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    ^Do you really think that another 9/11 style attack would result in reprisal that would turn the Middle East into a vast parking area? I personally very much doubt it. I think our response would be pretty much the same - that is to say pretty much nothing. Hire some more Homeland Security folks away from Burger King, make some more intrusive laws to intrude on the lives of law-abiding folks, make it even more difficult for Americans to travel, while our borders remain porous. And on and on. We don't have the balls to react in the way you would like to think would happen. Sad, but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley
    young wives that are submissive and willing to perform as servants
    You've obviously never had a Thai GF or wife, as that is one of the biggest myths about Thai women.

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    So, if all Americans who said 'bomb them back into the stone age' were divided into groups of say 20, they could carry out.... blah blah blah

    Some geniuses here.

    Hey, what if all the folk who said 'fuck Osama' after 911 were divided into groups of 20. I'd love to have a camera handy.

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    If you are married to a Bhuddist Thai wife, ask her what she really thinks about Muslims. Even better ask when the family is gathered around. The responses are surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
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    ^ yes agree with that, but teakdoor has a unusually high concentration .

    i thought there might be something special that I am not aware of that turns thailand expats, and teakdoor members in particular, into raving mad islamophobes.

    Well you have to remember the pool from where TD users originate,
    and why most expats are here in Twatland...
    Cheap, easy sex with desperate " girls" and/or young wives that are submissive and willing to perform as servants in exchange for funds for their families

    These are not honorable or learned men but instead have constructed their entire lives around procurment of sex. Not really the types that are into self enlightenment or thoughtful pondering. Whore mongers are usually not ones to be engaging in intellectual pursuits .
    I'm sure you know why each individual expat is in Thailand, that goes without saying, but does your respected analysis include the Lefties or only the bigoted Islamophobes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
    the age group of the average TD member must be 40+ or so.
    and as we all know, there is a direct and measurable relationship between age and bigotry.
    one possible explanation.
    The triumph of another idiot that needs everyone to know what he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^Do you really think that another 9/11 style attack would result in reprisal that would turn the Middle East into a vast parking area? I personally very much doubt it. I think our response would be pretty much the same - that is to say pretty much nothing. Hire some more Homeland Security folks away from Burger King, make some more intrusive laws to intrude on the lives of law-abiding folks, make it even more difficult for Americans to travel, while our borders remain porous. And on and on. We don't have the balls to react in the way you would like to think would happen. Sad, but true.
    You may be right and maybe I'm doing a bit of wishful thinking, but America does appear to be moving to the right again. If another really big attack were to be made on mainland USA, it would surely change the game. America has a bit of a history of sitting back until the shit really hits the fan and then they come out firing on all cylinders. You have to really scare them to get the full treatment. I think Japan ended up really regretting that whole Pearl Harbor thing.

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    All islamists are not terrorists, what bothers me is the tepid response to their violence by the so called peaceful majority.

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    from my view point, I'd say that there are an inordinate number of islam and muslim sympathizers.

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    ^^^The America of 1941 was very different than the America of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
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    There are a billion muslims in the world.
    Say 1% are rdical, the figure is actually higher, I would post a link but I don't do that anymore cos everything on the internet is lies.
    OK, say 1% are radical that's 10 million suicide bomber.
    Oh dear!!!!
    So with 10 million divided into groups of say 20, they could carry out 500,000 missions. If each mission killed 3,000 (in round numbers similar to 9/11) they would wipe out 150 million. There goes half of America using only 1% If they could radicalize another 1% there goes the other half of America. Of course this could never actually happen, because one more 9/11 and the entire middle east would be turned into a parking lot in 48 hours. Diplomacy and foreign aid would follow for the greatly decreased population.. America likes to be helpful to those in need...
    I disagree. 911 cost a few thousand lives and a few billion $$, tragic but no big deal; more important was the shock value on the Western psyche.

    What the West needs for it to wake up and what it will get, to the glee of the inbreds that dream of its collapse, is the likes of which will make 911 seem like a picnic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEA Traveler
    from my view point, I'd say that there are an inordinate number of islam and muslim sympathizers.
    Don't mis-label people speaking out against ignorance and bigotry as being muslim sympathizers.

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    The horsemen of the apocalypse keda?

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    ^^^ islamophobe loony alert

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
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    ^ yes agree with that, but teakdoor has a unusually high concentration .

    i thought there might be something special that I am not aware of that turns thailand expats, and teakdoor members in particular, into raving mad islamophobes.

    Well you have to remember the pool from where TD users originate,
    and why most expats are here in Twatland...
    Cheap, easy sex with desperate " girls" and/or young wives that are submissive and willing to perform as servants in exchange for funds for their families

    These are not honorable or learned men but instead have constructed their entire lives around procurment of sex. Not really the types that are into self enlightenment or thoughtful pondering. Whore mongers are usually not ones to be engaging in intellectual pursuits .
    I'm sure you know why each individual expat is in Thailand, that goes without saying, but does your respected analysis include the Lefties or only the bigoted Islamophobes?
    I"m sure my sweeping generalizations don't include you.

    And my unsubstantiated slur on the majority of sex..I mean expats are without any grounding whatsoever..
    Yes legions of middle aged, over weight men flock like lemming.. leap through hoops of immigration humiliation .. just to...,... just to expereince the Thai smile and enchanting culture .

    Come on.
    Please defend your position with something that isn't beyond ridiculous .

    There are a bunch of sexist racist bigots on TD because Thailand is a draw for sexist, racist bigots.

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    ^ OP ^

    Here's an easy way for Muslims to cure the sickness of Islamophobia. They could start by coming out against Muslims that commit terrorism and other violent acts in the name of the dysfunctional, bloodthirsty, mind numbing ideology of Islam, instead of blaming the non-Muslims that suffer as a result of its acts. Part of this would involve learning the subtle difference between the victim and the perpetrator, but that’s possible too.

