Thread: Schapelle Corby - Guilty or not?

Originally Posted by baldrick

^ are you trying to argue that she is not guilty of carrying 4 kgs of hydro through bali airport ?

or trying to argue that she did not get a fair(whatever the fcuk that means ) trial ?

I think he/she/it is arguing both.

Originally Posted by baldrick

^ are you trying to argue that she is not guilty of carrying 4 kgs of hydro through bali airport ?

or trying to argue that she did not get a fair(whatever the fcuk that means ) trial ?

She obviously picked up the bag containing the grass at the baggage carousel and carried it to customs.

That was the only evidence against her.

She also didn't get a fair trial as the judge told her during the trial that he was 75% convinced of her guilt before the trial was over.

He also refused to let her present evidence in her defence.

During the trial he quite happily informed her that in more than 500 drug cases before him, he'd found all defendants guilty.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by baldrick

^ are you trying to argue that she is not guilty of carrying 4 kgs of hydro through bali airport ?

or trying to argue that she did not get a fair(whatever the fcuk that means ) trial ?

She picked up her bag containing the grass at the baggage carousel and carried it to customs.

Fixed that for ya.

How droll.

Originally Posted by ENT

How droll.

So you have proof that she did not pick up her bag containing the grass at the baggage carousel and carry it to customs ?

Correction

Baldrick
Corby was not guilty of carrying 4kg of hydro through Bali airport.
Her brother picked up the bag and carried it to the customs counter.

Originally Posted by brisie

A long term drug addict with bipolar would believe this to be true.

Originally Posted by ENT

Amazing. I think we have an affirmation here.

Originally Posted by ENT

You're making a broad statement there by saying that the Corby family are proven dealers growers and sellers.
Give me some references.

No I'm not. For the third time, have a little read of the latest book detailing the involvement of the father in the drug trade. Growing and dealing Hydro around the joint.

" Sins of the father ". Have a look at that and then get back to us.

No hurry, the Thread will still be floating around.

Originally Posted by ENT

Correction

Baldrick
Corby was not guilty of carrying 4kg of hydro through Bali airport.
Her brother picked up the bag and carried it to the customs counter.

There was talk that her brother was the one importing the drugs and Corby stepped up and took the wrap.

If this is your argument you may well have a point.

What are debating you here ?

Originally Posted by ENT

The grass was slipped into her bag by a baggage handler, either in Brisbane or in Sydney.

Did he sneak it onto the tarmc under his jumper ?

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by ENT

The grass was slipped into her bag by a baggage handler, either in Brisbane or in Sydney.

Did he sneak it onto the tarmc under his jumper ?

I've worked airside.
Not a problem at all.

All the photos show is her bag, full of drugs. Not even Schorby has tried to claim it was not there. These claims that a bit was missing are almost interesting but so what? Did she keep a receipt for the drugs when she purchased them? Come on.

And even Ent now seems to accept this was hydroponically grown and not from Indonesia. Weed in Indonesia comes mostly from Aceh and is smuggled across through Bandung and on to Bali by road. This stuff was from Oz.

It is claimed her brother helped her with her bag. So are we to assume he was the drug smuggler or his sister? Seems her defence were trying to defeat the trafficing / transportation element of the offence by suggesting she never personally carried the bag. Trial must have been a hoot.

The judge did indeed have a perfect record on drugs, but then it would not be tried without evidence of drug possession. Intent is not at issue in trials under the Narcotics Act unless you are charged with one of the conspiracy offences. Get caught with 0.000000000007g of this stuff and that is 4 years minimum tariff, it is a Class I narcotic.

According to all reports so far, after check in, Corby's un-locked bag was in the custody of Quantas staff until it arrived at Bali customs.
The boogy board bag arrived zipped closed, after it had been opened in transit, checked, and the inner bags opened, one re-sealed with tape, then replaced in her boogy board bag and zipped closed again.
So far, no record of the bag in transit has surfaced, until Corby's brother was seen to pick it up and carry it to the customs counter.
Then Coby opened the bag and its contents were exposed.
When asked about the ganja in it, Corby denied all knowledge of it.

