Thread: World Cup 2014

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

If it's not a flagrant foul you don't give a penalty in the World Cup it's a non foul and play goes on.. Too much at stake, a call like that is a game changer.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Ok a flop then, a rose by any other name..

Thanks for the soccer (do I offend with that terminology?) primer . However, as to what I saw, I'll rephrase in the words of BaitongBoy:

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Sorry, but you boys are dead wrong...The referee did a very good job in the match... The Croation defender was a bloody fool to hang onto the back of the striker and pull him him down...The replay clearly showed him trying to retract his stupid mistake... That striker was turning to volley the ball at the goal and was denied the chance... SIMPLE...(buncha armchair wankers...heh)...

Originally Posted by wjblaney

It didn't look like a dive to me, honestly. First of all the Croatian defender had both hands on the Brazilian's shoulders and looked like he pulled pretty hard. The Brazil guy didn't fall at that exact moment but he definitely lost balance while he was fighting for the ball, it looked like. I'd like to see it again but it certainly didn't look like a flagrant dive nor a flagrant foul. So the call looked about right but didn't deserve the yellow card.

^Cheers for that...Good eye, but easy spot...

Originally Posted by blue

I hate the dutch team
I hate that garish orange kit
i hate that they are chimp heavy
I hate that I was watching a World Cup game in an Amsterdam bar, maybe in the 1980s and they were losing and switched the TV off .,,

we will just have to hope those plastic poms AKA the Aussies will get lucky

So far this year no garish orange, the uniforms are royal blue with orange numbers and socks and look pretty good, not sure who was supposed to be the home team today though? Initially I thought they were Spain because I didn't see their trademark orange and Spain only had a small coat of arms with the Spanish colors and it was confusing.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Well sorry but a striker at that level shouldn't..... Correction wouldn't, be impaired by a simple shirt pulling in order to stop them, especially pull him completely down, the top ones would pull it off first, smelling the goal not the actors they have today.. That was an act for the purposes of a cheap goal, not a foul.. Truth is he couldn't turn on the ball anyway so he took a chance at the dive..

Fair enough...You have your opinion...And I have mine...If you have played the sport for a length of time, you begin to understand and see how that player was clearly interfered with...

It's a matter of balance...When your weight is rising off the ground to turn and strike, it does not take much to interfere and upset the player...As a defender, I know this well...You simply cannot take a chance like that IN THE PENALTY AREA...

He was clearly poised to strike a goal...These players love those chances...He was clearly fouled on an attempt at scoring...Penalty shot...Easy call...

^We can agree to differ...Makes life and sports more interesting...

Hey, not to hijack the thread but did you guys know Beckham is thinking about coming out of retirement and be the first player coach of his new MLS team he's establishing in Miami?

Penalty my arse, and your arguement about how long you have played the name doesn't mean shit if you think that it means you are right.

The expert analysts who all played at a higher level disagree, not heard one say it was a penalty. Therefore by your own logic you have been trumped.

Should have been a yellow for Fred. Nothing less.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Penalty my arse, and your arguement about how long you have played the name doesn't mean shit if you think that it means you are right.

The expert analysts who all played at a higher level disagree, not heard one say it was a penalty. Therefore by your own logic you have been trumped.

Should have been a yellow for Fred. Nothing less.

Ermm who is this directed at? If it's me I agreed with you that it should NOT have been a penalty, in fact I posted that originally and YOU and Harry agreed with me. Baitong and WJ Blaney is who disagreed with us..


Ok, read it a couple more times, I guess you directed it to BB.

Playing at home in South America is worth about a goal per game.

Originally Posted by leemo

Playing at home in South America is worth about a goal per game.

So playing 'at home' means 'on the same continent' then?

What nonsense.

As is the simplistic contention that it's 'worth about a goal a game'.

Ever thought about a career with 'talksport'?

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Oh so I guess I'm not qualified to give my observations because I use American terms? I knew someone would show their arse and try to look down their noses at being American in a predominantly Euro thread.

what we have here is a failure to communicate. This is what I said:

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Thanks for the soccer (do I offend with that terminology?) primer

The thanks was sincere, believe it or not, b/c I haven't played the game. The question was a sarcastic one directed to the thread, not you. And, btw, 'soccer' was my terminology, not yours.

