Thread: What's so bad about TEFLing?

Originally Posted by DrAndy

was it a female, with scanty underwear?

Sounds better and better...

I think there's been a lot of bollocks written in this thread.

Only DJ Pat and myself seem to know the truth.

The only TEFLers who break 40K a month will scarcely see daylight, let alone the outside world.

If they are legal then they are chained to their shitty schools from 7.30 am till 5pm (not to mention all the other crap they have to do outside of those hours like marking and meeting the parents etc).

If they aren't legal then they're to be found charging all over the city from language school sweat shop to language school sweat shop for their 300B an hour.

The teachers I know who break 40K have to pack in some hefty after school hours in their private lessons to make that, while we gainfully employed sexpats are relaxing in the bars and shagging their "Tee Raks".

Originally Posted by Professorfart

Only DJ Pat and myself seem to know the truth.

If that did not set alarm bells ringing in your own warped reality - nothing will.

I must admit that it did, however although he is a prat, he's pretty spot on about expat oddities.

I'm bang on right here though.

^ he may have some insights to a segment of expats, but is incapable of realizing that "expats" in Thailand are far more than TEFLers eeking out a living on the fringes of society.

Originally Posted by Professorfart

he's pretty spot on about expat oddities.

No he is not.

Seems like he touches a few nerves around here...

Originally Posted by Professorfart

Seems like he touches a few nerves around here...

Not at all. But if you value the opinions of a cheat and a liar, its up to you.

I don't particularly "value" anyone's opinion, least of all on internet forums.

However as he's never lied to me or cheated me, I have nowt against the bloke and agree with his comments made herein.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

But if you value the opinions of a cheat and a liar

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why do you call poor Pat those things?

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by nidhogg

But if you value the opinions of a cheat and a liar

eeek

why do you call poor Pat those things?

Uh, because they accurately fit some one who boast about having done a runner from several restaurant during his time in Thailand?

Originally Posted by Professorfart

I think there's been a lot of bollocks written in this thread.

Only DJ Pat and myself seem to know the truth.

The only TEFLers who break 40K a month will scarcely see daylight, let alone the outside world.

If they are legal then they are chained to their shitty schools from 7.30 am till 5pm (not to mention all the other crap they have to do outside of those hours like marking and meeting the parents etc).

If they aren't legal then they're to be found charging all over the city from language school sweat shop to language school sweat shop for their 300B an hour.

The teachers I know who break 40K have to pack in some hefty after school hours in their private lessons to make that, while we gainfully employed sexpats are relaxing in the bars and shagging their "Tee Raks".

You're right on two points for me - I made well over 40K a month and I was legal. The rest never applied to me.

Excluding qualified PGCE teachers and those young folk working assignments in a structured gap year or even less motivated, informal gappers looking to replenish travelling money , most English teachers in Thailand are simply doing so as a means of remaining in circumstances not otherwise available to them. A fraction are retirees filling in their time and augmenting a pension but in truth the work ethic is perhaps the greater motivator for them.
Given the pittance they earn, in the main, it is therefore reasonable to conclude that most other teflers are here simply because of the attractions, cheap sex and a low cost of living permitting their vice, and are more than likely to be talentless, shiftless wasters who have no future in their own countries where regular heterosexual activity is probably not a realistic option - many tefling chaps all seem to have something wrong with them and are I should imagine quite unappealing to decent, attractive white women.
There is of course another category of tefler, the predatory sex monster, who is simply here for the classroom pickings not available to his ilk back in the West. Money is not such a priority in his case and he generally will get by happily on a shoestring.
I think that just about sums up tefling in Thailand, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by Professorfart

I think there's been a lot of bollocks written in this thread.

Only DJ Pat and myself seem to know the truth.

The only TEFLers who break 40K a month will scarcely see daylight, let alone the outside world.

If they are legal then they are chained to their shitty schools from 7.30 am till 5pm (not to mention all the other crap they have to do outside of those hours like marking and meeting the parents etc).

If they aren't legal then they're to be found charging all over the city from language school sweat shop to language school sweat shop for their 300B an hour.