    Sure they could do that, wouldn't you say? And how about a bit of sincerity, I mean collectively, rather than the queue of misfits that start with a half-hearted condemnation that’s designed to launch a tirade over Western intolerance and injustice.

    They could also denounce terrorism in all of its forms, that would help, and especially so if they also denounce all declarations of intent made by Muslims to replace established laws in civilised Western countries with the depravity of sharia, whether by force or through peaceful means.

    Then they could clarify what they mean when they condemn the killing of innocents, by stating clearly and precisely that Western civilians are innocent people and as innocent than any Muslim, and that all verses or claims in any Muslim holy book or by any representative of Islam that state or are interpreted to mean otherwise, are redundant and repugnant to reason.

    They could get together to agree and teach their community that integration means merging with their non-Muslim hosts, not demanding that their hosts concede to their culture and beliefs, and that coexistence actually means living as equals with non-Muslims as good guests, so that their children may enjoy a better quality of life than the Islamic one they ran away from.

    Mosques, madrassas and other education and community establishments around the world could fearlessly denounce the scourge of violent and peaceful jihad against the infidel, and against Islamic supremacism. As part of this they could work with Western authorities to identify and apprehend Jihadists within Western Muslim communities, both in the West and in their home nations.

    When the 'umma' do these things, ‘bigoted Islamophobes' the world over will be instantly cured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The horsemen of the apocalypse keda?

    Two on ponies ..


    btw love the av...


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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    from my view point, I'd say that there are an inordinate number of islam and muslim sympathizers.
    Don't mis-label people speaking out against ignorance and bigotry as being muslim sympathizers.
    nor you pickel in the mis-labeling of people who speak out against islam/muslims as being ignorant and bigots. it works both ways you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    from my view point, I'd say that there are an inordinate number of islam and muslim sympathizers.
    Don't mis-label people speaking out against ignorance and bigotry as being muslim sympathizers.
    How would you label those that pretend to be liberal whilst defending the most illiberal teachings of Islam and strictures of Sharia?

    I call that ignorance and bigotry; what would you call it on a good day?

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    ^^ ^^
    OK I agree good points but Keda how is that you know this is not happening?
    And maybe that was what the centre would have promoted?

    I just don't see how alienating an entire group when a tiny fraction is the problem helps anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
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    ^ yes agree with that, but teakdoor has a unusually high concentration .

    i thought there might be something special that I am not aware of that turns thailand expats, and teakdoor members in particular, into raving mad islamophobes.

    Well you have to remember the pool from where TD users originate,
    and why most expats are here in Twatland...
    Cheap, easy sex with desperate " girls" and/or young wives that are submissive and willing to perform as servants in exchange for funds for their families

    These are not honorable or learned men but instead have constructed their entire lives around procurment of sex. Not really the types that are into self enlightenment or thoughtful pondering. Whore mongers are usually not ones to be engaging in intellectual pursuits .
    I'm sure you know why each individual expat is in Thailand, that goes without saying, but does your respected analysis include the Lefties or only the bigoted Islamophobes?
    I"m sure my sweeping generalizations don't include you.

    And my unsubstantiated slur on the majority of sex..I mean expats are without any grounding whatsoever..
    Yes legions of middle aged, over weight men flock like lemming.. leap through hoops of immigration humiliation .. just to...,... just to expereince the Thai smile and enchanting culture .

    Come on.
    Please defend your position with something that isn't beyond ridiculous .

    There are a bunch of sexist racist bigots on TD because Thailand is a draw for sexist, racist bigots.
    Oops, you found a way not to answer so let's try again...does your respected (sic) analysis include the Lefties or only the bigoted Islamophobes?

    Or maybe you just hate men, period, or no period!

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    I don't hate Muslims.

    However I think they do not integrate well into our societies in general, and their religion is at loggerheads with our culture and way of life, that the two are not compatible, and that Islam is as dangerous if not more so as was Christianity up until recently. Islam requires our submission. We've known this for 1,300 or so years, and nothing has changed.

    Either Islam will have to moderate itself or reform, neither is likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post


    Well you have to remember the pool from where TD users originate,
    and why most expats are here in Twatland...
    Cheap, easy sex with desperate " girls" and/or young wives that are submissive and willing to perform as servants in exchange for funds for their families

    These are not honorable or learned men but instead have constructed their entire lives around procurment of sex. Not really the types that are into self enlightenment or thoughtful pondering. Whore mongers are usually not ones to be engaging in intellectual pursuits .
    Could you please point me to the submissive ones...I need a laugh.

    So whore mongers are thick eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post
    ^^ ^^
    OK I agree good points but Keda how is that you know this is not happening?
    And maybe that was what the centre would have promoted?

    I just don't see how alienating an entire group when a tiny fraction is the problem helps anything.
    Don't play the dumb floosie with "maybe" that was what the centre would have promoted...what centre, and does it take a post on TD to persuade a barbaric ideology to turn civilised??

    It would also help if you were familiar with the distinction between Muslims and Islam, seeing as you can comfortably analyse an entire group of expats when it suits your purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus View Post
    I don't hate Muslims.

    However I think they do not integrate well into our societies in general, and their religion is at loggerheads with our culture and way of life, that the two are not compatible, and that Islam is as dangerous if not more so as was Christianity up until recently. Islam requires our submission. We've known this for 1,300 or so years, and nothing has changed.

    Either Islam will have to moderate itself or reform, neither is likely.
    Not integrating with the host is part of the ideology.

    I agree with your second point also, Islam cannot moderate itself or positively reform towards accepting civilised mores, since both run counter to the word of their god and therefore constitutes apostasy.

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