Thread: Huge fire engulfs west London tower block

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I'm not going to post any, of course, but I do feel that these spewers of poison and falsehoods need to be reminded that these tragedies involve real people and not just twisted statistics and xenophobic and psycho-sexual fantasies

Don't disagree in the slightest. It should be compulsory viewing for some.

That being said it probably still would have little effect. Remember that drowned kid washed up on the beach? Some despicable cnuts turned that into a meme.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I'm not going to post any, of course, but I do feel that these spewers of poison and falsehoods need to be reminded that these tragedies involve real people and not just twisted statistics and xenophobic and psycho-sexual fantasies

I agree. My cousin would be capable of providing a complete description and has done so willingly for me. The discussion was informative but not one that could be described in any way as pleasurable. She has seen a lot of awful things that she would rather not have seen. She did her best as a nurse to help those were alive.

Guess Piwinoi wasn't a real person, eh Bob...... Fucking boorish hypocrite.

Maybe Bob has had a conversion, and now as the conscience of the nation his hateful poison on here over a mans death who he did not even know is behind him ?

Be careful with "The Independent"

Not saying it isn't True.

Originally Posted by Norton

killing at least 17 people

Still extremely low. I thought for sure id be a lot higher by now.

Originally Posted by Slick

Be careful with "The Independent"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/380653...fell-tower-5k/

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Originally Posted by DrB0b

Hypocritical, empty, meaningless bilge. What good does your self indulgent sobbing do?

I never said it did any good... nor does your meaningless bile...

but just shows my empathy and respect towards the dead, which with all your supposed intellect, is something you still have yet to learn.

just shows my sincere empathy towards the dead

It shows you giving yourself a big pat on the back for being such a nice guy, though the affect of that is rather undone by your inability to call out odious turds like Xanax for their horrendous opinions.

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

but just shows my sincere empathy towards the dead,

Please learn the meaning of words before you use them.

Empathy is the capacity to understand or feel what another person is experiencing from within the other person's frame of reference, i.e., the capacity to place oneself in another's position.[1] There are many definitions for empathy that encompass a broad range of emotional states. Types of empathy include cognitive empathy, emotional empathy, and somatic empathy.

Dead people are dead and it is not possible to empathise with them.

Originally Posted by boloa

time will tell !!

Let's hope so but I'm a sceptic.

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

but just shows my sincere empathy towards the dead,

Please learn the meaning of words before you use them.

Empathy is the capacity to understand or feel what another person is experiencing from within the other person's frame of reference, i.e., the capacity to place oneself in another's position.[1] There are many definitions for empathy that encompass a broad range of emotional states. Types of empathy include cognitive empathy, emotional empathy, and somatic empathy.

Dead people are dead and it is not possible to empathise with them.

When cutting and pasting from Wikipedia, it's usually a good idea to remove the references to footnotes, otherwise you might look like an ignorant Welsh bellend who has to cut and paste from Wikipedia, and you wouldn't want that, would you.

Originally Posted by Passing Through

When cutting and pasting from Wikipedia, it's usually a good idea to remove the references to footnotes, otherwise you might look like an ignorant Welsh bellend who has to cut and paste from Wikipedia, and you wouldn't want that, would you.

I had no desire to hide the fact that the quote is from Wikipedia. I just wanted to tell people what empathy was and to that end I succeeded.

Now, any other words you want me to explain to you ?

Could you please do so without putting a space prior to every question mark?

Anything I'd like copied from Wikipedia? No, I'm fine at the moment, thanks. But if I do, I'll be sure to get in touch.

Morning shift mods will be busy cleaning up the OCD posts again today.

Originally Posted by Norton

Morning shift mods will be busy cleaning up the OCD posts again today.

I don't particularly mind if mine are binned but I kinda hope xanax's are left to stand as a cautionary tale of just what being a sad, ignorant and bigoted, hateful old cnut can do to you.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Could you please do so without putting a space prior to every question mark?

No, it is part of my personal writing style. I am not one of the herd.

Originally Posted by Passing Through

It shows you giving yourself a big pat on the back for being such a nice guy, though the affect of that is rather undone by your inability to call out odious turds like Xanax for their horrendous opinions.

Why should I call Xanax out? I agree with him (in the main) and his view to curb excessive immigration... I can hold that opinion without wishing them (the immigrants) any harm...

Yes, I felt sorry for them, empathy ya know?... fark kin hell, pedantic brothers unite...

How does feeling sorry for innocent people being burned to death, make me a 'nice guy'? I would have thought 99.9% of humans on earth would feel EMPATHY for the poor victims, no?

Originally Posted by NZdick1983

pedantic brothers unite...

Some of us, only a very few, like precision. We only tolerate the sloppy.

She may be a virtue signalling librard but I think she's right about the numbers

So why are the numbers being down played?

- embarrassing for council that most of units illegally sub let

- embarrassing that many flats had 8-10 people

- fear that council officials corruption will be exposed

- worry about riots

- government embarrassed that the building likely contains hundreds of undocumented illegal migrants

??????




Lily Allen's Newsnight appearance cancelled after controversial London tower fire allegations


BY RIANNE HOUGHTON
16 JUNE 2017
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Lily Allen was pulled from tonight's (June 15) Newsnight panel shortly after the singer accused the media of 'downplaying' the death toll of the Grenfell Tower tragedy.

Announcing the news on Twitter, Lily told her followers: "I'm sad to say @BBCNewsnight just cancelled me for tonight's show. They have someone from the council coming on instead."



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The cancellation comes after Lily appeared on Channel 4 News and said that the number of dead following the fire is much higher than the official figure being reported.

Speaking to Jon Snow, Lily said that the goverment is trying to 'micro-manage' people's grief. "I have never in my life seen an event like this where the death count has been downplayed by mainstream media," she said.

"Seventeen? I'm sorry but I'm hearing from people that the figure is much closer to 150, and that many of those people are children.


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"Those are off the record numbers I've been given from policemen and from firemen," she added.

Lily has since expanded on her comments, arguing on Twitter that families are suffering and need to be able to grieve for the loss of their friends and loved ones.

In a recent post she explained why she was "politicizing" the incident, saying that "the country is not measuring up well" in the way it treats its vulnerable citizens.


Although the most recent count has 17 deaths confirmed by police, law enforcement officials on the scene have cautioned that the final death toll is likely to rise in the hours and days ahead.

Digital Spy has reached out to the BBC for comment on why Lily's Newsnight appearance was cancelled.

The Met Police has set up an emergency number for anyone concerned about friends or family. Contact the Casualty Bureau on 0800 0961 233 or 0207 158 0197.

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Originally Posted by NZdick1983

^ What can I say.. I'm a vanilla -non-opinionated bigoted, sloppy, 'nice guy' (vomit)..

My "bestest friend in all the world", Can123, told me that anybody on this forum who had lots of cabbages was a knobhead. It seems he was right. He was too good for this place.