Thread: Schapelle Corby - Guilty or not?

Originally Posted by ENT

In her case, the Austalian goovermment went to extraordinary lengths to assist her defence, over and above that normally given

do you think so? you just quoted that they cannot do that

so who paid for the two useless barristers you mentioned?

Stupid question.
The barristers were asked to help Corby by the Howard gov. at the time.
Who paid for it?
Go and look it up.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by ENT

In her case, the Austalian goovermment went to extraordinary lengths to assist her defence, over and above that normally given

do you think so? you just quoted that they cannot do that

so who paid for the two useless barristers you mentioned?

Alledgedly pro bono

Originally Posted by ENT

You're the bollocks Swill, you stupid troll.

All drugs decriminalised and regulated would bring the price down of ephedra, opium, cocaine, and all hallucinogens, including marijuana, which are now used by the pharmaceutical industry to manufacture a broad range of medicines.

If natural organic substitutes for the manufactured drugs were available legally, Big Pharma would have to drop their prices to compete with legally grown "home remedies".

There are thousands of herbal remedies that the pharmaceutical industry have copied or derived their products from.
Nearly all medicines owe their origin to naturally occurring compounds in plants.

And what has that got to do with reducing prices of current drugs by legalizing the illegal drug trade ?

The answer's in the post you quoted.

nutty than a fruit cake mate.

Do you think he really believes his own shit or out of pride he keeps digging himself in regardless?

What d'ya reckon then, that big pharma is the good guys and the competition is the bad guys, or something?

Or can't ya read?

I reckon you've beaten this to death and all you've proven is that you're as stubborn as a mule when you're wrong.

I reckon ENT needs to head over to Bali, score some top quality Hydro from Corby then smoke the living fuk out of it.

He may then come back to reality.

Look, I reckon she's innocent of the charge, that's that.

No one's come up with any definitive evidence against her other than the grass found in her unlocked bag.

In Indo that's the end of the story.

That fact doesn't prove anything other than she got done for possession/smuggling, by a totally corrupt government and court system.
She was a convenient scapegoat and most of the crap published about ther and her family is just that, crap.

Under another jurisdiction the case would at least have been subjected to a proper examination of evidence and a judge like the one she had would have been kicked out of the system.

But there you go, that's Indonesia for you.









That's all.

^

Nice, She proven Guilty then. Correct decision game over.

Cheers.

Yes, Guilty as charged.

End of.

Originally Posted by William

I thought about this a lot actually and if I were her legal team I would play up the fact that she is just too fucking stupid to have thought this scheme up and that she was a mere tool in someone else's plan.

And it might work, because apart from Cahill & Smith (Thailand circa 1991), I've never seen a more stupid person.

I think we need to save that one for the younger members of the Bali 9 . Heroin is evil but to hang someone who was an eighteen year old junkie at the time of the crime ........ questionable

Originally Posted by ENT

Look, I reckon she's innocent of the charge, that's that.

Originally Posted by ENT

She was a convenient scapegoat

for who? her brother? the king of Indonesia?

ENT, your posts are disingenuous. Your last major one was basically:

1. No one's come up with any definitive evidence against her other than the grass found in her unlocked bag. SOUNDS LIKE A VERY COMPELLING PIECE OF EVIDENCE BUT AT LEAST YOU ACCEPT SHE HAD A HUGE BAG OF DRUGS IN CUSTOMS

2. That fact doesn't prove anything other than she got done for possession/smuggling. AS THAT WAS WHAT SHE WAS DONE FOR IT SEEMS QUITE AN IMPORTANT FACT TO HAVE PROVEN.

3. By a totally corrupt government and court system. CORRUPT YES, BUT THAT HAS NO BEARING ON THE CASE. SCHORBY COULD HAVE BRIBED VARIOUS PEOPLE TO REDUCE HERE SENTENCE, EVEN ESCAPE JUSTICE AND DEATH, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE THE VERDICT WRONG.

