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    RT just airing live the press conference with Russian Ambassador to UK. He says, no answers have been received, neither on the other spy's death Grushkov, no access to any info...

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    If Novichok was used, Skripal would have died on the spot – Putin as ex-double agent leaves hospital

    "Russian President Vladimir Putin says he was happy to hear that former double agent Sergei Skripal had been discharged from hospital, stressing that if a weapons-grade poison had been used, Skripal would have died on the spot.


    Speaking at a joint press conference with visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Putin said he had heard Skripal had been released from hospital.

    "God give him health, we are very happy," the Russian president said. He added, however, that he doubts a weapons-grade toxin was used to poison Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury, UK, in early March.


    "I think that if, as our British colleagues claim, a weapons-grade poison had been used, that person would be dead on the spot. Combat chemicals are so strong that the person either dies immediately or within seconds, maybe minutes," Putin said.


    He also reiterated Russia's willingness to help the investigation. "We have offered our British partners all the necessary help numerous times, and asked for access to the investigation. There has been no answer so far. Our offer remains on the table," the Russian leader concluded.


    Sergei Skripal, a former Russian-UK double agent who had served a prison term for treason in Russia before moving to the UK, was poisoned in Salisbury on March 4, together with his daughter Yulia. In the immediate aftermath, British Prime Minister Theresa May claimed Russia was "highly likely" responsible because of the alleged origins of the nerve agent supposedly used in the poisoning. The case escalated into a diplomatic scandal, with the UK and its allies expelling dozens of Russian diplomats, and Moscow sending home a similar number in a mirror response.


    The British NHS announced on Friday that Sergei Skripal had been discharged from hospital. No details of his condition or location have been revealed. Weeks earlier, Skripal's daughter Yulia was released in similar secrecy. Neither has been seen since, and their only communication with the outside world has been a statement released by the Metropolitan Police, supposedly on Yulia's behalf, which among other things refused the help which had been offered by the Russian embassy in London.

    'They can refuse our help, but we must be sure they're OK'


    The Skripals are free to turn down the embassy's aid, but they should do so in person, Russian Ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko told a press conference on Friday.


    "For today, nobody saw their pictures, nobody heard their voice, nobody saw whether they're alive or not… we should be sure that the person is alive, he is alright or she is alright, and [if they] say, for example, 'I don't need your services,' it's fine with us," he said.


    Asked by a reporter, Yakovenko said Russia does not consider Skripal a traitor as his sentence had been served. "He was sentenced, he spent six years in prison, he is cleared, he was freed and he decided to go to Britain. He is a free man, he is a Russian citizen as well as a British citizen, and he can do whatever he wishes. I think he settled his problems with the Russian state."


    The ambassador himself only heard of Skripal after the Salisbury incident, he told another reporter.


    "I had never heard of him and we never met him – no relations, no nothing. So when it happened in Salisbury, we started to read about who the person is, what he did in Russia, what he did here… basically, for us he was a new person, and now we know almost everything from the British press, except the evidence," Yakovenko said."

    Comments on the alleged discharge of a Russian citizen by Russian government offices.

    https://www.rt.com/news/427160-novic...ipal-putin-uk/
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    Oh look, yet another Russian fairytale.

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    Oh look Harry is being stupid again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    Oh look Harry is being stupid again.
    No dickhead, Harry is being factual.

    Poor old Putin can't make his mind up what his fucking story is.

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    Is there anyone on TD that believes the Russians did it, other than Harry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh look, yet another Russian fairytale.
    Care to refute the alleged facts in the "fairy tale"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    other than Harry?
    Does he have any other logins here??

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    You have to admit that Russian propaganda machine is pretty good at sowing seeds of disbelief into the minds of fuckwits.

    They make up so many stories, even fans of the Tsar lose track of them.

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    Some even think that the Skripals never have existed...

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    The cats did and the very healthy Guinea Pigs. I saw them in one of the MET investigation secret files and one of them has just given birth to a gaggle. Anybody want some very expensive, health assured pets?

    Damn that's blown my cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They make up so many stories
    By 'they", I presume you mean the UK clique? That's the trouble with lying, one embellishes the story hoping to convince the unbelievers and unfortunately the lie gets twisted back to the liar. As we have seen in this Salisbury dido.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    By 'they", I presume you mean the UK clique?
    No, by "they" I mean the Russian propaganda machine in the previous sentence.

    Are you illiterate?

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    I'm not, but to some it is useful this "clarification", as you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Is there anyone on TD that believes the Russians did it, other than Harry?
    RPeter, HermanZeGerman and snubs, they kind of look up to harry as an intellectual giant

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You have to admit that Russian propaganda machine is pretty good at sowing seeds of disbelief into the minds of fuckwits.
    Your entitled to your opinion, but the fact of the matter remains that the Russian ambassador to London has not been given diplomatic access to the Skripals, and that is clearly in direct contravention of the 1965 Vienna convention i.e. the UK is breaking international law by not granting access.

    Until such time that this happens the UK governments stance on this whole situation is looking shakier all the time, and the Russians can quite legitimately keep raising awkward questions or sowing seeds of disbelief (depending upon your opinion).

    It is also interesting to note that when the situation is reversed the UK government spares no effort to tell everyone how the Russians are not complying with various conventions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You have to admit that Russian propaganda machine is pretty good at sowing seeds of disbelief into the minds of fuckwits.

    They make up so many stories, even fans of the Tsar lose track of them.
    Care to elaborate the stories they have made up? Just curious...

