become under labour. often cancer can only be cured by devastating treatment and she treated the sick man of europe. can you honestly say english taxpayers should have continued to pay for unefficient drunk taffy miners?

**November Rain** · 13-07-2008, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Heh...here's just one example of why she was the greatest PM since Chruchill:

to Americans. When will it be realised that many of us just don't think that way? We're brought up to question not to idealise.

**Boon Mee** · 13-07-2008, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

1970s, I remember, I remember reading the signs at the airport stating that each person was only allowed to take 25 pounds out of the country, I wondered how the fok my parents would buy my sister and I food with only 100 quid between 4 of us for our holiday, luckily Thomas Cook was as corrupt as the rest of the world and you gave them the dosh and they would give it back to you when you reached your destination.

That's right and if there's any doubt re the approach she took, all one has to do is read this speech she gave regarding the pathetic state of the Industrial Situation when she took office.

**NickA** · 13-07-2008, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

At least you'll find large groups of Americans who have Reagan or Clinton, and especially Kennedy as their heros.

When you compare her to those lot then I suppose Thatcher was pretty good.

Well, she could walk and talk at the same time and probably tie her own shoe laces.

**chinthee** · 13-07-2008, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain

We're brought up to question not to idealise.

To question merely as an academic exercise is useless. To question for the sake of finding alternative solutions, yes, that is noble.

Merely 'questioning' leads Britain to the irrelevant place it occupies today.

**chinthee** · 13-07-2008, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

When you compare her to those lot then I suppose Thatcher was pretty good.

Jealousy and envy in all its forms eh?

**Spin** · 13-07-2008, 09:28 PM

I'm staying out of this discussion as i have no idea whether she was ultimately good or bad for the country. Politics bores the kegs off me

but I'll tell you what, that Tv show called Spitting Image was foking great wasnt it?

**Boon Mee** · 13-07-2008, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

Originally Posted by November Rain

We're brought up to question not to idealise.

To question merely as an academic exercise is useless. To question for the sake of finding alternative solutions, yes, that is noble.

Merely 'questioning' leads Britain to the irrelevant place it occupies today.

"But the Socialists never listen"
-- Lady Thatcher

**NickA** · 13-07-2008, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by chinthee

Jealousy and envy in all its forms eh?

I don't know much about kennedy and I thought Clinton was OK. But Reagan was just a straight forward idiot along the same line as Bush, wasn't he?

**Boon Mee** · 13-07-2008, 09:31 PM

^
No...

**chinthee** · 13-07-2008, 09:32 PM

^^Simply put...No. The competitive tension between the conservatives and liberals in America is what makes it so vibrant. Any party can lose, and irrespective of the outcome, true leaders can emerge from either party. Reagan was an Icon for many millions, just as Clinton was, and in a prior generation, Kennedy, who was the ultimate Icon for many Americans.

I'm sorry Britain lost this tradition, if it ever had it.

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