Thais - I have heard it all now

**Rural Surin** · 21-02-2011, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by taxexile

not all thai chinese are cnuts. in fact most of them are not.

I agree. The xenophobia, prejudice and racism displayed on this forum at times is disgraceful.

Quite so! Stereotypical models should be banished from these halls!

.....as long as their cousins "Khmer-Chinese" cvnts are excluded. The definitive cvntish lot.

**chitown** · 21-02-2011, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

not all thai chinese are cnuts. in fact most of them are not.

I never said they all were, but this one is

**Thetyim** · 21-02-2011, 09:57 PM

If this is how she treats her renters when they are regular payers then you know what to expect to happen to your deposit when you leave.

**gmailer** · 21-02-2011, 10:29 PM

All posters seem to be egging on the OP with schemes to evade and avoid this debt. Come on, hiding behind your wife whilst she pleads your case? Be a man and pay this debt with some of your honour intact!

**chitown** · 21-02-2011, 10:41 PM

G, according to Thai law I am not responsible to pay it. My wife is dealing with her since they are both Thai, their will be less of a chance, but not 100%, of a misunderstanding.

**Loy Toy** · 21-02-2011, 10:47 PM

Basically she commissioned the electricians, purchased the replacement parts and should guarantee the repairs unless you gave her a written order to do so.

Again your contract should clearly identify who is responsible for what and I think she is only testing the piss take waters.

I wouldn't get upset with her but would send her a copy of your signed lease contract.

**chitown** · 21-02-2011, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I wouldn't get upset with her but would send her a copy of your signed lease contract.

And a copy of the Thai law that says tenants are only responsible for small repairs ie a torn screen broken window drippy faucet etc.

**Loy Toy** · 21-02-2011, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by chitown

And a copy of the Thai law that says tenants are only responsible for small repairs ie a torn screen broken window drippy faucet etc.

Which should have a threshold of no more then 500 Baht mate.

She is responsible to provide you with a dwelling that is livable and if there is faulty wiring which makes part of the house unlivable the landlord is responsible.

**English Noodles** · 21-02-2011, 11:15 PM

Ask her for 8 days rental money for when the property was uninhabitable.

**the dogcatcher** · 21-02-2011, 11:36 PM

had the same in mallorca.
place is inhabited by ragheads.
landlord whanted money for the water heater and air con and washing machine, so i payed.
yhen left owing 5000 euro in rent.
fuck you

**DJ Pat** · 21-02-2011, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by chitown

"Your Thai, you should side with me."

Like ''we're in this together against the farang''...such crap.

This is the kind of thing that exposes their peasant backgrounds and beliefs. Real rich Chinese Thais wouldn't entertain such an attitude.

**Thormaturge** · 22-02-2011, 01:52 AM

I would go further than some other s here.

Bill her a token amount, say ThB 1,000, for all the work you have paid for yourselves (but not minor repairs of course) and pay a nice lawyer to inform her that this amount will be deducted from the next rental payment.

It isn't enough to be worth arguing over and sends her a message.

**DJ Pat** · 22-02-2011, 02:36 AM

It's the attitude of certain rich Thais that can stink badly, like the underlying thing about having ''big mafia police'' connections.

**dirtydog** · 22-02-2011, 02:53 AM

I've always paid for any upgrades to this building, we got it and we even paid for the electric meter and water meter, I have no problem with that, 6 years at 3,500baht per month and 4 years or more at 6k baht per month, my neighbour pays 25k baht per month for the same building, yeah maybe they will fix his water leaks, maybe not, my land lady is a nasty Korean who I see once per month at most when I goto pay the rent, she came here once many years ago, suits me

**DJ Pat** · 22-02-2011, 03:10 AM

^Still live in the fortress I assume, handy for dining at the Continental

**sabang** · 22-02-2011, 07:46 AM

It not a genetic trait, rather an ingrained attitude to doing business and how it is conducted. But, having lived in Hk for some years, speaking some lingo, rented expensive office spaces & apartments there, having had a HK Chinese wife, and now living here in Thailand I do have some knowledge and experience of doing business with the Chinese.

Basically, the attitude to business is often one of 'mutual exploitation'. Whereas we might say 'he's a good tenant, keep him happy', They might think "He's weak, and seems happy enough- he'll pay up". Of necessity I paint with a broad brush here, but it is generally not good policy to appear too lax, unparticular, or generous when you have a business relationship with a Chinese person- as they may well take that as a signal that you can be taken advantage of with no problems. Courteous poise and alertness is the attitude- oh, and don't take this 'emotional' approach that so many of your countryfolk do, keep it aloof and professional. This heart on the sleeve stuff leaves them cold.

