Thread: Russian envoy to Lebanon: Any U.S. missiles fired at Syria will be shot down

so, bsnub: do you think assad is responsible for the recent "gassing" as the mainstream media is reporting?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

so, what do you think, harry?

apparently, the attack happened in a place where the syrian soldiers divided the area into 3 pockets and in 2 pockets, the rebels were evacuated (gave up).

the "gas attack" happened in the third area where the rebels (probably backed by the cia/saudis) are desperate, especially as trump announced that he would like to pull out all troops from syria.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

do you think assad is responsible for the recent "gassing" as the mainstream media is reporting?

No way of knowing for sure but the list of suspects is pretty short and the one thing I know for sure it was not the rebels that used it. That shit ain't flying.

Originally Posted by bsnub

it was not the rebels that used it.

besides the rebels and assad, who could it be, IYO?

Originally Posted by bsnub

the list of suspects is pretty short

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

who could it be, IYO?

Russia or Iran. Either way I do not support the orange cheeto bombing Syria.

Originally Posted by bsnub

one thing I know for sure it was not the rebels that used it.

from the link i previously posted:

Syria war: What we know about Douma 'chemical attack' - BBC News

In March, troops split the region into three pockets - the largest of which was around Douma, home to between 80,000 and 150,000 people. Facing defeat, rebel groups in the other two pockets agreed to be evacuated to northern Syria.


But the group controlling Douma, Jaysh al-Islam, continued to hold out. On Friday, after negotiations with the government stalled, air strikes resumed.

bsnub: you know that the "rebels" are islamists, right? why are you so sure it wasn't them?

Originally Posted by bsnub

one thing I know for sure it was not the rebels that used it.

from the same bbc link:

Syria war: What we know about Douma 'chemical attack' - BBC News

The Syrian government, which has repeatedly denied ever using chemical weapons, accused rebels of "fabricating" the reports in a "failed attempt" to stop the government retaking Douma.

A foreign ministry source told the official Sana news agency: "Every time the Syrian Arab Army advances in its fight against terrorism, claims emerge of chemical weapons use."

With all the imbicile remarks coming out of Trumps mouth, I wonder if he is not secretly manipulating the Stock Market.
I can see his son in law cashing in with the ups and downs going on, on Wallstreet.

Hey Kushi, I'am going to Tweet next morning this crap "............."
Buy some Oil or Military Stocks today.

Hey Kushi, I'am going to Tweet next morning this crap "............."
Buy some Aluminum stocks today.

Hey Kushi, I'am going to Tweet next morning this crap "............."
Buy some Farming stocks today.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

from the link i previously posted:

bsnub: you know that the "rebels" are islamists, right? why are you so sure it wasn't them?

The most advanced gas that any rebel group has used in Syria to date is Chlorine. It would not cause those casualty numbers. The gas used in the attack was Sarin. The only other confirmed Sarin attacks in the past have been by the Syrian government.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The only other confirmed Sarin attacks in the past have been by the Syrian governmen

in Syria, wasn't it Sarin in the Tokyo metro attack by tha Aum cult or is my memory erased by alcobrunch with neighbours?

Originally Posted by raycarey

for those who were wondering how trump would handle a complex international crisis...buckle up.

Complex is an understatement. Assuming Assad gave the nod, which is unlikely to irrational given his certain conditional Russian backing, Trump will screw up worse than his predecessors by believing he can control what happens in Syria; and worse, he won't back down in a face off. Short of regime change, which I reckon even Trump is aware he should seriously not want, it'll be business as usual in a couple of weeks.

Withdrawal from Syria is difficult to daft if you're going to be sucked back in each time the other side commits a crime, esp when you can't identify who actually did what and which sides/factions are the real enemy.

Nothing wrong with a strong man, far better than a vacuum.

Originally Posted by jabir

Short of regime change, which I reckon even Trump is aware he should seriously not want, it'll be business as usual in a couple of weeks.

