Thread: Why Is it Wrong ?

If you cast your little mind back to pre-Mugabe Zimbabwe, it was once considered the cradle of African agriculture, but as Mugabe removed the white farmers and replaced them with ignorant chimps they now have to import food to avoid starvation.

You don't need mutant crops, simply responsible governments.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

If you cast your little mind back to pre-Mugabe Zimbabwe, it was once considered the cradle of African agriculture, but as Mugabe removed the white farmers and replaced them with ignorant chimps they now have to import food to avoid starvation.

You don't need mutant crops, simply responsible governments.

Ahh yes Harry you mean like China who have the one Child one family, who are now preparing for the future with their ever increasing population by spending hundreds of millions of Dollars on GM research and food production , China who rose from Starvation and are now the Economic power house of the World , (ask Obama) are you saying they have got it all wrong ?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

I say again I was not aware that Monsanto was making hundreds of Millions from the Chinese Govt helping them with their GM crop growing and research into their future food production to feed the ever growing population

Population projection for China.

United Nations, 2010 est.:[7]
2020: 1,387,792,000
2030: 1,393,076,000
2040: 1,360,906,000
2050: 1,295,604,000
2060: 1,211,538,000
2070: 1,125,903,000
2080: 1,048,132,000
2090: 984,547,000
2100: 941,042,000


What are they going to do with all that excess frankenfood Pi?

BTW Harry Pre Mugabe was called Rhodesia and they Import very little food its given to them by The UN food aid and without it upwards of two million would starve to death , first thing Mugabe did was nationalize everything And drive out all of the rich people you appear to despise so much .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

BTW Harry Pre Mugabe was called Rhodesia and they Import very little food its given to them by The UN food aid and without it upwards of two million would starve to death , first thing Mugabe did was nationalize everything And drive out all of the rich people you appear to despise so much .

You are dodging the point obviously, becausse the point completely shoots down your uh..position..such as it is.
Rhodesia exported food.
Zimbabwe is starving and surviving on handouts.

So do they need GM food or good government?

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by piwanoi

I say again I was not aware that Monsanto was making hundreds of Millions from the Chinese Govt helping them with their GM crop growing and research into their future food production to feed the ever growing population

Population projection for China.

United Nations, 2010 est.:[7]
2020: 1,387,792,000
2030: 1,393,076,000
2040: 1,360,906,000
2050: 1,295,604,000
2060: 1,211,538,000
2070: 1,125,903,000
2080: 1,048,132,000
2090: 984,547,000
2100: 941,042,000


What are they going to do with all that excess frankenfood Pi?

Have you any idea how many millions of Tonnes of food stuffs China has to Import every year?, with GM food production it may well become self sufficient and even export some too, Clever people these Chinese and they ain't spending all that dough on research and GM crop growing for a laugh, here is a rough breakdown on how much they have to import every year , the worlds population is growing at 80 million a year ,if Countrys do not prepare like China are doing they may finish up like Zimbabwe and North Korea who knows Satisfying the growing appetites of humans and animals - Business - China Daily Asia

Originally Posted by Necron99

You are dodging the point obviously,

piwanoi would NEVER do that ....................

then cut it Dear Henry , then cut it .

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by piwanoi

BTW Harry Pre Mugabe was called Rhodesia and they Import very little food its given to them by The UN food aid and without it upwards of two million would starve to death , first thing Mugabe did was nationalize everything And drive out all of the rich people you appear to despise so much .

You are dodging the point obviously, becausse the point completely shoots down your uh..position..such as it is.
Rhodesia exported food.
Zimbabwe is starving and surviving on handouts.

So do they need GM food or good government?

short term GM food like they are getting now from the UN food aid programme mainly supplied by America ,long term A white Government like they had before .

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by piwanoi

I say again I was not aware that Monsanto was making hundreds of Millions from the Chinese Govt helping them with their GM crop growing and research into their future food production to feed the ever growing population

Population projection for China.

United Nations, 2010 est.:[7]
2020: 1,387,792,000
2030: 1,393,076,000
2040: 1,360,906,000
2050: 1,295,604,000
2060: 1,211,538,000
2070: 1,125,903,000
2080: 1,048,132,000
2090: 984,547,000
2100: 941,042,000


What are they going to do with all that excess frankenfood Pi?

These figures are not projections but actual figures from China ,the population is still growing China 'officially' grows by 46 million people in 10 years | CNN Travel

^ Yes, and then because of the one child policy and aging population it will steadily decline.
The current rise is shown in the table.

Originally Posted by Necron99

^ Yes, and then because of the one child policy and aging population it will steadily decline.
The current rise is shown in the table.

And of course you have solid evidence that the one Child per family will still be in place in 10 years from now ?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

BTW Harry Pre Mugabe was called Rhodesia and they Import very little food its given to them by The UN food aid and without it upwards of two million would starve to death , first thing Mugabe did was nationalize everything And drive out all of the rich people you appear to despise so much .

You really are a fucking idiot!

Washington Post, 2005.

"Once known as the breadbasket of southern Africa for it bounteous exports of corn and other staples, Zimbabwe has failed to produce enough food for its own population since the often violent land seizures began in 2000."

