Thread: why is teakdoor infested with islamophobes ???

Originally Posted by Begbie

Phobe means fear, what's the latin for hate ? Might seem more apt.

I don't hate moslems but I do feel sorry for them, trapped by being born into a religion where your personal behaviour is at the whim of the latest fashion wafting in from Saudi Arabia.

Would be nice, but in the fashion sense there can be no cycles or reform or even free thought coming out of Saudi Arabia. Nothing is left to change.

The House of Saud is Islam’s physical, financial, political and spiritual guardian, built on the 18th c alliance between Mohamed Ibn Saud and Abid al-Wahhab who was the founder of Wahabism. Wahabism has since been as it is today Saudi’s official religion, and with the Koran as its constitution.

A bit of trivia from the "We Are Not Making This Up Dept" to demonstrate the fervour with which the House of Saud clings to Wahabism: During his reign, King Fahd appointed Abdullah bin Baz as Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, whereupon the breathtakingly ignorant bin Baz issued a series of fatwas, mostly as fatwas tend to be mundane against the Christians, Jews, and Westerners, but including the one barring Saudi women from driving, and the more notable declaration in 1966 that the world is flat.

He did, however, conspicuously overrule Allah in 1991 by reluctantly issuing a fatwa accepting the presence of non-Muslim troops in Saudi Arabia. But then he made up for that indiscretion immediately after the war by pronouncing increasingly vile fatwas against, yep you guessed, the Christians, Jews, and Westerners.

Originally Posted by hillbilly

If you are married to a Bhuddist Thai wife, ask her what she really thinks about Muslims. Even better ask when the family is gathered around. The responses are surprising.

They call them Kecks. Thai people don't like darkies of any shape, form or description.

Whos is more Islamophobic? TD members or governments tat are afraid to crack the whip on the Mussies living in their country that think they can act like animals cutting off people's noses, committing honor killings etc.

Who is more Islamophobic? Us or news papers that wont post a cartoon of Muhammad or even his name for fear of being assassinated in front of a Starbucks?

Self Imposed Sharia Alert: Cowardly Newspaper Editors Refuse To Publish Cartoon that 'References' Muhammad. :: Political News and commentaries :: Hyscience

It seems the Islamophobic shoe fits on another foot.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Ripley has already fled the West. I agree that she should get out of Dodge, but I expect she would find fault anywhere she ended up. Bitter, hate-filled people like this enjoy the hate, it is their life, and they will take it with them, wherever they go. What about Geneva? That's pretty enlightened.

Dried up old crone. At least Lily or even that other feminazi run offa here who lives in HK posted better stuff than this feble wind-up artist...

Originally Posted by patsycat

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by Ripley

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by Ripley

^^ ^^
OK I agree good points but Keda how is that you know this is not happening?
And maybe that was what the centre would have promoted?

I just don't see how alienating an entire group when a tiny fraction is the problem helps anything.

Don't play the dumb floosie with "maybe" that was what the centre would have promoted...what centre, and does it take a post on TD to persuade a barbaric ideology to turn civilised??

It would also help if you were familiar with the distinction between Muslims and Islam, seeing as you can comfortably analyse an entire group of expats when it suits your purpose.

So you are discounting my opinion on Muslim hate because ex pats aren't flocking to Thailand to get laid ?

expats aren't frenetic with getting visa through any means.. so as to get laid?

C'mon Be honest ... you guys are here to fuck.
Look at threads on this forum.

I only say whore mongers are more apt to be bigots.

Of course, not you though.

I only say whore mongers are more apt to be bigots.

Is that what you really said, or are you now lying to cover your ass? So, the whore mongers were bigots among much else, before, and now they are only "more apt to be bigots."

Would it be equally fair to say that embittered liberated sluts with infested twats are 'more apt' to be twisted with envy that men fcuk everything except them, or that they call men bigots because the last man they had was 'probably' visually challenged, mentally impaired and or in a coma?

Back on topic, I questioned your impertinence in lumping "an entire group" of men as bigoted Cro-magnon, and then chanting in true hypocritical fashion about the wrongs of judging an entire other group. I have asked you to explain, and others have also noted your folly, but you prefer the usual diversion.

Face it, you're the bigot, and as with your type the best defence is to create a diversion by fingering others for therapy. Case in point, we start talking about Muslims, you go off on an envious rant about the evils of men that come here to exploit the poor downtrodden natives, I take the bait, and then you spew more bile because we're supposed to be talking about Muslims.

Or perhaps you are an inveterate hater using pc overtures to seek identity with likeminded inbreds. Could be wrong, but you must admit it's "more apt" for losers to blame others than to examine themselves.

Or, of course, it may be nothing more than a period if you still have those things.

She is rather odd and a feminist (hard core) in a country where she cannot change the way of life in even a 100 years. As i asked - has she ever had a day off from her stupid bellowing at everyone to have a nice sit down meal with people.... and discuss nice things.

I think most of us females here get a bit biased with all your talk of paying for sex, massages etc. But the ones who accept all that and laugh about it are the more accepted.