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Fair enough...You have your opinion...And I have mine...If you have played the sport for a length of time, you begin to understand and see how that player was clearly interfered with... It's a matter of balance...When your weight is rising off the ground to turn and strike, it does not take much to interfere and upset the player...As a defender, I know this well...You simply cannot take a chance like that IN THE PENALTY AREA... He was clearly poised to strike a goal...These players love those chances...He was clearly fouled on an attempt at scoring...Penalty shot...Easy call...

Cheers again for taking the high road.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

I still don't think in these games it warrants a game changing penalty kick maybe in league play but not the WC.

WTF? I don't think you can or should change the rules of any sport for a specific event, never mind that it comes only once every 4 years. Also, that penalty kick was exciting. The goalie just missed blocking it. That would have been a game changer as well. So what if and or but.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Penalty my arse, and your arguement about how long you have played the name doesn't mean shit if you think that it means you are right. The expert analysts who all played at a higher level disagree, not heard one say it was a penalty. Therefore by your own logic you have been trumped. Should have been a yellow for Fred. Nothing less.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Ermm who is this directed at? If it's me I agreed with you that it should NOT have been a penalty, in fact I posted that originally and YOU and Harry agreed with me. Baitong and WJ Blaney is who disagreed with us..

FB, I was going to say that but you beat me to it. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Penalty my arse, and your arguement about how long you have played the name doesn't mean shit if you think that it means you are right. The expert analysts who all played at a higher level disagree, not heard one say it was a penalty. Therefore by your own logic you have been trumped.

Read it a couple of more times.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Netherlands handling Spain 5-1 with about 10 minutes left with injury time.. Quite a surprise.. Didn't see goal #'s 1-2 for Netherlands but 3 and 4 were definitely goalie errors, #5 was nice run up the center strictly out paced the defender.. So far goal tending leaving a lot to be desired in this cup..

You missed a brilliant first goal from van Persie just before half-time and a quick one from Robben, just after the break, that changed the game. Spain looked good in the first half but lacked anything on their right. The Dutch pounced on that in the second half and it could easily have been 8-1.

First goal could end up as the goal of the tournament....

Originally Posted by blue

I hate the dutch team I hate that garish orange kit

They played in BLUE ....just for YOU....

It was actually quite funny watching Spain's bubble being burst. Their game relies on quick, incisive passing, and they simply could not do it in those conditions, plus some of their key players have lost some pace.

Holland simply picked them apart, and it was a fair if drastically unexpected result.

Mexico should have won 3-0 - yet more dubious officiating.

I have yet to see Chile vs the Convicts because England appear to be doing the sheepshaggers at the egg chasing, but it could be a false dawn of course.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I have yet to see Chile vs the Convicts

Convicts looked outclassed in the brief highlights I saw. A lot of better teams lost out going to the WC to allow these no-hopers 3 games of shame....

Actually it was a better game than I thought, the Aussies were no pushovers, but overall Chile deserved the win.

My prediction of Spain winning the cup now look fcked . Cmon Belgium!!

Good to see Spain get spanked. Hope to see Brazil get spanked soon too.

Tonight, 3-1 to Italy. We will not make it out of the group.

World Cup 2014 coaches and managers - Telegraph

Good article about the managers .
Of course England FA being mugs have 2nd highest paid £3.5 mill
( Russia top with £6.6 for that useless Fabio Capello )

Concerning
tonight's clash
just a glance at the managers and it's not looking good for England.
Hodgson looks the wrong guy for the job of managing the uptight England players; not relaxed enough himself and he doesn't even look that bright ,,,,


meanwhile Italian coach looks the part ...
it's gonna be a long night / early bastard morning for the last few remaining English fans .

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Good to see Spain get spanked. Hope to see Brazil get spanked soon too.

Tonight, 3-1 to Italy. We will not make it out of the group.

That's a sad comment. But real.

Originally Posted by Troy

You missed a brilliant first goal from van Persie just before half-time and a quick one from Robben, just after the break, that changed the game. Spain looked good in the first half but lacked anything on their right. The Dutch pounced on that in the second half and it could easily have been 8-1.

First goal could end up as the goal of the tournament....

Thanks for rubbing it in, I did see it last night on the days highlights though, it was a brilliant goal..