His new National Security Advisor (John Bolton) is a Bush era neo con and a major war hawk he happens to still think that the Iraq war was a good thing. He has a bigger target in his gun sights;

“I believe since the Syrian civil war broke out nearly seven years ago that the subject of Syria is, sadly, tragic though it might be, is a sideshow in terms of the bigger strategic picture in the Middle East,” Bolton said on Fox in February, using his preferred epithet for the conflict. While many of his ideological fellow travelers have argued that Assad is the primary problem causing Syria’s many conflicts, Bolton instead posited that the dictator of Damascus was at best a tertiary concern, ranking him “a distant third” behind Iran and ISIS in terms threats to the region. “If you want to know where to go to at least resolve the bulk of the problems we face,” he told Fox’s Martha MacCallum, “it’s not getting rid of Assad in Syria. It’s getting rid of the ayatollahs in Tehran.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-b...-is-a-sideshow

Unlikely that things will return to normal anytime soon.

Originally Posted by bsnub

mostly tin foil conspiracy shit or outright Russian propaganda..

You mean the" tin foil conspiracy shit", something like the "mobile laboratory in Iraq" enhanced by the "dossier" from remorseful Tony Blair? And the poor GW had believed it (together with you?)

Originally Posted by bsnub

You would't know a fact if it slapped you in the face.

You mean "slapped in the face" by White Helmets"?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

You mean "slapped in the face" by White Helmets"?

If you are stupid enough to believe anything that Russia says. But then again you are that stupid.

Originally Posted by jabir

a strong man, far better than a vacuum

please come round after the party, the noise of the vacuum is shocking with a hangover, you may bring Baldrick he's a gas

Originally Posted by bsnub

If you are stupid enough to believe anything that Russia says. But then again you are that stupid.

I think anything else (more clever) you can't say... (why not to try something like the clown Boris?)

Originally Posted by Klondyke

I think anything else (more clever) you can't say

I can only be lifted as high as the person I am talking too and in your case that is about two inches off ground level. You are utterly brainwashed and mind controlled by Russian propaganda.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I can only be lifted as high as the person I am talking too and in your case that is about two inches off ground level. You are utterly brainwashed and mind controlled by Russian propaganda.

god, you american loons are in full hurling mode today

Originally Posted by bsnub

The most advanced gas that any rebel group has used in Syria to date is Chlorine. It would not cause those casualty numbers. The gas used in the attack was Sarin. The only other confirmed Sarin attacks in the past have been by the Syrian government.

Reported as a Chlorine/Sarin-type mix.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I can only be lifted as high as the person I am talking too and in your case that is about two inches off ground level.

You're aiming way too high Herr Snubby.

Originally Posted by bsnub

brainwashed and mind controlled by Russian propaganda.

You remind me some who say: "I'd better jump out of window with George Bush than get rescued by dangerous (and lying) Mr. Putin"...

Originally Posted by Neverna

I wonder if the Russians have a submarine in the Med.

Just watching the current sitcom show Beware of the quiet man, and especially that one who walks softly.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You're aiming way too high Herr Snubby.

Exactamundo!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Reported as a Chlorine/Sarin-type mix.

Those white helmet guys are tough cookies, no hazmat suits just a quick splash or water. They really are angels, now or in a few minutes.

Swiss right wing newspaper: Neue Zuercher Zeitung

Die Uno-Mitarbeiter in Syrien können Berichte über einen mutmasslichen Einsatz chemischer Waffen in der Rebellenregion um Duma nicht verifizieren. Nach Angaben der Weltgesundheitsorganisation (WHO) wurden in den vergangenen Tagen in der Region Menschen mit Atembeschwerden behandelt. Ob ihre gesundheitlichen Probleme durch chemische Waffen ausgelöst wurden, könnten die Mitarbeiter vor Ort aber nicht beurteilen, sagte WHO-Sprecherin Fadela Chaib am Dienstag in Genf.

UN workers in Syria cannot verify the reports about chemical weapons in Duma area. As per WHO (World Health Org) there were reports about treating people with breathing problems. However, whether these problems were caused by chemical weapons, this could not be confirmed by the WHO site employees, said the WHO Speaker Fadela Chaib on Tuesday in Genova.

https://www.nzz.ch/international/der...ien-ld.1375885