Horsey has taken, on to her self, to hate all men and what they contribute to a female society. What she sees and what she wants to see are two totally different aspects of your (male) life in Thailand.

It is not all whore bars and skimpy skirts.

I go there because i like the beaches, the food and the smiles. And i go with male friends who whore around, but they look after me all the time. Like body guards.

I think Ripley/horsey should get out of Dodge. If she finds Thailand so horribly disgusting she should leave.
She is doing no good.

Fair comment from a fairer of the fair sex.

Ftr, which may be an education for the man eater, I have been in bars twice this year - with the mrs and visiting friends - and I expect many expats have a similar bar attendance record.

Keep well

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Ripley has already fled the West. I agree that she should get out of Dodge, but I expect she would find fault anywhere she ended up. Bitter, hate-filled people like this enjoy the hate, it is their life, and they will take it with them, wherever they go. What about Geneva? That's pretty enlightened.

Geneva is great!! To live in this wonderful, multicultural city is wonderful. I have been here for 37 years and still find things to see and love. OK, there are bad points - but what city doesn't have those. Getting cold and windy and wet, but the heating has come on. Cat is lying on the radiator as i type.

I do not like bitter people. They can take a flying leap... The way that men can sometimes treat females is an ongoing thing. It happens, it happened to me. But life goes on. I went through 10 years of physical and mental abuse, but i got out of it.

You live life as it comes with it's ups and downs. But to be nasty and yucky and verbally abusive (whether it is face to face or just on a Forum) is not on.

Pisses me off. I have done it, but i was pushed. Not often, though.

That horsey woman puts all us nice female members out on the paddock.

Look at NR, she is the most wonderful person who was here. Down to Eerth.

I miss her.

^^Well, for the record, I don't hate Muslims or Jews. I don't have a lot of time for stupid people, and I am gearing up a pretty fair-sized dislike for Ripley. I do love women. I am married, for twenty years now, to a great one; smart, attractive, independent, a great mother and wife. At this point in my life, I just feel sorrow for people like Ripley - she is kind of a female Ray Carey. Bitter, twisted people who revel in their sadness. As I stated before, and then ignored my own words, not worthy of this much attention.

Originally Posted by Humbert

From the AP:

The Pakistani immigrant who tried to detonate a car bomb on a busy Saturday night in Times Square accepted a life sentence with a smirk Tuesday and warned that Americans can expect more bloodshed at the hands of Muslims.
"Brace yourselves, because the war with Muslims has just begun," 31-year-old Faisal Shahzad told a federal judge. "Consider me the first droplet of the blood that will follow."

Statements like this are not conducive to people having warm and fuzzy feelings toward Islam.

Part of the problem imho is that many Westerners prefer to view people like Shahzad as hijackers of a peaceful ideology, or worse, as misunderstanders of Islam, which doesn't say much about the teaching powers of their perfect god and prophet and books. But part of the reason for this is their dread to consider the implications of being wrong and that he was actually following the doctrines of true Islam.

Also, many apologists have nothing but contempt for the Judeo-Christian society that gave them the freedom to hate it, and will mindlessly walk hand in hand with the enemy of their enemy.

Then, it is easy for non-Muslims that fairly know little about Islam, to conveniently and blindly follow the media/celebrity hype that it is a peaceful religion pushed over the edge by Western aggression. This is what they want to believe, even against the welter of evidence that says otherwise, and especially as noted above if their starting point is hostility towards the West. These people cannot conceive that they may be wrong and that perhaps Islamic terrorists are indeed following the doctrine of Islam as prescribed by the Koran.

For example, Kingwilly just today argued that Muslims do indeed stand up and often to denounce Islamic terrorism, using the aberration of a dozen or 100 or even 1000 Muslims that dare to do that, while others will as routinely dismiss tens of thousands of terrorists as a small and insignificant minority. This should give all reasonable people a clue to the agenda of these types of people.

An experiment: Ask your local apologist why the majority of so-called moderate Muslims do not take to the streets en masse to denounce not just acts of Islamic terror but also other less violent forms of Jihad. Most will tell you it is fear, which when you think about it instantly defeats their own hollow defence of Islam though they will never admit to this. But that's not the point; the point is if they are right it doesn't bode well, but if they are wrong then the implications are far worse.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

No more "Islamophobes" than left wing fringe nutters on this forum.

Ain't that the truth...

Originally Posted by patsycat

Back on subject - no 8 year old should be married off to a 58 year old waiting for her "puberty" which could happen when she is 10 or 11. Sick.

Nine, not 10 or 11. He is not allowed to vaginally penetrate her until her 9th birthday, but even before she reaches that ripe old age the laws of Allah permit him to have other forms of sex with her.

One of the things that puzzles me is not just about Islam, because that is clearly a depraved woman hating ideology indulged by many sick people. But I have venom to spare for the shamefaced treachery of so called liberal, freedom loving, fair minded apologists that duck and dive to avoid unconditionally and irrevocably condemning these sexual abuses and the texts and cancerous ideology that sanction them - without using that as a fraudulent guise to launch a diversionary tirade against Western imperfections.