^^ Sorry Necron but the projections have just been blown completely out of the water BBC News - China reforms: One-child policy to be relaxed

^ no more than you have solid evidence plague, pestilence or war won't wipe out half the population in the next 40.
We are due a good pandemic.

And lest you think China is in it for the good of mankind....

January 25, 2014

China took advantage of falling grain prices last month to lay in a huge supply. The Middle Kingdom imported 820,968 metric tons of corn and corn-based animal feed. Most of it came from the American Midwest.

But somewhere between Decatur and Shanghai, trouble arose. In recent weeks, Chinese inspectors have sent back roughly 600,000 tons of U.S. grain, saying it flunked their quality-control standards. By rejecting such a vast amount of corn, China has roiled the marketplace and shattered trade relations.

China says the problem is genetically modified crops.

600,000 tons, that's a lot of fucked frankencorn....

Piwanoi will remember this thread when he's having his first batch of chemo for the intestinal cancer caused by eating mutant food.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

BTW Harry Pre Mugabe was called Rhodesia and they Import very little food its given to them by The UN food aid and without it upwards of two million would starve to death , first thing Mugabe did was nationalize everything And drive out all of the rich people you appear to despise so much .

You really are a fucking idiot!

Washington Post, 2005.

"Once known as the breadbasket of southern Africa for it bounteous exports of corn and other staples, Zimbabwe has failed to produce enough food for its own population since the often violent land seizures began in 2000."

Under Ian Smith it was known as Rhodesia (the bread basket of Africa) under Mugabe it was known as Zimbabwe ,the rest is history , just WTF are you on about

Originally Posted by Necron99

^ no more than you have solid evidence plague, pestilence or war won't wipe out half the population in the next 40.
We are due a good pandemic.

"Stretching" it a bit now ain't we now

Originally Posted by piwanoi

So just what are you trying to say ,that the growing of GM crops should be outlawed and and further research by any Company on GM food production be ceased forever?

Have you read Frankenstein? I suggest you read or re-read it and understand the point that Mary Shelley was making. It makes as much sense today as it did in the early 1800's. It may also improve your vocabulary considerably.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And lest you think China is in it for the good of mankind....

January 25, 2014

China took advantage of falling grain prices last month to lay in a huge supply. The Middle Kingdom imported 820,968 metric tons of corn and corn-based animal feed. Most of it came from the American Midwest.

But somewhere between Decatur and Shanghai, trouble arose. In recent weeks, Chinese inspectors have sent back roughly 600,000 tons of U.S. grain, saying it flunked their quality-control standards. By rejecting such a vast amount of corn, China has roiled the marketplace and shattered trade relations.

China says the problem is genetically modified crops.

China are in it for themselves just like any other sensible Governments should be , what about the 200,20,000 tonnes they accepted I suppose it was not GM produced eh

Originally Posted by Necron99

600,000 tons, that's a lot of fucked frankencorn....

Yeah the Yanks can always turn it into Bio fuel I'm sure the Cars will not object to it being GM produced Eh

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

BTW Harry Pre Mugabe was called Rhodesia and they Import very little food its given to them by The UN food aid and without it upwards of two million would starve to death , first thing Mugabe did was nationalize everything And drive out all of the rich people you appear to despise so much .

You really are a fucking idiot!

Washington Post, 2005.

"Once known as the breadbasket of southern Africa for it bounteous exports of corn and other staples, Zimbabwe has failed to produce enough food for its own population since the often violent land seizures began in 2000."

Under Ian Smith it was known as Rhodesia (the bread basket of Africa) under Mugabe it was known as Zimbabwe ,the rest is history , just WTF are you on about

You really are a moron.

What I'm on about is that you don't need to create mutant crops to have adequate food production. Prior to Mugabe, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe made far more than they needed.

I would have thought that was obvious, and perhaps you were being obtuse, but the truth is that you're just a fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

BTW Harry Pre Mugabe was called Rhodesia and they Import very little food its given to them by The UN food aid and without it upwards of two million would starve to death , first thing Mugabe did was nationalize everything And drive out all of the rich people you appear to despise so much .

You really are a fucking idiot!

Washington Post, 2005.

"Once known as the breadbasket of southern Africa for it bounteous exports of corn and other staples, Zimbabwe has failed to produce enough food for its own population since the often violent land seizures began in 2000."

Under Ian Smith it was known as Rhodesia (the bread basket of Africa) under Mugabe it was known as Zimbabwe ,the rest is history , just WTF are you on about

You really are a moron.

What I'm on about is that you don't need to create mutant crops to have adequate food production. Prior to Mugabe, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe made far more than they needed.

I would have thought that was obvious, and perhaps you were being obtuse, but the truth is that you're just a fucking idiot.

That was only one Country in Africa what about the rest of the World ?, many who have to Import food, and anyway that was over 3 decades ago, there are quite a few more mouths to feed now ,and in another 3 decades the World will have to produce 40% more food to feed itself .any idea's how you are going to do it ?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

in another 3 decades the World will have to produce 40% more food to feed itself .any idea's how you are going to do it ?

Well you could start by farming the 900 million hectares of arable land in Africa, but that would require political stability.

You could also return the land taken for biodiesel and return it to food crops. Seaweed farming can replace it for the production of carbon neutral biofuels.