Thread: Would You and Why?

my post above got delayed due to the fecking shite internet and being dropped off so it's somewhat after the fact..

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

but unlike many other countries here in Thailand it is almost certain that she has a cesarean scar in the largest percentage of mothers,

Are you saying that over 90% of births in Thailand are by CS ?

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

but unlike many other countries here in Thailand it is almost certain that she has a cesarean scar in the largest percentage of mothers,

Are you saying that over 90% of births in Thailand are by CS ?

Erm......that would be 51%.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

I'd be dubious about the honesty and trust issues though..

Mate we all have extra baggage we bring to a marriage in different shapes and sizes.

The true test of devotion and support comes in the most macabre forms and there are no maps and rules set up and when you start the game.

The strong relationships survive and those that don't should not have been started in the first place.

Originally Posted by Spin

I once had a black girlfriend in the uk who had a half caste daughter.

why is it even necessary to mention that she was black or the daughter has half caste?

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Are you saying that over 90% of births in Thailand are by CS ?

actually, WHO figures show that is the case. maybe not has high as 90, but way too high nonetheless.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

but I would suggest that a child is not realistically her past,

custody goes to those with the most money and influence

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

shall we say..

cock

Some good posts on the thread and I thank those who have contributed, some hostile responces were to be expected but I'm suprised so many have totaly misread the OP.

I not once stated that I considered the children 'damaged goods', read the OP again and focus on the points that I have quoted here, I was not asking if you would take on the responsibility of another persons child, I was asking if you would tolerate being used as a security for someone elses child just because you are in a relationship with someone.

It is obvious that this is the case when you see many of these dubious 'family units' cruising the streets, gold shops and shopping malls of Bangkok.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

obviously being used for the financial support they can give to this girl and family.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Would you do it? If so, why? When it's so obvious you are just seen as an 'easy option' to be tolerated because of what financial benifits you can bring

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

but unlike many other countries here in Thailand it is almost certain that she has a cesarean scar in the largest percentage of mothers,

Are you saying that over 90% of births in Thailand are by CS ?

did I? I don't see the percentage as being stated 90% anywhere in that sentence I posted..

largest percentage would be anything from 50% on up in my book and I would stand with that figure.. There is a wide variety of reasons for that, not withstanding the fact that most doctors here don't want to wait for natural child birth they perfer to schedule the birth and a more crude but factual reason is the vanity of maintaining the integrity of the vagina, and finally due to physiology as many Asian women in general are too small too deliver naturally..

By the way these aren't my generalizations as our GYN when my wife was pregnant he also confirmed these lines of thinking as he was very keen to push a cesaren as first plan from the git go but we both rejected that until it was a last opiton..

Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

but unlike many other countries here in Thailand it is almost certain that she has a cesarean scar in the largest percentage of mothers,

Are you saying that over 90% of births in Thailand are by CS ?

Erm......that would be 51%.

yes....yes it is.... from 51% upwards..

Originally Posted by English Noodles

I'm always amazed when out-and-about in Bangkok at the number of foreign men who are cruising about with a Thai slapper and her kid/s. The kid or kids are all Thai, not a hint of farang in them, obviously the slappers kid from a previous 'relationship'.

Why do so many people accept these damaged goods? They are obviously being used for the financial support they can give to this girl and family.

Would you do it? If so, why? When it's so obvious you are just seen as an 'easy option' to be tolerated because of what financial benifits you can bring to there sorry lives.

Discuss.

Thing that crosses my mind is wtf has it got to do with you? Though I'm not in that position, I cannot see why your 'values' should be applied to others. Very childish indeed. And the fact that you think you can glance at someone who you know nothing about and think you understand their situation or them, speaks of stupidity. Not to mention your use of words like 'damaged goods' etc. A little black-and-white world, defined by you, in which others should have the same lifestyle and values you have. Sad.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The strong relationships survive and those that don't should not have been started in the first place.

agree completely and that is the crux of the issue here in my mind.... this is part of the vetting process..Mind you I have dated long term and even considered marrying a lady that had a young boy who really was male starved for attention, I took to this boy as he was handful and kind of reminded me of me in my youth. it wasn't long before I had realized that the real source of much of his issues were due to his mother as at 7 years old he had never even eaten dinner out at a restaurant before as his mother was afraid he would embarrass her, he had never eaten with real flatware before.

he had no socialization skills whatsoever but was really eager to learn. he was getting in fights constantly at school because he was only used to being and individual and couldn't socialize so I suggested she get him into soccer or another related team sport and her answer was, then she would have to get up too early on her day off to take him, the answers were coming hard and fast..

I told her get him registered and I would take him then and she got him registered in flag football, I went out with him and the team coaches who were actually fathers only showed up one week and the next week there was no coach and I ended up coaching the team of kids of other fathers and hardly a parent there. I was not even registered as a coach but here was 12 little boys showed up and dropped off by their parents to play football and no one to coach them??