The teachers I know who break 40K have to pack in some hefty after school hours in their private lessons to make that, while we gainfully employed sexpats are relaxing in the bars and shagging their "Tee Raks".

I would say that you may be right for many but not all. It depends what schools you work for. I know that the crappy government schools tend to pay the least. I avoided these. I was not overworked (19 teaching hours a week), had to be there from 8am - 4pm. That was for 50,000. Then with a few privates added in I made up to 80,000 a month. Many of the teachers That I worked with and socialised with were with degree and sometimes tefl/celta.

Originally Posted by thegent

Excluding qualified PGCE teachers and those young folk working assignments in a structured gap year or even less motivated, informal gappers looking to replenish travelling money , most English teachers in Thailand are simply doing so as a means of remaining in circumstances not otherwise available to them. A fraction are retirees filling in their time and augmenting a pension but in truth the work ethic is perhaps the greater motivator for them.
Given the pittance they earn, in the main, it is therefore reasonable to conclude that most other teflers are here simply because of the attractions, cheap sex and a low cost of living permitting their vice, and are more than likely to be talentless, shiftless wasters who have no future in their own countries where regular heterosexual activity is probably not a realistic option - many tefling chaps all seem to have something wrong with them and are I should imagine quite unappealing to decent, attractive white women.
There is of course another category of tefler, the predatory sex monster, who is simply here for the classroom pickings not available to his ilk back in the West. Money is not such a priority in his case and he generally will get by happily on a shoestring.
I think that just about sums up tefling in Thailand, doesn't it?

On the contrary, I rather thought it to be a measured analysis reflecting the truth as opposed to the veneer of respectability some, and presumably yourself, would prefer.

Frankly, I'm not seeking to scale any moral high ground here. How folk wish to get their rocks off is really a matter for them and to spend one's time whoremongering in an alcoholic haze is probably no worse than any other leisure acitivity. My point was that for many male teflers their primary purpose in pursuing ther career was to subsidise their vices in circumstances not otherwise available.

Why would you think I was trolling?

My point was that for many male teflers their primary purpose in pursuing ther career was to subsidise their vices in circumstances not otherwise available.

It's a valid point.

However I have no beef at all with anyone's choice of lifestyle.
Fair play to them I say.
If that's how they want to spend their monthly pay, then fine, but I just wish they'd stop pretending to be something they're not all the time.

I suppose many bullshit about it because of the piss-taking attitude of people like me, but I have pals who take the piss out of my job, but I'm not ashamed of being the privvy cleaner at Hualamphong.

It's not always about a quickie though but the availability of women.

For most of these lads the attraction is that they know they can easily find a nice "live-in" from the bars and when they get fed up with that one (or vice-versa) they can easily move on to the next then have the odd pop when the chance grabs them.

and you think most of them cannot do that in other countries, or even at home?

No! Or at least not have the same choice they have here...

Originally Posted by DrAndy

and you think most of them cannot do that in other countries, or even at home?

Oh Quickhandshandy, surely you can't be that clueless???

Why on earth do you think they are here? For the cuisine, the tropical climate, the shitty wages that earn them no pension rights, the fucking scenery or is it the fact they can shag as much 20 year old poontang as they want?

Honestly, just how dumb do you want to be?

The only fucking these boys get a sniff at back in whichever Godforsaken drear grey, drizzle soaked, ghastly UK suburb they come from is with some fat bellied, peroxide blonde, fugly moose on the piss.

"Actually, Kevin, I'm doing a post grad study course on Aramaic Aryan influences on linguistic patterns among the Suay. What brings you here ?"

" Well, Tristram me old mukka, don't know abaht you but ah'm 'ere for the 3 holer and her sister. Know whatta mean or is you a [at][at][at][at]?"

I suppose your experience more nearly parallels theirs, theGents, so you can understand their plight

so yes, I must be dumb and clueless; my experience is such that I have never had any problems finding attractive women wherever I am in the world, so could not sympathise with their plight

Originally Posted by thegent

the shitty wages

Originally Posted by thegent

or is it the fact they can shag as much 20 year old poontang as they want?

putting those two facts together, I would have thought they would be restricted to 40 year olds