4. She was a convenient scapegoat and most of the crap published about ther and her family is just that, crap. SCAPEGOAT FOR WHAT? SHE WAS CAUGHT RED HANDED AND IS IN PRISON, WITH A LOT OF OTHER DRUG SMUGGLERS. WHO IS SCAPEGOATING HER AND WHY? HOW ABOUT ALL THE OTHER DRUGGIES IN THERE, ARE THEY ALSO SCAPEGOATS?

5. Under another jurisdiction the case would at least have been subjected to a proper examination of evidence and THE EVIDENCE WAS EXAMINED. A BIG BAG WAS FOUND TO CONTAIN A LOT OF DRUGS. EVERYONE AGREED THAT IT WAS A BIG BAG FULL OF DRUGS. THE DEFENCE THOUGHT IT WAS RELEVANT THAT IT WAS NOT INDO, NOBODY ELSE REALLY GAVE A STUFF AS THEY HAD A BIG BAG OF DRUGS. WHETHER HER FINGERPRINTS WERE ON IT OR NOT WAS IRRELEVANT, THEY ONLY NEEDED TO DEMONSTRATE IT WAS HER LUGGAGE PRESENTED AT CUSTOMS FILLED WITH A BIG NAG OF DRUGS. I CANNOT THINK OF ANOTHER JURISDICTION WHERE SUCH A LARGE BAG FULL OF DRUGS WOULD BE CONSIDERED INADMISSIBLE. HOW MUCH WEIGHT THE JUDGE PLACED ON THE EVIDENCE IS NOT KNOWN FOR SURE (MAYBE 10lbs?) BUT THE ATTEMPTS TO QUESTION IT SEEM TO HAVE FALLEN FLAT.

6. a judge like the one she had would have been kicked out of the system. SHE CAME BEFORE A DISTRICT JUDGE AT THE LOCAL COURT, A MAN VERY EXPERIENCED IN DRUG CASES WHO HAD SEEN MANY SUCH CASES FROM THE AIRPORT. A FAIR AND REASONABLE MAN, A CHRISTIAN WHO ATTENDS A PROTESTANT CHURCH IN DENPASAR EVERY SUNDAY. A MAN VESTED WITH A LOT OF LEEWAY IN HOW TO RUN HIS COURT. NO WAY THE SYSTEM WOULD KICK HIM OUT.

Sorry, but your reasoning appears to be that extraneous reasons would render the course of justice an impossible path. She was caught on Customs with a large bag full of drugs in her suitcase, she went down.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Do you think he really believes his own shit or out of pride he keeps digging himself in regardless?

not sure. bit of both.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

for who? her brother? the king of Indonesia?

Just a bit of an update from around the time of Songkran from Kerobokan prison regarding Shapelle Corby.


Recently appointed warden of Kerobokan prison following the riots, Bpk Gusti Ngurah Wiratna claims that he has seen no signs of mental illness in the famous Australian inmate, Schapelle Corby.
“From what I know, when I do a control on the block with female officers, Corby looks calm and able to carry out daily activities as well. From the results of our observation, Corby still performs normal activities such as sports together with other prisoners, ” he said yesterday.
He continued to say that his office has not received any information regarding Corby’s clemency claim.
“The Bali Office of Justice has not heard anything about it,” he said.
Schapelle Corby was arrested in 2004 with 4kg of marijuana in her boogie board bag. She was sentenced to twenty years in prison and still maintains her innocence.
Her sentence has been plagued with rumours and two different doctors have supported her clemency claims on grounds of mental illness.
Head of legal and Human Rights office, Budi Harmanto says his office has also received no word from the President’s office that the claim is being considered.
“A proposal for regular remission from her sentence was sent last Christmas and there is no news about that either,” he explained.
He claims his office has not been contacted by her lawyer or the embassy and know nothing of a pardon for her.
Source:
Berita Bali, Lapas Kerobokan Bantah Corby Alami Gangguan Jiwa

Thursday April 26th 2012
An outspoken member of the Indonesian parliament has urged President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono to reject Schapelle Corby's request for clemency.

The development comes after it was revealed earlier this month that Indonesia's Justice Ministry had recommended that Corby be granted a significant cut in her 20-year sentence on humanitarian grounds.