From that point on, Indonesian customs and judiciary took the view that this was the only piece of evidence necessary to convict Corby of drug smuggling.

No defence was allowed drug against the charge of smuggling.

The chief of police at the time said that there was insufficient evidence to charge her, but his view was over-ruled.

The information provided by McCauley referred to in" Sins of the Father" book by Duff, was denied by Oz police, calling McCauley's evidence false.

Duffs story is simply speculative story telling for a fee.

Originally Posted by ENT

According to all reports so far, after check in, Corby's un-locked bag was in the custody of Quantas staff until it arrived at Bali customs.
The boogy board bag arrived zipped closed, after it had been opened in transit, checked, and the inner bags opened, one re-sealed with tape, then replaced in her boogy board bag and zipped closed again.
So far, no record of the bag in transit has surfaced, until Corby's brother was seen to pick it up and carry it to the customs counter.
Then Coby opened the bag and its contents were exposed.
When asked about the ganja in it, Corby denied all knowledge of it.

From that point on, Indonesian customs and judiciary took the view that this was the only piece of evidence necessary to convict Corby of drug smuggling.

No defence was allowed drug against the charge of smuggling.

The chief of police at the time said that there was insufficient evidence to charge her, but his view was over-ruled.

The information provided by McCauley referred to in" Sins of the Father" book by Duff, was denied by Oz police, calling McCauley's evidence false.

Duffs story is simply speculative story telling for a fee.

The only evidence needed to support a charge under the Narcotics Law is:

1. An affidavit from a Customs Officer that they had found drugs and that Schorby had presented it or identified it as her bag. (Useful references would be the blue customs form she signed stating she had x number of bags and they did not contain narcotics, which is why I do not tick boxes that I may contravene.)

2. The drugs or an official document stating they were drugs.

And that is it, sorry but that is all Indonesian law needs for a conviction. There is a sound prosecution case for a) importation of a Class I narcotic into a customs area or b) transportation of a Class I narcotic. It is an absolute offence with no component of intent or mental state so the evidence above is all that is needed.

If the chief of police said there was not enough to charge.....well, he is one of the biggest crooks in Bali and I would no more trust his judgement than Schorby on the merits of the case.

The evidence to support a charge of possession was there, but not sufficient to convict her.

Give it up Ent, you nutter.

She's guilty, the court found her guilty, she's paying her dues.

Maybe not guilty in Ent land, but under Indonesian law, very guilty indeed.

The judge in the case has found all drug charge defendants guilty during his career.
He already said that he thought that she was 75% guilty before the trial was completed.
That shows his illegal prejudice, ie. a conflict of interest in the case as a judge.
Small wonder that he disallowed evidence in her defence.

yawn.

Originally Posted by ENT

He already said that he thought that she was 75% guilty before the trial was completed.

Considering the massive bag of mull found in her bag it was a good call on his part.


Your theory that baggage handlers placed the mull in her bag makes............

Oh what the fuk Eh. We've been over this before .

Dream on mate.

I guess it comes down to what you think is the more likely story.

Did a baggage handler somewhere along the way stuff that big bag of marijuana into her boogie board bag, hoping to be able to retrieve somewhere along the way before it showed up on baggage carousal in Bali.

Or did some kids that were well into the drug culture, both in Australia and Bali, having very likely brought in small quantities before, decide that they could make a bit of money off what for them would be a big score?

TH

Originally Posted by ENT

The judge in the case has found all drug charge defendants guilty during his career.
He already said that he thought that she was 75% guilty before the trial was completed.
That shows his illegal prejudice, ie. a conflict of interest in the case as a judge.
Small wonder that he disallowed evidence in her defence.

I don't supposed you've considered that fact that the police/prosection will not send a case to court unless they have nailed on evidence of the crime in question?

Plus, her appeal was confirmed by the Indonesian Supreme Court.

Time to get over your crush I think.