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    Wow, a joke thread goes double century.

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    ^^Sorry to bud into this heated debate NR, and JG.

    Quote Originally Posted by MustavaMond View Post
    I have to apologize to P.B., Just because I was confused by a statement doesn't make your argument confusing.

    And thank you, N.R. a very nice compliment . I shall endeavor to keep your good will.
    I've always thought that in order to present a coherent argument , one must first believe in what is argued, two; have a sincere desire to convince others in order to improve the general welfare, and thirdly-most importantly; BE RIGHT !!!


    And Medusa. Huh ? I can't hear you , you're very, very faint , you're fading ...fading ..faded away-you're gone. Relegated to to the room of ignored hateful blather, you and BG


    And Plorf- Pink Piggiest of all



    Also from your " Barbie "source;

    ....Fisher's study of Playboy centerfolds showed that over 50 years men's preferences had moved from voluptuous to more androgenous models who had higher WHR but were thinner.
    Jasienska notes that some non-Western societies do not use the same measurements of female attractiveness. In cultures which value large women, size may be a more important indicator of nutrition and health and therefore fertility, she says.


    Narrow hips are going to lead to difficulty giving birth so The waist /hip ration is considered a genetic marker for ABILITY TO GIVE SUCCESSFUL BIRTH .

    Interestingly , the Barbie model you find so attractive, you claim is the ideal body shape and preferred on a base genetic level ...in real life , would have such a low fat index, she probably would not menstruate and thus be unable to conceive . If she were, she would have to have a cesaerean as a vaginal birth would be impossible, her hips would be too narrow

    None of this offers any clue as to why you find the discussion to NOT wear a bra as extreme radialism.

    Another interesting source on Barbie body types

    :Life Size Barbie: Wellness Resource Center | Vanderbilt University

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    View Barbie

    Our life-size Barbie Doll resides in the Wellness Resource Center. She is built in direct representation to the actual Barbie doll. The purpose of Barbie is to force people to see what an unrealistic image young children (in particular young girls) have as their ideal model. Read some of Barbie's specs below and find out just how UNrealistic she is . . .

    The REAL Barbie . . .
    • would have to crawl to support her top-heavy frame.
    • would only have room for a radius OR an ulna in her arms.
    • would only have room for a tibia OR a fibula in her legs.
    • would only have room for an esophogus OR a trachea in her neck (she could either eat OR breathe . . . we guess she must just breathe)
    • would wear a size 3 children's shoe
    • would have a severly distorted face (like the pictures of aliens), due to the almost triple average size of her head.
    How Tall Would She Be?

    Take your current hip measurement and find out how tall Barbie would have to be . . .
    Hip Head Waist Bust Arms Legs Foot Height 30"25.5"21"40"24"39"3.4"6' 32"27.2"22.5"42.6"25.5"41.5"3.6"6' 5" 34"29"24"45.3"27.2"44.2"3.8"6' 9.5" 36"30.5"25.5"48"29"47"4"7' 2.5" 38"32.3"26.5"50.6"30.5"49.5"4.3"7' 7" 40"34"28"53.3"32"52"4.5"8' 42"35.6"29.5"56"33.6"54.5"4.75"8' 5" 44"37.5"31"58.6"35.2"57.2"5"8' 9" 46"39"32.2"61.3"37"60"5.2"9' 2.5" 48"41"33.6"64"38.5"62.5"5.45"9' 7"
    Wellness Resource Center
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    Station B - Box 6033
    Nashville, TN 37235
    (615) 343-6073
    Yikes, wear a size 3 children's shoe, and have the head of an alien? The whole barbie concept goes along with the whole media image nowadays that you see, of paper thin models gracing the cover of magazines. Did you see how sickly the miss Universe contest looked in Australia. Now that is quite an image to show young girls as someone to look up to..the picture of anorexia imo.



    Bones and just bones in Australian Miss Universe competition | Anorexia Blog

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    ^ Mebbe you should go back to the 60s and Twiggy. Probably jealous coz you're fat.

    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    The only part of that which I cared enough to go further into was my integrity.
    Oh, dear. I never meant for the Teak Door prima donna's image to be tarnished. I will withdraw from the personal issues as I also know what has been said via pm.
    You still diverge from the issue here -- oh, not good enough debate material for you? I think it is because you cannot answer.
    I will also add that I abhor femis because they have made most men lose their sense of etiquette. How many men open doors for women, stand up when a woman comes to the table, escort a woman to her car, etc? Fekin few. It's only good manners. MANNERS. It has nothing to do with sexism, yet the femis berate men for being polite. Mind, in view of the atrocious attitudes of many women these days, I can hardly blame them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ Mebbe you should go back to the 60s and Twiggy. Probably jealous coz you're fat.

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    You're so very wrong on both accounts, Libbie biatch! You can KMA also.
    I don't know what you look like either, so I maybe could say the same thing about..I don't even think you are a woman so how would you know about feminazi's. I'd rather have a little meat on me, than be super skinny. Some people aren't meant to be like that..and if you don't think that girl is anorexic looking, then fix your glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    You still diverge from the issue here -- oh, not good enough debate material for you? I think it is because you cannot answer.
    OK, one more time.

    The quote from you that I was debating the validity of was this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jettie
    Anyone who allows themselves to be down-trodden, whether male or female, will inevitable be so.
    I was only debating this quote, which in my mind is invalid when talking about much of the world. Despite the fact that the thread is about feminists, I was not debating feminism (I have already given my opinion on that) nor my personal life nor anything else. Just that quote. If you wish to throw other things into the ring, that's up to you, but you can't expect me to take them seriously and argue against them.



    Quote Originally Posted by phuketbound
    and if you don't think that girl is anorexic looking, then fix your glasses.
    That I agree with. That girl is scarily thin and should not be promoting the ideals of feminine beauty (particularly to young, impressionable girls). There's healthy & there's skeletal - she is the latter.

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    Go grrrrrrrls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phuketbound View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    Probably jealous coz you're fat.
    You're so very wrong on both accounts,
    ....but, we've seen your photo. We know that you're a bit of a chubber.
    The mental image of you doing Muay Thai has amused me for days now.

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