Indonesia's Supreme Court has also recommended that the 34-year-old, caught in 2004 attempting to smuggle 4.1 kilograms of marijuana into Bali in a bodyboard bag, receive a five-year cut in her sentence.

But Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) member Nasir Jamil has called for Dr Yudhoyono to reject the advice, saying that "Marijuana Queen Corby" deserved a heavy punishment and that she should serve out her full prison term.

"The ministry and the Supreme Court should consider the impacts of the clemency," Mr Jamil said.

"Don't be afraid of denying her a clemency.

"(Because of) the highly dangerous effects of narcotics, making the perpetrators, in this case 'Marijuana Queen Corby', learn their lesson is necessary."

PKS is the leading Islamic party in Indonesia and holds 57 seats in parliament.

It is well known for its anti-pornography stance and favouring heavy penalties for people convicted under Indonesia's harsh narcotics laws.

Mr Jamil also rejected a suggestion two weeks ago by Justice Minister Amir Syamsuddin that Corby's clemency application could be granted in return for Australia releasing Indonesians jailed for people-smuggling offences.

Call for Corby to serve out 20-year term

An Islams conspiracy, no doubt.

I suppose some people might suggest this is little more than populist politiking, an appeal to the masses to show that they hold a hard line on drug offenses and perceived softness to pressures from the west.

But surely, the conspiracy runs deeper than that.

F*#k the war on drugs. F*#k the authorities there, the Muslims, and in the West the Americans, christians, and any other goverments, who-the-hell-ever rants and raves about drugs and makes drugs illegal they do nothing but waste taxpayer money, harm the society at large with their raids, jails, judges, pay-offs, corruption, dirty-money, cartels, laundered money, gargantuan bills to the taxpayer to fund all this cops and robbers shit.

If I wanna put some drugs in my body it ain't their business, (I don't I'm a health freak) but their making it their business brings ruin to everyone concerned, and thanks for the gangs shooting up innocent bystanders with their semi-autos, yeah those bullets come from the greed around an illegal substance, if it weren't illegal then the drugs wouldn't be expensive and then there wouldn't be gangs fighting over turf, killing people.

Might as well make alcohol illegal and tobacco, too. far more harm comes from those two things, far more illness and cost to society, than 'drugs'. But we already tried making alcohol illegal and what did we get from that little experiment: the Mafia. Yeah, thanks for that!

Who loves the war on drugs the most? Cops, judges, jails, jailors, attorneys, people who build and staff the jails, who supply food to the jails; the Mafia, the gangs, the gangsters, mobsters, entire governments (Mexico for example) they love the war on drugs. Governments love the war it keeps the people preoccupied with cops and robbers stuff. Preachers love the war on drugs. Muslim preachers and christian preachers just love that war on drugs (except Pat Robertson who recently came out saying we should legalize drugs).

Self-righteous Muslim a-holes preaching sin and damnation from drugs. Self-righteous Christian war on drug fanatics.

It ain't none of their business if I wanna do drugs.

Put all that money into education and treatment, let the million or so so-called drug criminals out of jail whose 'crime' involved no victims. I'm tired of paying $25,000 a year to keep just one of these guys in jail. Ridiculous! Just consenting adults putting some shit in their bodies. big f*#king deal. Spend the money on education and treatment, just as with alcohol and tobacco.

The war on drugs. What a waste.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by Koojo

Do you think he really believes his own shit or out of pride he keeps digging himself in regardless?

not sure. bit of both.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

for who? her brother? the king of Indonesia?

he seems a little sensitive, poor bENT

Schapelle Corby -...27-04-2012 10:51 AMENTStupid questions, again.

That's because he's not articulate enough to say anything much, so gives reds and makes the odd snide comment.

I actually know exactly what happened on that day in Bali 8 years ago and unfortunately ENT is way of the mark. Inside info so to speak.

A poster touched on the subject of a bribe not being payed and that is exactly where it all went tits up.

The Corby's had done runs before and had corrupt Immigration officers on the pay roll.

The deal was that the bribe was payed before hand and the immigration officials would wave them through.

The bribe was not delivered, went array somewhere and the corrupt tossers decided to stitch her up.


Easy as that. Game over.