Practice was 2 weeks and then the first game the original coaches were supposed to be there but no one showed??
I ended up coaching the team to an undefeated season and the star of the team turned out to be the little boy I had brought out there..
He made a huge transition right in front of my eyes (too bad his mother wasn't there to see it).. At first he was another KW it was all about him, "I want the ball! Give it to me!! throw it to me!!! let me run with it!! and very vocal about it too..he was good and fast but obviously there are other players on a TEAM and many as good as he was..

I showed him how to block for another player and he ended up knocking a boy right on his tush with a textbook block and the other boy ran for a touchdown and he was more excited about that than any time he scored previously, he couldn't stop talking about it...and his teammates appreciated it too..

But I think you can see that with his mothers attitude this was going to go the wrong way and it did. Shame for the boy, me too as we really got along great and he went out to dinner with us many times and was never anything close to the nightmare she painted him out to be..

In the end my revenge for her breaking it off without reason (though the real reasons are obvious to me) was that because I had been there as coach my picture is there every time they look at his team pictures that I purchased for his keeping, I really felt for the boy though as he really became attached to me and was turning into a right gentleman it is hard to be seen as the bad guy when you know it wasn't your fault.. the redemption in my mind but still not good was that I'm sure he understood better than I that I wasn't the bad guy in the end..

now I understand his sheer aggravation at his mother and why he was always so confrontational with her as she had told me when we first began to date that no matter how much she loved me she was not going to date me for than a year.....huh?? of course no way I believed that as who could turn off their feelings like that? but that's exactly what happened so this poor boy must have been attaching himself to a new 'father' every year and being torn from the ones he bonded with, very sad in deed he's the next Ted Bundy in the making.. by this time probably already a statistic but I sincerely hope not..

Originally Posted by FlyFree

And the fact that you think you can glance at someone who you know nothing about and think you understand their situation or them, speaks of stupidity.

consider how many people here are completely judgmental based just on posts made without the first clue of another persons true character nor their personal life's circumstances and unfortunately it is very believable..if not puerile, shameful and pathetic.. especially when the pack dog mentality is applied..

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Originally Posted by Loy Toy

used to being and individual and couldn't socialize so I suggested she get him into soccer or another related team sport and her answer was, then she would have to get up too early on her day off to take him, the answers were coming hard and fast..

I told her get him registered and I would take him then and she got him registered in flag football, I went out with him and the team coaches who were actually fathers only showed up one week and the next week there was no coach and I ended up coaching the team of kids of other fathers and hardly a parent there. I was not even registered as a coach but here was 12 little boys showed up and dropped off by their parents to play football and no one to coach them??

Practice was 2 weeks and then the first game the original coaches were supposed to be there but no one showed??
I ended up coaching the team to an undefeated season and the star of the team turned out to be the little boy I had brought out there..
He made a huge transition right in front of my eyes (too bad his mother wasn't there to see it).. At first he was another KW it was all about him, "I want the ball! Give it to me!! throw it to me!!! let me run with it!! and very vocal about it too..he was good and fast but obviously there are other players on a TEAM and many as good as he was..

I showed him how to block for another player and he ended up knocking a boy right on his tush with a textbook block and the other boy ran for a touchdown and he was more excited about that than any time he scored previously, he couldn't stop talking about it...and his teammates appreciated it too..

WOW!

you should make a movie out of it!

Hollywood will be beating your doors down, oh hang on. That story has already been done!

Originally Posted by kingwilly

why is it even necessary to mention that she was black or the daughter has half caste?

You fucking idiot. Go back and read the op. Put your brain into gear and come back here and try and spout something sensible. Just for once, eh?

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Originally Posted by drivingforce

manipulative

Originally Posted by Spin

Yes, I could be construed as that.

you could?? I'll remember that if we ever meet...

hehehe...typo.....I just edited that post to show what I intended...."It" and opposed to "I".

Originally Posted by Spin

You fucking idiot. Go back and read the op. Put your brain into gear and come back here and try and spout something sensible. Just for once, eh?

you're the fuckin idiot spin. do you talk about the damn niggers in the fields or what ?

Spin.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

the slappers kid from a previous 'relationship'.

this op suggests to me that he is asking about accepting a woman with a child from a previous relationship, not that you dated a Black girl or not,

and the OP is also not asking if you could accept a half caste child.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

this op suggests to me that he is asking about accepting a woman with a child from a previous relationship, not that you dated a Black girl or not,

Look, If I want to give background on a story I will. Now fuck off.

Originally Posted by Spin

Look, If I want to give background on a story I will. Now fuck off.

Was your pet nicname for her, Black Betty or just Biatch ?

^ Neither. I adressed her by her first name. cock.

surprising.

did you address the kid as 'Boy'?