So put your foot down chi- as a good tenant, you are certainly of value to them. My guess is they will cave in- but if they don't, be prepared to back up your words with actions, and walk. The other side to this coin is if things move against their side of the market- eg rents head south, they fully expect you to screw them down too- it is the way the game is played.

**Bobcock** · 22-02-2011, 08:05 AM

My landlord is good as gold but then he is so rich he probably doesn't even know he owns the place, his sister deals with us on his behalf.

They send us presents every year and even pay to change lightbulbs. Everything is done as soon as requested, we just have to advise the building manager.

His helicopter passes our apartment regularly. I've never looked to see if he is waving.....

Don't know if he is Chinese or not....

**Thormaturge** · 22-02-2011, 08:05 AM

^^
I agree totally. This is the ultimate free market economy. No lemon laws, survival of the fittest. The way I read this is that you will be perceived as weak if you pay up and more importantly your rent is likely to increase at the next opportunity if you demonstrate that you can cough up ThB 7,000 without fuss.

Read my suggestion above. You need to make a token display now so that the landlord gets the message that you aren't a cash cow. Also be prepared to move, as said above. Don't be surprised to see an eviction notice for failing to pay this bill. It's another intimidation tactic. If this happens make sure you have a Thai copy of your contract and be prepared to call the police.

Don't take any of this personally, it is just business, and this is how business is conducted here.

**Bettyboo** · 22-02-2011, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

not all thai chinese are cnuts. in fact most of them are not.

No, most are self-centered nightmares; yours sounds like a thoroughly decent individual (a minority, imho...).

Originally Posted by English Noodles

I agree. The xenophobia, prejudice and racism displayed on this forum at times is disgraceful.

I agree with the Northern Monkey to some extent...

But, living in an extremely xenophobioc, prejudiced and racist society might have something to do with our attitudes (I never used to be like this, honest governor...)

**Bobcock** · 22-02-2011, 08:09 AM

Problem with moving is they just retain the deposit and come up with bullshit, I had an awful landlord years ago who was a bare faced liar and sold the property for way over it's value but her nasty side could help but steal 10000THB from us to make a point.

I do know that she was Chinese.

**Bettyboo** · 22-02-2011, 08:11 AM

Good luck, Chi - obviously you can't (ass in must not) pay... but, if the missus has spoken to her already that may well be the end of it - if you like living there, no need to blow the problem up; let it slide... the sneaky chink probably will too...

**chitown** · 22-02-2011, 08:21 AM

I got a good laugh this morning. My wife just spoke with her on the phone and told her that I used to own a lot of rentals in America and that this is not the proper way of doing business.

The landlord must have bedded down with Butters last night. She said this is Thailand, she does not want to here about America and she hates George Bush and America!! No BS at all, the missus will verify every word!!!

**CaptainNemo** · 22-02-2011, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

I got a good laugh this morning. My wife just spoke with her on the phone and told her that I used to own a lot of rentals in America and that this is not the proper way of doing business.

The landlord must have bedded down with Butters last night. She said this is Thailand, she does not want to here about America and she hates George Bush and America!! No BS at all, the missus will verify every word!!!

Offer to get in touch with your Japanese lawyer - Sosuemi, they hate the Japs

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

....what if they run into the same illogical problems elsewhere? The truer remedy - don't rent property in Thailand.

What else are you going to do? Buy?!

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by taxexile

not all thai chinese are cnuts. in fact most of them are not.

I agree. The xenophobia, prejudice and racism displayed on this forum at times is disgraceful.

Absolutely, she should have told her that she's Chi, she should fuck off back to China, land of the Jews of Asia.

**Thormaturge** · 22-02-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

She said this is Thailand, she does not want to here about America.

In America this would be known as "giving you the finger" and the landlord intends doing things the "Thai way"

Start thinking about moving. I am beginning to think the landlord may have an idea there is a good chance of re-letting your property for a much higher rent.

The ThB 7,000 will simply come out of your deposit.

**DrAndy** · 22-02-2011, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

The landlord must have bedded down with Butters last night. She said this is Thailand, she does not want to here about America and she hates George Bush and America!! No BS at all, the missus will verify every word!!!

so she is a sensible woman after all!

who is George Bush?

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