So, raping children is legal in Islam, both in law and in the eyes of its dysfunctional god. But show the same inbreds a priest that dares to fiddle with kids - against the laws of his land and his god - and you won't see them for the dust of the feeding frenzy.

I think puberty is when she has her first period.

Even so, what sort of man, in his own brain, would marry a 10 year old?

Don't get me onto the fucking Catholics - I have friends who have been abused by those oh so pious priests. Whether it was getting beaten or more. I don't ask.

I am an atheist - Scottish Prod by birth.

Have you ever watched the film "The Magdalena Sisters"?? It's about girls who were pregnant out of wedlock in Ireland. They were sent to, basically, work houses etc.

This went on until the 70's. The girls were basically from farming communities and couldn't read or write. And they were abused by the priests.

It puts a reality on religion. And makes me cry each and every time i watch it.

All i wanted to say is - whatever religion you are, there are ups and downs within those religions. But trying to inflict your religion on someone else is a no no.

So, i shall go out tomorrow with my burqa on, holding my funny beads and the bible.

Why is teakdoor infested with islamaphobes ?
err let me take a wild guess -
the members here are pretty smart,
too clever to fall for , or endorse, a way of life stuck in medieval times.

Originally Posted by patsycat

All i wanted to say is - whatever religion you are, there are ups and downs within those religions.

So Christians, Buddhists etc around the world are stoning people, chopping off hands, commuting honor killings, throwing acid in girl's faces, cutting peoples ears and noses off, marrying 9 year old girls etc?

I think not.

I hope you are truly not calling those sort of things ups and downs.

Originally Posted by mc2

Islamophobia (ie. Islam+phobia, "fear") is prejudice against, or an irrational fear of Islam or Muslims.[1] The term seems to date back to the late 1980s,[2] but came into common usage after the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States to refer to types of political dialogue that appeared prejudicially resistant to pro-Islamic argument.[3] In 1997, the British Runnymede Trust defined Islamophobia as the "dread or hatred of Islam and therefore, to the fear and dislike of all Muslims," stating that it also refers to the practice of discriminating against Muslims by excluding them from the economic, social, and public life of the nation. It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West and is a violent political ideology rather than a religion.[4] Professor Anne Sophie Roald writes that steps were taken toward official acceptance of the term in January 2001 at the "Stockholm International Forum on Combating Intolerance", where Islamophobia was recognized as a form of intolerance alongside Xenophobia and Antisemitism.[5]
A perceived trend of increasing "Islamophobia" during the 2000s has been attributed by some commentators to the September 11 attacks,[6] while others associate it with the rapidly growing Muslims populations in the Western world, especially in Western Europe, due to both immigration and high fertility rate.[7] In May 2002, the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC), a European Union watchdog, released a report entitled "Summary report on Islamophobia in the EU after 11 September 2001", which described an increase in Islamophobia-related incidents in European member states post-9/11.[8] Although the term is widely recognized and used, it has not been without controversy.[9]


Islamophobia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why are Muslims christianophobes?

Don't be ridiculous, posters like mc2 don't respond to awkward questions.

Originally Posted by chitown

Originally Posted by patsycat

All i wanted to say is - whatever religion you are, there are ups and downs within those religions.

So Christians, Buddhists etc around the world are stoning people, chopping off hands, commuting honor killings, throwing acid in girl's faces, cutting peoples ears and noses off, marrying 9 year old girls etc?

I think not.

I hope you are truly not calling those sort of things ups and downs.

The Chinese lead the world in executions, and they aren't Muslims, they are mostly Buddhist. The Buddhist have plenty of blood on their hands, look at what they've done to Muslims in Thaialdn and Burma. They Japanese Buddhist killed a boat load of people just sixty something years ago. The Chinese Buddhist have killed loads. The Cambodian Buddhist killed loads, and tried to kill off all the Cham Muslims there.

Above absurd post confirms all the red rep you have.

Originally Posted by chitown

Above absurd post confirms all the red rep you have.

No, it is a spot on post. That is why you responded in the manner you did. Buddhist are oppressing Muslims, it is happening in Burma, China, Thailand, and Cambodia. If an Iranian or Pakistani who does something bad is considered a Muslim, why can't a Thai, Chinese, Cambodian be considered a Buddhist? Buddhist killed a lot more people in the 20th century then Muslims.

I was going to rationally respond to many posters in this thread, but I came to realize something. There is more hatred and ignorance coming from the people on this forum, than what arises from any Muslim that I have ever met. To be fair, I think religion is the scourge of mankind.

Originally Posted by keda

Don't be ridiculous, posters like mc2 don't respond to awkward questions.

awkward question? ignorant and irrelevant would be how I would have labeled it.

Originally Posted by pickel

There is more hatred and ignorance coming from the people on this forum, than what arises from any Muslim that I have ever met.

couldn't have said it better myself