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    ^Perhaps the good 'arry has meant the stories about Ukraine?

    https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3769089

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listerman View Post
    Your entitled to your opinion, but the fact of the matter remains that the Russian ambassador to London has not been given diplomatic access to the Skripals, and that is clearly in direct contravention of the 1965 Vienna convention i.e. the UK is breaking international law by not granting access.
    I don't suppose it's occurred to you that he might not want to meet the people that tried to kill him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    he might not want to meet the people that tried to kill him
    How would he know who that was? Do Russian killers have a special badge, whisper sweet Russian nothings into his ear or all use the same government issued aftershave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    By 'they", I presume you mean the UK clique? That's the trouble with lying, one embellishes the story hoping to convince the unbelievers and unfortunately the lie gets twisted back to the liar. As we have seen in this Salisbury dido.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't suppose it's occurred to you that he might not want to meet the people that tried to kill him?

    If this was the case he surely would like to meet anybody else (of the good people), won't he? And to have series of beautiful pictures how he is leaving the hospital, the daughter awaiting him with flowers, he is looking forward to having a beer with her again in a pub behind the corner, etc.

    So, we will not have at least one picture of him like the one of Alexander Litvinenko on the death bed? Pity that the people around him did not have a smart phone to have more pictures that our 'arry can show us again, time by time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    If Novichok was used, Skripal would have died on the spot – Putin as ex-double agent leaves hospital


    "Russian President Vladimir Putin says he was happy to hear that former double agent Sergei Skripal had been discharged from hospital, stressing that if a weapons-grade poison had been used, Skripal would have died on the spot.


    Speaking at a joint press conference with visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Putin said he had heard Skripal had been released from hospital.

    "God give him health, we are very happy," the Russian president said. He added, however, that he doubts a weapons-grade toxin was used to poison Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury, UK, in early March.


    "I think that if, as our British colleagues claim, a weapons-grade poison had been used, that person would be dead on the spot. Combat chemicals are so strong that the person either dies immediately or within seconds, maybe minutes," Putin said.


    He also reiterated Russia's willingness to help the investigation. "We have offered our British partners all the necessary help numerous times, and asked for access to the investigation. There has been no answer so far. Our offer remains on the table," the Russian leader concluded.


    Sergei Skripal, a former Russian-UK double agent who had served a prison term for treason in Russia before moving to the UK, was poisoned in Salisbury on March 4, together with his daughter Yulia. In the immediate aftermath, British Prime Minister Theresa May claimed Russia was "highly likely" responsible because of the alleged origins of the nerve agent supposedly used in the poisoning. The case escalated into a diplomatic scandal, with the UK and its allies expelling dozens of Russian diplomats, and Moscow sending home a similar number in a mirror response.


    The British NHS announced on Friday that Sergei Skripal had been discharged from hospital. No details of his condition or location have been revealed. Weeks earlier, Skripal's daughter Yulia was released in similar secrecy. Neither has been seen since, and their only communication with the outside world has been a statement released by the Metropolitan Police, supposedly on Yulia's behalf, which among other things refused the help which had been offered by the Russian embassy in London.

    'They can refuse our help, but we must be sure they're OK'


    The Skripals are free to turn down the embassy's aid, but they should do so in person, Russian Ambassador to the UK Alexander Yakovenko told a press conference on Friday.


    "For today, nobody saw their pictures, nobody heard their voice, nobody saw whether they're alive or not… we should be sure that the person is alive, he is alright or she is alright, and [if they] say, for example, 'I don't need your services,' it's fine with us," he said.


    Asked by a reporter, Yakovenko said Russia does not consider Skripal a traitor as his sentence had been served. "He was sentenced, he spent six years in prison, he is cleared, he was freed and he decided to go to Britain. He is a free man, he is a Russian citizen as well as a British citizen, and he can do whatever he wishes. I think he settled his problems with the Russian state."


    The ambassador himself only heard of Skripal after the Salisbury incident, he told another reporter.


    "I had never heard of him and we never met him – no relations, no nothing. So when it happened in Salisbury, we started to read about who the person is, what he did in Russia, what he did here… basically, for us he was a new person, and now we know almost everything from the British press, except the evidence," Yakovenko said."

    Comments on the alleged discharge of a Russian citizen by Russian government offices.

    https://www.rt.com/news/427160-novic...ipal-putin-uk/
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't suppose it's occurred to you that he might not want to meet the people that tried to kill him?
    It did, and the Russian ambassador also noted the same. But that does not change the fact that the Russians are entitled to speak with them under this convention. If only for the Skripals to tell them to rotate on their middle finger.

    Obviously complying with the law in this regard is the last thing the British government is going to do. As it is likely to raise another load of awkward questions, which further challenges Teresa May's narrative to date.

    As before, and until the British government complies with international law, no one knows what the true situation is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listerman View Post
    It did, and the Russian ambassador also noted the same. But that does not change the fact that the Russians are entitled to speak with them under this convention. If only for the Skripals to tell them to rotate on their middle finger.

    Obviously complying with the law in this regard is the last thing the British government is going to do. As it is likely to raise another load of awkward questions, which further challenges Teresa May's narrative to date.

    As before, and until the British government complies with international law, no one knows what the true situation is.
    As far as I know, he's a BRITISH citizen, and she has said she does not want to talk to them.

    If they want to get all pouty about it, I'd suggest they revoke his Russian passport.

    Next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    As far as I know, he's a BRITISH citizen, and she has said she does not want to talk to them.
    And she would not lie to 'arry, would she?

    Pity, that she does not share "with international commmunity" her photo with Skripal (dedicated to her) leaving the hospital...

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